Shenandoah, TX 2018-19 NCAA d3fb championships

[Pat Coleman]

All the plain white bread you can eat.

[Bob.Gregg]

A marketing whiz, by definition, induces the horse to drink.

Otherwise, the marketing whiz ain't a marketing whiz.

A REAL marketing whiz eliminates the thinking process.  SALT THE OATS.  Once the horse gets to water, drinking is automatic.

[Warren Thompson]

All the plain white bread you can eat.

As a native of San Antonio and a lover of barbecue, I can't understand this love affair with "plain white bread." What's wrong with cornbread ... or even no bread? 

[hsbsballcoach7]

All the plain white bread you can eat.

As a native of San Antonio and a lover of barbecue, I can't understand this love affair with "plain white bread." What's wrong with cornbread ... or even no bread? 

My wife will begrudgingly tell you how much I love bbq, but I love mine with cornbread too. If it's any other bread they better have good butter with it....preferably cinnamon butter!

[edward de vere]

If there's an eating contest between VK and The Fredster my money's on VK.

[smedindy]

Marketing Cheez Whiz?

[Toby Taff]

All the plain white bread you can eat.

As a native of San Antonio and a lover of barbecue, I can't understand this love affair with "plain white bread." What's wrong with cornbread ... or even no bread? 

Most BBQ places serve corn cake not cornbread. There was a place in Abilene, Harold's, that sold hot water cornbread that was amazing.

[merlecanlas]

not a lot of good things said about Salem from the Shenandoah rep, but it was cawld

https://youtu.be/s3uUv5Lfn0I?t=8m20s

8:20 to 16:50

[Pat Coleman]

Watching this now. Thanks for picking up on this.

[Ralph Turner]

not a lot of good things said about Salem from the Shenandoah rep, but it was cawld

https://youtu.be/s3uUv5Lfn0I?t=8m20s

8:20 to 16:50

I thought that the woman who made the presentation was respectful of Salem, their accommodations and amenities provided. She mentioned that one hotel was a standard Sheraton property and the other was a classic local Salem hotel, beautifully decorated for Christmas. She acknowledged Salem's love of the Stagg and how they will miss it.

Yes she did mention that the weather was "cawld". (Of course this week, all of east Texas has been shut down by the Ice Storm and sub-freezing high temperatures during the last 2 days.)

I got the impression that she believes that Shenandoah, TX can put on a memorable Stagg Bowl.

[merlecanlas]

not a lot of good things said about Salem from the Shenandoah rep, but it was cawld

https://youtu.be/s3uUv5Lfn0I?t=8m20s

8:20 to 16:50

I thought that the woman who made the presentation was respectful of Salem, their accommodations and amenities provided. She mentioned that one hotel was a standard Sheraton property and the other was a classic local Salem hotel, beautifully decorated for Christmas. She acknowledged Salem's love of the Stagg and how they will miss it.

Yes she did mention that the weather was "cawld". (Of course this week, all of east Texas has been shut down by the Ice Storm and sub-freezing high temperatures during the last 2 days.)

I got the impression that she believes that Shenandoah, TX can put on a memorable Stagg Bowl.

I guess I took the following as backhanded at best: "here's Salem at night...the best time to see Salem", "here's their 50 year old stadium and...it's quite different from the one here", "the bottom picture on the right is the locker rooms..(gasp)...yes....", "this is a picture of their press box, and it was a cawld press box", "this is their 50 year old civic center and you can tell by the decorations", " the banquet was decorated with...uhm..christmas tinsel, tablecloths and nothing else"

"the UMHB stands were totally filled, they brought eight or 10 buses and 2 or 3 private planes"  .... ummmm
"we told UMHB that we expect them to be there.. next year, b/c that will bring a lot of people here"

Maybe I'm far too biased, but all of the UMHB references and calling Mount Union (21(?) time Stagg participant) the "other university" is a little odd when referencing the upcoming Stagg Bowls in 18 & 19.   It's probably a factor of one university "hosting" the game and not a conference, but strange non-the-less. 

[crufootball]

not a lot of good things said about Salem from the Shenandoah rep, but it was cawld

https://youtu.be/s3uUv5Lfn0I?t=8m20s

8:20 to 16:50

I thought that the woman who made the presentation was respectful of Salem, their accommodations and amenities provided. She mentioned that one hotel was a standard Sheraton property and the other was a classic local Salem hotel, beautifully decorated for Christmas. She acknowledged Salem's love of the Stagg and how they will miss it.

Yes she did mention that the weather was "cawld". (Of course this week, all of east Texas has been shut down by the Ice Storm and sub-freezing high temperatures during the last 2 days.)

I got the impression that she believes that Shenandoah, TX can put on a memorable Stagg Bowl.

