Shenandoah, TX 2018-19 NCAA d3fb championships

[joelmama]

Maybe, most D3fb fans are more interested in the actual game and might check out the HOF and everything that Canton offers.  There's a "village" being built around the HOF, but I'm sure the Woodlands can compete.  The Woodland wont pay for busing for both teams but they will be a good host...ok.

I'm sure the suburbs of Houston are great, but I'm not moving there.  Most fans are there for 1-2 days, and there won't even be that many of them.   Enjoy your two years, it's not coming back

That's funny Merle, I'm hoping for nothing but success for the Stagg Bowl's future, while you seem to revel in the possibility of a disaster in Texas. I mean with decent weather virtually assured in the fourth largest Metropolitan area in the country, let's hope (well I'll hope and you can just gnash your teeth), for a couple of good years in Texas before 100,000 football-crazy MUC fans decent on beautiful Canton, Ohio.

As you pointed out, most people only come to the Stagg Bowl for 1-2 days, so outside the HOF and the game itself, they won't get to experience "Everything Canton Has To Offer". Once you venture outside the HOF Village and its four star ($$$$) NFL hotel, you're in statistically the 2nd worst small city for crime in the country. What to see first? NBA G team the Canton Charge? The McKinley Presidential library? Arby's? With the 37° average December temps, I'm sure you'll need to beat away the throngs of locals with a stick should MHB play Berry in a Stagg Bowl. Enjoy your 14° temps and 0° wind chill to go along with your sunny disposition today...

BTW, I know nothing about Canton, but a quick Google search turned up the following results:
These Are The 10 Most Miserable Midwest Cities
These Are The 10 Most Ghetto Cities In Ohio
Canton ranked as one of the top 20 worst cities to live in
Canton named one of "Worst American Cities to Live In
These Are The 10 Most Dangerous Cities In Ohio For 2018

Thankfully, $700 Million should buy one helluva HOF Village – with prices to match.

Lived near Houston and lived near Canton and I would take Canton 100 times out of 100 times.

[merlecanlas]

Maybe, most D3fb fans are more interested in the actual game and might check out the HOF and everything that Canton offers.  There's a "village" being built around the HOF, but I'm sure the Woodlands can compete.  The Woodland wont pay for busing for both teams but they will be a good host...ok.

I'm sure the suburbs of Houston are great, but I'm not moving there.  Most fans are there for 1-2 days, and there won't even be that many of them.   Enjoy your two years, it's not coming back

That's funny Merle, I'm hoping for nothing but success for the Stagg Bowl's future, while you seem to revel in the possibility of a disaster in Texas. I mean with decent weather virtually assured in the fourth largest Metropolitan area in the country, let's hope (well I'll hope and you can just gnash your teeth), for a couple of good years in Texas before 100,000 football-crazy MUC fans decent on beautiful Canton, Ohio.

As you pointed out, most people only come to the Stagg Bowl for 1-2 days, so outside the HOF and the game itself, they won't get to experience "Everything Canton Has To Offer". Once you venture outside the HOF Village and its four star ($$$$) NFL hotel, you're in statistically the 2nd worst small city for crime in the country. What to see first? NBA G team the Canton Charge? The McKinley Presidential library? Arby's? With the 37° average December temps, I'm sure you'll need to beat away the throngs of locals with a stick should MHB play Berry in a Stagg Bowl. Enjoy your 14° temps and 0° wind chill to go along with your sunny disposition today...

BTW, I know nothing about Canton, but a quick Google search turned up the following results:
These Are The 10 Most Miserable Midwest Cities
These Are The 10 Most Ghetto Cities In Ohio
Canton ranked as one of the top 20 worst cities to live in
Canton named one of "Worst American Cities to Live In
These Are The 10 Most Dangerous Cities In Ohio For 2018

Thankfully, $700 Million should buy one helluva HOF Village – with prices to match.

Lived near Houston and lived near Canton and I would take Canton 100 times out of 100 times.

how dare you!

[smedindy]

I take a pass at both. Houston's too hot and humid and Canton reminds me of BFE Indiana (and I've been to Wooster and Alliance and Kent and Stow and Akron and Canton, so...yeah).

