Mid-Atlantic Region

[Shooter McGavin]

Shooter... Just looking at the Massey data and their SoS rankings, I don't really think you can make a case that F&M has a stronger SoS than Hop. Unless I'm missing something.

Same thing with Drew vs. Catholic.

And I'm not trying to be snarky, but saying "if you take away X result" is kind of disqualifying in terms of analyzing or ranking these teams. Again, unless I'm misunderstanding your thinking. H2H is a pretty big indicator of how teams stack up and losing 4-0 AT HOME sure says something, at least to my eyes.

Not taken as snarky    Those notes of mine were more so observations of the "what if" factors. My guess at SOS may be off  but from eyeball test I thought F&M would be higher than Hopkins. Normally they are similar.

[Hopkins92]

Should we dismiss Rowan losing 0-6 to New Jersey City?

I mean, I have problem with a team losing 5 games, let alone one of them by 6 goals.

[paclassic89]

They also beat Lycoming 2-0.  These rankings are based on the win % and SOS primarily so individual results are irrelevant.  Once RvR is added, then those results will come into play and move teams up or down

[Hopkins92]

Shooter... Just looking at the Massey data and their SoS rankings, I don't really think you can make a case that F&M has a stronger SoS than Hop. Unless I'm missing something.

Same thing with Drew vs. Catholic.

And I'm not trying to be snarky, but saying "if you take away X result" is kind of disqualifying in terms of analyzing or ranking these teams. Again, unless I'm misunderstanding your thinking. H2H is a pretty big indicator of how teams stack up and losing 4-0 AT HOME sure says something, at least to my eyes.

Not taken as snarky    Those notes of mine were more so observations of the "what if" factors. My guess at SOS may be off  but from eyeball test I thought F&M would be higher than Hopkins. Normally they are similar.

Gotcha gotcha gotcha.

And just on the eyeball test (and having spent tooling around on Massey today):

Hopkins played (and got a result against) Rowan, Lycoming(T), Mary Washington and SUNY Cortland before entering CC play. They also beat Stevenson, Goucher and Salisbury, none of which really do a heck of a lot for the SoS.

F&M had Leb Valley, Stevens(L), Kean, E-town PSU-Harrisburg, William-Patterson, Rosemont and Lancaster Bible.

[camosfan]

Very busy day about to start
EPL: Lpool v West Ham 2:30

NESCAC at 3 pm, big one at 3:30
NJAC  at  3:00pm
Then a ton of games at 4 & 7  pm
Good luck watching on multiple devices! 

[Flying Weasel]

Doing the "eye-test" on strength of schedule when interested in the NCAA rankings and selections is a very tough to do.  The calculations regularly are at odds with our subjective sense of who's a tough opponent and who is not.  For example, a 10-2-2 team who tops a weak conference and plays a week non-conference schedule can still help your SoS much more than a 8-3-3 team from a good conference who played a competitive non-conference slate.  For example, last year (not this year), playing Rosemont would not have hurt your SoS while coming with minimal risk of a loss. Rosemont's contribution to your SoS would have been .629.

[Flying Weasel]

It seems like the men's Regional Rankings have been posted (https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-men/d3/regional-rankings) but they have no W-L-T records included.

NOTE:  these are in alphabetical order, not ranked order.

Region IV   
Lancaster Bible
Lycoming
Misericordia
Montclair St.
NYU
Rowan
Stevens

Region V
Catholic
Drew
Elizabethtown
Franklin & Marshall
Gettysburg
John Hopkins
Messiah

[paclassic89]

Well, I got Region V right.  Region IV, Lancaster Bible slipped in there instead of Stockton. 

[thesoccerguy17]

First half notes for messiah game.... Another goal for Matt McDonald what a shocker (I believe that's 15 games straight now tying Nick Wests record from 2018). But just as impressively, messiahs second team scores two rockets from outside the box. So many scoring options it's just more impressive every week

[Hopkins Walk-On]

Interesting that Lancaster Bible and F&M are in different regions although they are in the same city.

[Falconer]

First half notes for messiah game.... Another goal for Matt McDonald what a shocker (I believe that's 15 games straight now tying Nick Wests record from 2018). But just as impressively, messiahs second team scores two rockets from outside the box. So many scoring options it's just more impressive every week

Yes, he has 15 goals in 15 games, but he had at least one brace and one goalless game.

[Falconer]

First half notes for messiah game.... Another goal for Matt McDonald what a shocker (I believe that's 15 games straight now tying Nick Wests record from 2018). But just as impressively, messiahs second team scores two rockets from outside the box. So many scoring options it's just more impressive every week

Yes, he has 15 goals in 15 games, but he had at least one brace and one goalless game.

And--he just scored again to open the second half at Hood. Another brace, so far.

[thesoccerguy17]

First half notes for messiah game.... Another goal for Matt McDonald what a shocker (I believe that's 15 games straight now tying Nick Wests record from 2018). But just as impressively, messiahs second team scores two rockets from outside the box. So many scoring options it's just more impressive every week

Yes, he has 15 goals in 15 games, but he had at least one brace and one goalless game.

Bummer I was trying to keep pretty close track I must've somehow missed a game that he didn't score. Still been a brilliant player this season

[Falconer]

First half notes for messiah game.... Another goal for Matt McDonald what a shocker (I believe that's 15 games straight now tying Nick Wests record from 2018). But just as impressively, messiahs second team scores two rockets from outside the box. So many scoring options it's just more impressive every week

Yes, he has 15 goals in 15 games, but he had at least one brace and one goalless game.

Bummer I was trying to keep pretty close track I must've somehow missed a game that he didn't score. Still been a brilliant player this season

He has 3 braces (W&L, Moravian, and Hood) and two scoreless games (Etown and Stevenson), for a total of 16 goals in 15 games.

[Flying Weasel]

Interesting that Lancaster Bible and F&M are in different regions although they are in the same city.

As you probably know (but maybe not), the NCAA has kept conferences together in the same region except for a few exceptions where the geographical diversity is too much for it to make sense (e.g. UAA and Coast-2-Coast, currently). With last year's move to a 10-region alignment, the old Mid-Atlantic region got split between the new Regions IV and V and we have a bit of geographical overlap as also exists between Regions I and II that used to be together as the New England region. But we had some of that under the 8-region set-up also. 

However, it is interesting to think about cross-town schools being in different regions. The closest schools that are in different regions are Connecticut College (NESCAC, Reg. I) and the Coast Guard Academy (NEWMAC, Reg. II) whose campuses touch in New London, CT with Mitchell College (NECC, Reg. II) also in New London a few miles away.  Next would probably be Alfred University (Empire 8, Reg. III) and Alfred State College (AMCC, Reg. VII) whose campuses are separated by mere blocks (< 1/2 mi.) in Alfred, NY.  That's a carry-over from the previous alignment when they were in the East and Great Lakes regions.  Drew (Landmark, Reg. V) and FDU-Florham (MAC Freedom, Reg. IV) are under a mile apart, both with Madison, NJ mailing addresses.  F&M (Centennial, Reg. V) and Lancaster Bible (UEC, Reg. IV) are almost 3 miles aparts in Lancaster, PA as are Catholic (Landmark, Reg. V) and Gallaudet (UEC, Reg. IV) in Washington, D.C.  The later two were both in the South Atlantic region before conference moves brought each of them to the Mid-Atlantic a few years apart over a decade ago.  Albright, Alvernia, and PSU-Berks are each 5-miles apart with Reading, PA mailing addresses (PSU-Berks is outside city limits). Boston has two schools in Region I and three schools in Region II.  Manhattan has six and Brooklyn four schools from four different conferences (CUNYAC, Skyline, UAA, Coast-2-Coast) which are divided between Regions III and IV.