I guess I took the following as backhanded at best: "here's Salem at night...the best time to see Salem", "here's their 50 year old stadium and...it's quite different from the one here", "the bottom picture on the right is the locker rooms..(gasp)...yes....", "this is a picture of their press box, and it was a cawld press box", "this is their 50 year old civic center and you can tell by the decorations", " the banquet was decorated with...uhm..christmas tinsel, tablecloths and nothing else"

"the UMHB stands were totally filled, they brought eight or 10 buses and 2 or 3 private planes"  .... ummmm
"we told UMHB that we expect them to be there.. next year, b/c that will bring a lot of people here"

Maybe I'm far too biased, but all of the UMHB references and calling Mount Union (21(?) time Stagg participant) the "other university" is a little odd when referencing the upcoming Stagg Bowls in 18 & 19.   It's probably a factor of one university "hosting" the game and not a conference, but strange non-the-less.

I won't defend the statements she made, no it wasn't a glowing review but she mixed in both subtle good and bad comments about Salem. But her job wasn't to give props to Salem, I assume it was to provide a review of what was the current expectations of the Stagg Bowl. I would have hoped that people would be a little happy that Shenandoah feels like they can at least match the quality of experience that Salem produced.

And yes she was inaccurate in her assessment of the the amount of fans UMHB brought but that won't really matter next year even if UMHB is in the Stagg Bowl.

And when it comes to her repeated UMHB references...UMHB is co-hosting the event for the next 2 years and she came essentially as a guest to every team event so of course she is going to mention that.There is also no need to mention Mount Union by name because it doesn't matter in that conversation, the game could have featured any 2 teams and she and a number of UMHB individuals would have been in Salem making the same notes either way.

[merlecanlas]

not a lot of good things said about Salem from the Shenandoah rep, but it was cawld

https://youtu.be/s3uUv5Lfn0I?t=8m20s

8:20 to 16:50

I thought that the woman who made the presentation was respectful of Salem, their accommodations and amenities provided. She mentioned that one hotel was a standard Sheraton property and the other was a classic local Salem hotel, beautifully decorated for Christmas. She acknowledged Salem's love of the Stagg and how they will miss it.

Yes she did mention that the weather was "cawld". (Of course this week, all of east Texas has been shut down by the Ice Storm and sub-freezing high temperatures during the last 2 days.)

I got the impression that she believes that Shenandoah, TX can put on a memorable Stagg Bowl.

I guess I took the following as backhanded at best: "here's Salem at night...the best time to see Salem", "here's their 50 year old stadium and...it's quite different from the one here", "the bottom picture on the right is the locker rooms..(gasp)...yes....", "this is a picture of their press box, and it was a cawld press box", "this is their 50 year old civic center and you can tell by the decorations", " the banquet was decorated with...uhm..christmas tinsel, tablecloths and nothing else"

"the UMHB stands were totally filled, they brought eight or 10 buses and 2 or 3 private planes"  .... ummmm
"we told UMHB that we expect them to be there.. next year, b/c that will bring a lot of people here"

Maybe I'm far too biased, but all of the UMHB references and calling Mount Union (21(?) time Stagg participant) the "other university" is a little odd when referencing the upcoming Stagg Bowls in 18 & 19.   It's probably a factor of one university "hosting" the game and not a conference, but strange non-the-less.

I won't defend the statements she made, no it wasn't a glowing review but she mixed in both subtle good and bad comments about Salem. But her job wasn't to give props to Salem, I assume it was to provide a review of what was the current expectations of the Stagg Bowl. I would have hoped that people would be a little happy that Shenandoah feels like they can at least match the quality of experience that Salem produced.

And yes she was inaccurate in her assessment of the the amount of fans UMHB brought but that won't really matter next year even if UMHB is in the Stagg Bowl.

And when it comes to her repeated UMHB references...UMHB is co-hosting the event for the next 2 years and she came essentially as a guest to every team event so of course she is going to mention that.There is also no need to mention Mount Union by name because it doesn't matter in that conversation, the game could have featured any 2 teams and she and a number of UMHB individuals would have been in Salem making the same notes either way.

I get it.  I think its odd that UMHB is hosting and not the ASC, but that is what it is.  But if I was in her shoes, I would have picked the brain of "the other university" that has been in the game almost yearly.

I just thought that her presentation lacked couth, maybe she didn't know there was a camera in the back of the room.

[wally_wabash]

Whatever point you're trying to make gets lost as soon as you start making fun of somebody's accent.  Not that this is inconsistent with your style, but dude seriously, really poor taste. 

Camera or no camera, audio stream or no, I don't think it matters what she said in that meeting.  Your mind has already been made up about Shenandoah Stagg Bowls. 

[AO]

Wouldn't the city rather have teams from outside the area make it to the Stagg bowl?  The MHB crowd is more likely to just go to the game and not eat/stay/shop in town.