2017 Season - National Perspective

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firstplaceloser

As of right now, what are the top 5 conferences this year?

Mid-Atlantic Fan

Weekend Games to Watch

Saturday
#2 Chicago @ Rochester
Muhles @ #4 Hopkins
#5 Tufts @ #21 Amherst
Alvernia @ #7 Messiah
#8 Cortland St @ Plattsburgh St
#13 St. Thomas @ Macalester
#14 Fords @ Gettysburg
Brockport St @ #15 Oneonta St
#17 Wash U @ Emory
#19 Springfield @ Clark
#20 CT Coll @ Williams
#22 Drew @ Moravian
Denison @ #24 Kenyon
Fredonia St @ Buffalo St
Eastern @ Manhattanville
Rose-Hulman @ Transylvania
Thomas More @ Grove City
Otterbein @ Capital
Scranton @ Etown
Wooster @ OWU

Sunday
#3 Newark @ #21 Amherst
#23 Brandeis @ Case Western


In bold are the must see games of the weekend in my opinion!! Great weekend of soccer ahead as conference play starts to kick into full gear.

bestfancle

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Quote from: firstplaceloser on September 28, 2017, 10:15:31 PM
As of right now, what are the top 5 conferences this year?

If I had to give it a crack, and I may be way off...

1. UAA
2. NJAC
3a. NESCAC
3b. CC
5. MACC

Just missed OAC and ODAC

NESCAC11

Quote from: bestfancle on September 29, 2017, 12:58:30 PM
Quote from: firstplaceloser on September 28, 2017, 10:15:31 PM
As of right now, what are the top 5 conferences this year?

If I had to give it a crack, and I may be way off...

1. UAA
2. NJAC
3a. NESCAC
3b. CC
5. MACC

Just missed OAC and ODAC

Yes, with the understanding that the eventual National Champion will probably come from the NESCAC.

TwoLeftFeet

Quote from: firstplaceloser on September 28, 2017, 10:15:31 PM
As of right now, what are the top 5 conferences this year?

For what it is worth, I suppose now is as good a time as any to look at the Massey conference ratings, given most of the games to date are inter-conference:

1. UAA
2. NESCAC
3. SUNY
4. NJAC
5. Cent.
6. OAC
7. LL
8. NEWMAC
9. MAC-C
10. Landmk

I find it odd that NESCAC has the highest win rate (0.883) and the highest SoS rating (1.8), yet places second to the UAA (Win 0.785 / SoS  1.15 ).  Is it because he is weighting individual results based on the opponent's ranking, and perhaps the UAA has higher quality wins, despite overall having a lesser track record in both wins and SoS?  Full rankings are here: https://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=csoc2017&sub=11620&c=1

paclassic89

For comparison's sake, here are the top 10 conferences according to Bennett Rankings

1. UAA
2. NESCAC
3. Liberty
4. Ohio Athletic
5. Centennial
6. SUNYAC
7. CCIW
8. Northwest
9. WIAC
10. Landmark

4samuy

Quote from: NESCAC11 on September 29, 2017, 01:53:39 PM
Quote from: bestfancle on September 29, 2017, 12:58:30 PM
Quote from: firstplaceloser on September 28, 2017, 10:15:31 PM
As of right now, what are the top 5 conferences this year?

If I had to give it a crack, and I may be way off...

1. UAA
2. NJAC
3a. NESCAC
3b. CC
5. MACC

Just missed OAC and ODAC

Yes, with the understanding that the eventual National Champion will probably come from the NESCAC.

The National Champion will not come from the NESCAC.  NESCAC vs the field?  Count me in.

Ommadawn

Quote from: paclassic89 on September 29, 2017, 03:49:51 PM
For comparison's sake, here are the top 10 conferences according to Bennett Rankings

1. UAA
2. NESCAC
3. Liberty
4. Ohio Athletic
5. Centennial
6. SUNYAC
7. CCIW
8. Northwest
9. WIAC
10. Landmark

I'm a fan of both the Liberty League and the Bennett Rankings, but the algorithm seems to be a little off so far this season.  I think the LL is "down" this year and would put it somewhere closer to 10 than 1 (like the Massey Ratings do) and would move the NJAC into the top 5 (as Massey also does!). 

