Mid-Atlantic Region

[Hopkins92]

Gotta root for Goucher for maximum Landmark chaos.  It doesn't take much for me to root against Etown anyway lol

Whats the deal with the cut of the field?  Intentional?

I spent my evening watching the Catholic-Scranton game.  Catholic demonstrated why I think they are unimaginative, lacking in creativity, and soccer challenged.  All it takes to beat them is an organized and disciplined team... like Scranton tonight.

SC.

Somebody needs to check with the Etown grounds crew! I think they set the blade on the zamboni too low and took a few passes on the field?!?! They should head down to Grantham and get some tips from the Messiah grounds crew cuz obviously they've managed to make Shoemaker field hold up north of the Mason-Dixon with all the soccer being played between McCarty's and Frey's teams

I'm pulling for Goucher on this one

Please pop in more often, Mr. Franklin.

[NEPAFAN]

Reposting congrats to the Royals for knocking off the Catholic Cardinals. Royal keeper had a great save on a one v one in the late first half.

I go back on forth on the Head Coach, but a good win on the road.

[Mid-Atlantic Fan]

Gotta root for Goucher for maximum Landmark chaos.  It doesn't take much for me to root against Etown anyway lol

Whats the deal with the cut of the field?  Intentional?

I spent my evening watching the Catholic-Scranton game.  Catholic demonstrated why I think they are unimaginative, lacking in creativity, and soccer challenged.  All it takes to beat them is an organized and disciplined team... like Scranton tonight.

SC.

SC--I could not agree more. Catholic looked average. I watched them earlier in the year and have the same sentiment as you. I think they are on the wrong side of the bubble come Pool C selection time.

[Ejay]

Disappointing fan turnout for E-town, isn't it?   The Goucher fans are bringing it!  Very odd with the grass cut the way it is.

Something weird was going on. It was, like, 20 Goucher fans? Maybe? But the acoustics picked them up a LOT. The Etown folks outnumbered them by a lot Gopher fans were into it and very vocal.

I watched pretty much the entire thing and I really enjoyed the atmosphere. Hoping a few Etown fans on this board attended and can give some more color.

Goucher had a fair amount of support - it's not often they make the playoffs so this was a big deal and they travelled well.  Etown had a decent crowd too. They were largely on either end of the field while Goucher was directly at MF.

The field isn't as bad as it looks on tv. They've had some drainage issues the past few years. So while it's certainly not Messiah or LVC quality, it's not Muhlenberg either. 

Etown keeper is quality. Stopped 3 PKs and commanded his box well during the game.  They'll be as successful as he allows them to be since they're lacking in the offensive third.

Scranton rematch should be a good game.  Could go either way, but figure the grass will help Etown just as it did against Drew.

Had Catholic won, I thought they'd get a Pool C regardless of Championship game outcome.  This loss however is devastating.  I think they're watching next weekend instead of playing.

[Shooter McGavin]

Spicy game up in E-town... Goucher holding their own. I've mentioned before, but this is easily the best season for the Gophers since 2014 (and it's objectively better than that one).

They are 9-4-4... This is a program that is routinely sub-500. Kind of pulling for them to pull the upset here.

Man, there are no announcers but the atmosphere for this game is great. Animated coaches/benches, but nothing obnoxious going on. Just passion.

BTW, in a remarkable feat of synchronicity, the two games on tap in the Landmark kicked off 10 seconds apart.

The Blue Jay field is objectively nice, but the actual playing surface is... kind of gross? I've said it many time, it's REALLY hard to keep a grass field anywhere above the Mason-Dixon line into November. Almost impossible, really.

Wow... BEAUTIFUL save from the G goalie... parried a rocket that was headed to the upper far corner. Mark down that moment.

This ref loves calling advantage... Too much. It's worked negatively for both teams, but it's just annoying.

Goucher has 5 goalies. That seems... excessive.

I'm not sure if it's just the positioning of the mic, but... E-town seems really flat on the sideline. They are playing OK, but Goucher just seems to be more energized. Obviously an extremely subjective take.

Honestly, just listening to both coaches/benches is almost more interesting than having announcers. You get a very good sense of what they're up to tactically.

Ok, I want to reset a little... E'town has had the MUCH more dangerous chances in the first half. Lots of nice plays to open up Goucher and they've come close to scoring at least 4 times this half. Don't want the energy of Goucher to be overplayed. Blue Jays are more clinical going forward.

Half-time 0-0

This is a very entertaining game.

Love the play by play summary +K 

[Shooter McGavin]

I flip flopped Lyco and Rowan. I had the RvR wrong and it makes sense that Rowan is ahead with H2H and 3 ranked wins. I am unsure how I missed Rowan getting to 3 wins in the RvR category. I'm actually still uncertain, as I still get 1-3-1 when looking at the last rankings. Can someone help me out here-what am I missing?

I think you have caught a mistake in the NCAA's data sheets (which begs the question about how many other errors there might be).

Rowan versus Week 2 ranked teams:
Wins (1):  Lycoming
Losses (3): Johns Hopkins, Cortland State, Montclair State
Ties (1): Trinity (Texas)

Rowan may still have been ranked ahead on the basis of head-to-head as everything else would seem rather even, but given Lycoming was ahead last week it's hard to see what would have changed the order for this week.

Christan-what happens now? Will the NCAA acknowledge the error? Does it get fixed? What kind of impact does this have? That's a HUGE error IMO 

[SimpleCoach]

Gotta root for Goucher for maximum Landmark chaos.  It doesn't take much for me to root against Etown anyway lol

Whats the deal with the cut of the field?  Intentional?

I spent my evening watching the Catholic-Scranton game.  Catholic demonstrated why I think they are unimaginative, lacking in creativity, and soccer challenged.  All it takes to beat them is an organized and disciplined team... like Scranton tonight.

SC.

SC--I could not agree more. Catholic looked average. I watched them earlier in the year and have the same sentiment as you. I think they are on the wrong side of the bubble come Pool C selection time.

They have one player who I think is very talented.  #7, Darius Siapoosh.  They outside mid, #5 Liam Giblin, is ok.  The rest of them are hammers.  They can compete when they have to, but win because I don't think they face anyone.

SC.

[Christan Shirk]

I flip flopped Lyco and Rowan. I had the RvR wrong and it makes sense that Rowan is ahead with H2H and 3 ranked wins. I am unsure how I missed Rowan getting to 3 wins in the RvR category. I'm actually still uncertain, as I still get 1-3-1 when looking at the last rankings. Can someone help me out here-what am I missing?

I think you have caught a mistake in the NCAA's data sheets (which begs the question about how many other errors there might be).

Rowan versus Week 2 ranked teams:
Wins (1):  Lycoming
Losses (3): Johns Hopkins, Cortland State, Montclair State
Ties (1): Trinity (Texas)

Rowan may still have been ranked ahead on the basis of head-to-head as everything else would seem rather even, but given Lycoming was ahead last week it's hard to see what would have changed the order for this week.

Christan-what happens now? Will the NCAA acknowledge the error? Does it get fixed? What kind of impact does this have? That's a HUGE error IMO 

I will be contacting the NCAA shortly.  I have figured out the error as it is not only Rowan who has an incorrect RvR.  Now I want to confirm if the same error is occurring for women.  The RvR on this week's data sheets is being based on who was ranked last week (10/26) and this week (11/2).  So teams who played opponents who newly entered the rankings this week, had those results included in the RvR shown on the data sheets. 

Of course, it's impossible for the committees to have been looking at data based on decisions/rankings they hadn't completed yet.  So I do not think the rankings were done looking at the data the NCAA released to the public with the incorrect RvR.  In other words, I doubt that teams were incorrectly ranked because of incorrect data being reviewed/considered by the committees.  I think the data sheets released to the public this week were incorrectly re-generated after the rankings were finalized.

As we understand from communication with NCAA committee members in years past, the RvR works as posted on our website:

"Results versus ranked teams" criteria spelled out

For the . . .

first weekly rankings:  N/A (no previous rankings)

second weekly rankings:  results versus teams ranked in the first weekly rankings

third weekly ranking:  results versus teams ranked in the second weekly rankings

final rankings:  results versus teams ranked in the third weekly rankings

at-large selections:  results versus teams ranked in either the third weekly rankings or the final rankings

Based on that understanding which the data has confirmed to be correct in past years, it is an error to base RvR on two week's rankings except when developing the data to be considered when comparing team across regions in the at-large selection process.  And the week to base the RvR on for the four weekly rankings is the previous week.

[Hopkins92]

Gotta root for Goucher for maximum Landmark chaos.  It doesn't take much for me to root against Etown anyway lol

Whats the deal with the cut of the field?  Intentional?

I spent my evening watching the Catholic-Scranton game.  Catholic demonstrated why I think they are unimaginative, lacking in creativity, and soccer challenged.  All it takes to beat them is an organized and disciplined team... like Scranton tonight.

SC.

SC--I could not agree more. Catholic looked average. I watched them earlier in the year and have the same sentiment as you. I think they are on the wrong side of the bubble come Pool C selection time.

They have one player who I think is very talented.  #7, Darius Siapoosh.  They outside mid, #5 Liam Giblin, is ok.  The rest of them are hammers.  They can compete when they have to, but win because I don't think they face anyone.

SC.

Which makes the away win at Drew so strange. I mean, anything can happen on any given day, but 4-1 is a pretty bad one off.

[camosfan]

Just want to say Amer Lukovic is special, may be the best striker currently in D3, the guy is scoring goals from very acute angles and is good in the air.

[Pilsner]

Tough loss for Catholic- I agree but I'd take that game with the 18 shots all day long. Simple case of just lousy finishing - just one of those games. Very similar game to the other Landmark lopsided wins without the goals.  I thought CUA was threatening for 3/4 of the game but that is why you play them. Doubt if any Scranton fan / coach / parent didn't think they got out of DC with a stolen win. 

[Ejay]

Let's not forget that Catholic beat Scranton 1-0 on a PK and Etown 1-0 on a PK. Both those games could have easily been 0-1 losses.  I agree with SC that #7 Siapoosh is a very good player, but aside from him I didn't see anyone you feared, nor were they strong enough as a unit that you could say the whole was greater than the sum of their parts. They're a good team, but not appreciably better than Etown, Scranton or Drew (just one of those games, right?). 

[Pilsner]

CUA vs Scranton reg season game much closer- fairly even.   Etown game 17-5 in shots favoring CUA.   It is in Catholic's interest to have all Landmark games count towards ranking and boost a good reg. season run.  It is just going to take some time to get this sour grapes taste out of my mouth.  Good luck to Scranton against Etown and that field- 

[Hopkins92]

Heading towards kick-off at Shoemaker: https://gomacsports.tv/messiahfalcons/

[SimpleCoach]

Tough loss for Catholic- I agree but I'd take that game with the 18 shots all day long. Simple case of just lousy finishing - just one of those games. Very similar game to the other Landmark lopsided wins without the goals.  I thought CUA was threatening for 3/4 of the game but that is why you play them. Doubt if any Scranton fan / coach / parent didn't think they got out of DC with a stolen win.

Here is the thing.  Not so sure about the lousy finishing.  Scranton Keeper made 3 saves on those 18 shots.  And I counted two shots in the second half, one by #7, then the hammer on the left wing that most definitely would go into the lousy finishing column.  So not sure that the 18 shots were legit.  Can easily count 5 that were so far from being an actual goal, that calling them shots was generous.

SC.