[edward de vere]

I wonder what the attendance #'s are for the 2017 TX HS semi's held on the same weekend of Stagg Bowl?  I'm sure all of those casual TX football fans would rather buy a ticket to see Mount vs Whitewater instead of watching the TX semi's on TV

Hmm.  You might have me on that one, if the games go head-to-head.

On the other hand, I find it really hard to believe that there isn't a single marketing whiz in the entire Houston metropolitan area.

[Pat Coleman]

Marketing can only lead the horse to water. Making it drink is a different thing entirely.

[edward de vere]

A marketing whiz, by definition, induces the horse to drink.

Otherwise, the marketing whiz ain't a marketing whiz.

[wally_wabash]

I disagree, based on: 1) Texas football insanity  2)  Good ol' southern hospitality  3)  The desire not to be embarrassed.  4) Extras, i.e. the D# recruitment idea that's been floated.  There are only about a million other possible enhancements.  All you need is one Bill Veeck.

I wonder what the attendance #'s are for the 2017 TX HS semi's held on the same weekend of Stagg Bowl?  I'm sure all of those casual TX football fans would rather buy a ticket to see Mount vs Whitewater instead of watching the TX semi's on TV

And I'm sure that you have grossly misunderstood an average Texan's appetite for high school football relative to a Division III game.  They would all rather watch the high school game. 

[MUC57]

Wally Wabash

I certainly understand your reasoning re Texas high school football. Alliance High School plays it's games in Mount Union Stadium. Pack the house every Friday night. Mount draws, typically, 1000-2000. This in a stadium that seats around 5500. People love their high school football. More people went to high school than went to college, so it makes sense.
Bottom line. We're "stuck" with Texas for 2 years. Let's give them a chance and hope everything works out OK!

[crufootball]

One thing to mention for the Texas high school semi-finals is they are all over the state of Texas, not in a single location and not televised to my knowledge. So while the Stagg Bowl will be competing potentially with a few games, it not against the championship games which are all in a single location which I am guessing will stay in Dallas for a while.

[joelmama]

I think the other thing that bears mentioning is that the HOF group will spend a lot of attention to promote this game.  That is a core part of their mission to promote their facilities especially to out of towners.  The events around the HOF game in August are well done and to a degree we will see some of that in Canton and I suspect (but do not know) that this effort will likely be more than we see from the Texas group which I doubt has the same level of professionalism because it is a just a different type of organization.  (Not meant to be a criticism of the people or organization just a recognition that it is a different organization type.)

[AO]

Found video of the BBQ Bowl event that the FCS championship hosts for the players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpiVRVcj7iY

If Shenandoah/Canton could provide similar entertainment for the players, that would be 100x more important to the athlete experience than whether they get 50 or 1,000 random people from the area to come to the game.

[hsbsballcoach7]

Found view of the BBQ Bowl event that the FCS championship hosts for the players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpiVRVcj7iY

If Shenandoah/Canton could provide similar entertainment for the players, that would be 100x more important to the athlete experience than whether they get 50 or 1,000 random people from the area to come to the game.

That's awesome! This is definitely what makes these games special for the players in addition to playing in the championship game. I certainly hope Shenandoah and Canton can BOTH provide a great experience similar to this.

[Desertraider]

Found video of the BBQ Bowl event that the FCS championship hosts for the players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpiVRVcj7iY

If Shenandoah/Canton could provide similar entertainment for the players, that would be 100x more important to the athlete experience than whether they get 50 or 1,000 random people from the area to come to the game.

I don't know about Shenandoah - does Texas have BBQ? 

[Ralph Turner]

Found video of the BBQ Bowl event that the FCS championship hosts for the players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpiVRVcj7iY

If Shenandoah/Canton could provide similar entertainment for the players, that would be 100x more important to the athlete experience than whether they get 50 or 1,000 random people from the area to come to the game.

I don't know about Shenandoah - does Texas have BBQ? 

We Texans prefer BBQ Beef!  I understand that some parts of the country use other meats.

[phil]

https://www.texasmonthly.com/s/the-golden-age-of-barbecue/

Top Ten list of BBQ joints in Texas. Corkscrew BBQ is in nearby Spring.