firstplaceloser

Quote from: paclassic89 on September 29, 2017, 03:49:51 PM
For comparison's sake, here are the top 10 conferences according to Bennett Rankings

1. UAA
2. NESCAC
3. Liberty
4. Ohio Athletic
5. Centennial
6. SUNYAC
7. CCIW
8. Northwest
9. WIAC
10. Landmark

There is NO way that the NJAC is not a ten 10 conference lol

4samuy

Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on September 29, 2017, 08:14:47 AM
Weekend Games to Watch

Saturday
#2 Chicago @ Rochester
Muhles @ #4 Hopkins
#5 Tufts @ #21 Amherst
Alvernia @ #7 Messiah
#8 Cortland St @ Plattsburgh St
#13 St. Thomas @ Macalester
#14 Fords @ Gettysburg
Brockport St @ #15 Oneonta St
#17 Wash U @ Emory
#19 Springfield @ Clark
#20 CT Coll @ Williams
#22 Drew @ Moravian
Denison @ #24 Kenyon
Fredonia St @ Buffalo St
Eastern @ Manhattanville
Rose-Hulman @ Transylvania
Thomas More @ Grove City
Otterbein @ Capital
Scranton @ Etown
Wooster @ OWU

Sunday
#3 Newark @ #21 Amherst
#23 Brandeis @ Case Western


In bold are the must see games of the weekend in my opinion!! Great weekend of soccer ahead as conference play starts to kick into full gear.


At half

Chicago  4
Rochester 0

Mr.Right

Quote from: 4samuy on September 29, 2017, 04:03:33 PM
Quote from: NESCAC11 on September 29, 2017, 01:53:39 PM
Quote from: bestfancle on September 29, 2017, 12:58:30 PM
Quote from: firstplaceloser on September 28, 2017, 10:15:31 PM
As of right now, what are the top 5 conferences this year?

If I had to give it a crack, and I may be way off...

1. UAA
2. NJAC
3a. NESCAC
3b. CC
5. MACC

Just missed OAC and ODAC

Yes, with the understanding that the eventual National Champion will probably come from the NESCAC.

The National Champion will not come from the NESCAC.  NESCAC vs the field?  Count me in.


Im down also on that bet...Not this year..Nescac is down

Mr.Right

Quote from: 4samuy on September 30, 2017, 11:54:00 AM
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on September 29, 2017, 08:14:47 AM
Weekend Games to Watch

Saturday
#2 Chicago @ Rochester
Muhles @ #4 Hopkins
#5 Tufts @ #21 Amherst
Alvernia @ #7 Messiah
#8 Cortland St @ Plattsburgh St
#13 St. Thomas @ Macalester
#14 Fords @ Gettysburg
Brockport St @ #15 Oneonta St
#17 Wash U @ Emory
#19 Springfield @ Clark
#20 CT Coll @ Williams
#22 Drew @ Moravian
Denison @ #24 Kenyon
Fredonia St @ Buffalo St
Eastern @ Manhattanville
Rose-Hulman @ Transylvania
Thomas More @ Grove City
Otterbein @ Capital
Scranton @ Etown
Wooster @ OWU

Sunday
#3 Newark @ #21 Amherst
#23 Brandeis @ Case Western


In bold are the must see games of the weekend in my opinion!! Great weekend of soccer ahead as conference play starts to kick into full gear.


At half

Chicago  4
Rochester 0


Wow...Is UR that bad or Chicago that good or both?

4samuy

Not sure. There is a technical error with the feed so haven't seen any of the play.

Falconer

Hopkins manages to score in the 2 OT on a very nice combination to get a wide open shot, thus beating the Muhls 1-0. I didn't see all of this one, walking away several times to get some chores done, so my opinion isn't worth much. Also, there was a strong wind that made scoring tougher on one end of the field. With those qualifications stated, Hopkins really didn't look as good as their ranking. This year Muhlenberg isn't a very good team, and they were able consistently to frustrate Hopkins while still being dangerous once in a while. In the latter part of the first half, both teams were playing a lot kickball.

On a different day, I imagine Hopkins would have looked quite a bit better. Definitely not impressive today.

PaulNewman

Falconer, come on now. Hopkins might have looked much better if they weren't playing a tippy top D1 outfit like Muhlenberg.  ;)