2017 South Atlantic

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lastguyoffthebench

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            WP%    Rank   SOS        Rank   RvR       
MSU..........0.882.......1......0.56.........6......2-1-1
UMW.........0.833.......4......0.578........4......1-1-0
Rowan.......0.688......10....0.606........2......2-3-0
RUC..........0.722.......9......0.584........3......1-3-0
Emory.......0.633.......11....0.619........1......3-4-0
Salisbury...0.800........6......0.558........7......1-0-0
W&L.........0.750........8......0.577........5......1-2-0
Ogelthorpe.0.846.......3......0.541........8......1-1-0
                     
St. Mary.....0.781.......7......0.532........9......1-2-0      
Ramapo.....0.824.......5......0.518........11.....2-1-1
Lynchburg..0.857.......2......0.522........10.....1-0-2

WP% Rank and SOS Rank were just among the teams listed...

If Lynchburg was not in the initial rankings and split results this week, I am not sure they will crack the rankings, but who knows.   Ramapo is also legit, but the SOS is not there.   Oglethorpe beats Emory but falls to W&L (they have a lack of RvR, but will h2h hold an advantage).  I really think Lynchburg is deserving of a ranking.

#7 York will fall out with 2 losses during the week. 

Emory beat both Rowan and RUC, so even though the WP% is low, the SOS is just outrageous.    Would not have a problem if they were somehow ranked #3.   

Ejay

Salisbury getting the shaft.  I think they've got a nice team this year.

Mr.Right

I would have a problem if Emory is ranked 3rd and are 0-4-0 in the UAA even with a high SOS. At some point the committee MUST look at what a team is doing in conference and that should outweigh a high SOS..Emory is a prime example

lastguyoffthebench

Quote from: EB2319 on October 22, 2018, 02:27:30 PM
Salisbury getting the shaft.  I think they've got a nice team this year.

The Gulls could be higher and also would not shock me to see them ahead of Emory...

Ejay

Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on October 22, 2018, 06:10:18 PM
Quote from: EB2319 on October 22, 2018, 02:27:30 PM
Salisbury getting the shaft.  I think they've got a nice team this year.

The Gulls could be higher and also would not shock me to see them ahead of Emory...

And RUC, who is 12-4-2 and Rowan at 11-5.

lastguyoffthebench

Salisbury only 1 game vs a regionally ranked opponent.  If St. Mary's squeeze in, that hurts the Gulls... also SOS drops from .558 to .550 after playing 6-7 CNU and 0-14 Southern Virginia






lastguyoffthebench

NCAA SOS First Release
Rutgers-Newark.............0.630
Emory...........................0.619
Rowan..........................0.606
Rutgers-Camden............0.584
CNU.............................0.581
VWU............................0.580
MWU...........................0.578
Wash&Lee....................0.577
Stockton......................0.575
York............................0.567
William Paterson...........0.565
Montclair St..................0.560
Randolph-Macon...........0.560
Salisbury......................0.558
NCW............................0.549
NJCU...........................0.544
TCNJ...........................0.544
Centre.........................0.541
Oglethorpe...................0.541
Millsaps.......................0.537
Frostburg St.................0.536
Averett........................0.534
St. Marys.....................0.532
Southern Va.................0.531
Randolph.....................0.530
Brevard.......................0.528
Rhodes.......................0.524
Lynchburg...................0.522
Ramapo......................0.518
Sewanee.....................0.517
Kean..........................0.512
Covenant....................0.510
EMU...........................0.510
BirminghamSo.............0.506
Emory & Henry.............0.501
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Berry...........................0.499
Piedmont.....................0.498
Hampden-Sydney..........0.493
Roanoke.......................0.492
Bridgewater...................0.482
Greensboro....................0.472
Berea............................0.471
Guilford.........................0.470
Shenandoah...................0.458
Pfeiffer...........................0.453
Ferrum...........................0.451
Huntingdon.....................0.447
Maryville........................0.445
Hendrix..........................0.443
William Peace.................0.433
Methodist.......................0.430
LaGrange.......................0.425
PSU-Harrisburg...............0.419

I will update with columns after each release.

Ejay

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Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on October 22, 2018, 10:45:10 PM
Salisbury only 1 game vs a regionally ranked opponent.  If St. Mary's squeeze in, that hurts the Gulls... also SOS drops from .558 to .550 after playing 6-7 CNU and 0-14 Southern Virginia

To my point in a different thread, I don't weight SOS as much.  If I had the luxury of choosing an opponent, I would rather play RUC over Salisbury.  IMO, Salisbury is a better team regardless of SOS. 

lastguyoffthebench

#68
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on October 22, 2018, 10:45:10 PM
Salisbury only 1 game vs a regionally ranked opponent.  If St. Mary's squeeze in, that hurts the Gulls... also SOS drops from .558 to .550 after playing 6-7 CNU and 0-14 Southern Virginia

-Oglethorpe SOS jumps from .541 to .564 and the W over Emory catapults them to #3 in the region. 1-1 or 1-2 RvR
-St. Mary's enters in the polls.  Nearly identical record, slightly higher SOS than Salisbury to go along with the H2H win.
-WPU also enters for the first time with 3-4 RvR and an SOS of .570
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-Salisbury falls out despite a 2-0 week, SOS dropped from .558 to .539
-Wash&Lee falls out despite a 3-0 week, SOS dropped from .577 to .562
-Lynchburg SOS dropped from .522 to .509
-Ramapo SOS increased from .518 to .535.... will continue to climb with NJAC post-season. 


Christan Shirk

SOUTH ATLANTIC REGION - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - October 24, 2018

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Montclair State
14-1-2
0.555
2-1-1
14-1-2
1
2.
Mary Washington
11-1-3
0.587
1-1-1
11-1-3
2
3.
Oglethorpe
10-2-0
0.564
1-2-0
11-2-0
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4.
Rowan
11-5-0
0.617
2-3-0
11-5-0
4
5.
Emory
9-5-1
0.625
3-3-0
9-5-1
5
6.
Rutgers-Camden
12-4-2
0.597
1-3-0
12-4-2
3
7.
St. Mary's (Md.)
10-2-3
0.555
2-2-0
11-2-3
--
8.
William Paterson
11-5-1
0.570
3-4-0
11-5-1
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Christan Shirk
Special Consultant and Advisor
D3soccer.com

Ejay

Ramapo 3 WPU 2. Fala with two more, including the game winner in OT.  That gives him 23 on the year and Ramapo a second place finish in the NJAC.  Congrats to the Roadrunners.

willchar

Ramapo getting the #2 seed has to be their best regular season outcome ever. Good for them. Looking forward to R-C visiting Ramapo in 2nd roind on Tuesay - if they get by Willy P.  Rowan is a big disappointment.  They're strategy, of thinking that leading the conference in fouls and yellow cards will lead to good results, needs to be reconsidered.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Mr.Right on October 22, 2018, 02:27:59 PM
I would have a problem if Emory is ranked 3rd and are 0-4-0 in the UAA even with a high SOS. At some point the committee MUST look at what a team is doing in conference and that should outweigh a high SOS..Emory is a prime example

Conference winning percentage is neither a primary criterion nor a secondary criterion according to the NCAA handbook, so it won't be looked at.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Mr.Right

Quote from: Gregory Sager on October 25, 2018, 12:57:34 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 22, 2018, 02:27:59 PM
I would have a problem if Emory is ranked 3rd and are 0-4-0 in the UAA even with a high SOS. At some point the committee MUST look at what a team is doing in conference and that should outweigh a high SOS..Emory is a prime example

Conference winning percentage is neither a primary criterion nor a secondary criterion according to the NCAA handbook, so it won't be looked at.


I understand that BUT IT SHOULD BE a factor...Say Emory finishes 1-6-1 in the UAA and then gets rewarded with a Pool C because of a decent Winning % and +.600 SOS...I am just saying I WOULD have a problem with that but hey if the committee wants to reward them with a Pool C then it is what it is.

Gregory Sager

It's not really up to the committee, either. They're confined to using the criteria that are listed in the handbook, and thus they don't have the option of drawing outside the lines. Your beef is with the D3 membership at large, which is what put the primary and secondary criteria in the handbook in the first place.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell