FB: New York State Bowl

[XREDDRAGON77]

So after today, it looks like Cortaca 2.0 for the 3rd year in a row, which will yield NO Cortaca 2.0! Can't see either team going for this.

[ITH radio]

Nope, unless it's Cortland Vs Hobart

[XREDDRAGON77]

Any chance Hobart takes the bid as the #3 or does last year repeat itself? I would have to think that the athletic programs sign a clause to honor this game, but then again maybe not as last year happened!

[@d3jason]

I really want to see an Ithaca/Brockport game this year. Don't know how likely that is after today but how great would that be?

[XREDDRAGON77]

Are there any measures in place to prevent last year from repeating itself?

[Ithaca798891]

Are there any measures in place to prevent last year from repeating itself?

Unless you make it mandatory, no.

I mean, is there *any* scenario you can imagine where IC and Cortland want to go from 45,000 people at MetLife to a half empty campus because it's Thanksgiving week?

[Bartman]

I think Cortland v Hobart is a likely matchup. This assumes an Ithaca win at Metlife and a Pool C  for Ithaca.
If Cortland wins Metlife  they do have a chance for the Pool C ...if they don't get a Pool C, I doubt Ithaca or Cortland would want Cortaca II, so if Ithaca takes an ECAC bid, back to a Hobart-Cortland matchup. I would be up for that.

[ITH radio]

I'd be ok with Hobart-Alfred too. Just would be a little unfair if that was the case bc it sounds like the leagues would not honor the original odd-even year hosting scenario and would give it E8, regardless of overall record.

[Bartman]

I'd be ok with Hobart-Alfred too. Just would be a little unfair if that was the case bc it sounds like the leagues would not honor the original odd-even year hosting scenario and would give it E8, regardless of overall record.

I kinda see the point if I'm an E8 team, no game last year so they get home field. I would love to see the game at the Boz and  support the "LL" argument.  Realistically I'm just hoping for an Ithaca win at Metlife, not because I love Ithaca as much as I would like to see a hungry Statesmen team finish the season strong against a tough opponent(Alfred or Cortland?)and add confidence for next year. If Cortland rejects the spot , I am ready for the sound of frozen kazoos in Mayberry.

[AUPepBand]

I think a Hobart-Alfred match up would be great. Union won't lose to RPI. The way they've been smoked by Hobart & SLU in the last couple of weeks shows they just don't have it this season. Dutchmen have a ton of offensive talent and their D is pretty legit too. They'll give IC a good run for their money, I could even see them get the upset. Will see.

They met in the preseason scrimmage....but now they'd play when it means something! The band will be ready.

On Saxon Warriors!

Pep,
    A good old Saxon Warrior-Statesmen game in the post season would make me very happy. I'm rooting for it......Hobart might even put a pep band together .....an all out football and band battle.....Saxon Warrior pep Band an early favorite .....I see light snow and frozen kazoo sounds echoing in a winter wonderland game between 2 historic NY small college/D3 programs in 3 Overtimes for the E8/LL Bowl where both teams are winners....who cares about the NCAA tournament

Love the sentiments. But too many  scenarios to overcome this year. Pep's Saxons need to get past St. John Fisher, something they didn't do last year. Defense is playing well but AU has struggled offensively of late against respectable opponents Utica and Brockport. Will likely have to wait until 2021 when the Saxon Strong travel to Geneva...will officials at Boswell permit the AU Pep Band to attend and play? The Sound of the Saxons has peaked this year with a lot of work put in by AU Director of Bands Dr. Raul Barcenes. It has never sounded better!

Regarding the AU-Hobart series, Pep has had an enlargement made of a photo of an Alfred-Hobart football game played on a snow-covered Merrill Field back in 1926, complete with a couple of automobiles parked along the south rim. The old fieldhouse, which Pep would love to see rebuilt, sat in the north end. Hobart won, 18-0, which was typical before the arrival of Alexander "The Great" Yunevich in 1937.

The framed enlargement is on display on the ground floor of the library in a study area Pep has dubbed "Saxon Station," with a purple study room, gold study room and three restaurant booths in the common area, which also features Alfred's connection with the Erie Railroad. Highest point between New York (Hoboken, NJ actually) and Chicago on the old Erie Railroad is in the Town of Alfred at a place appropriately called "Tip Top." When it comes to higher education in New York State, it gets no higher than Alfred! (Campus elevation ranging from 1800 to 2300 feet).

On Saxon Warriors!

[Bartman]

So, Ithaca and Hobart should be tied for 2nd place(assuming Hobart beats the Yellowjackets). Since IC beat Hobart, I guess that gives them the nod for the LL slot in the NYS bowl...but will they want it after Metlife or the chance to play a more interesting ECAC game? I am happy for Mayberry( I will bring my own kazoo ) or Cortland if the Bombers take a pass.....if not, Hobart may be interested in applying for an ECAC game but deadline is tomorrow...we will see what unfolds after the Metlife game, but I would like to see the Statesmen finish strong with some post season experience.....I guess my favorite scenario would be Cortland beating IC and missing out on a close Pool C bid and Hobart travels to Cortland and beats the Metlife winner......yes, that would help heal some earlier season wounds.

[Oline89]

Here is my attempt at predicting the future, if IC wins Cortica and RPI loses the Shoes, IC would tie Hobart for second in the league.  Head to head goes to IC, BUT that would mean a repeat of Cortica (not happening) AND IC has now registered for the ECAC's.  So my guess would be Hobart v Cortland in NY State Bowl.

Now, if IC loses Cortica, and RPI wins the shoes.....mayhem may ensue.  Three way tie for LL title, Hobart wins secondary criteria (I believe) and goes to NY State Bowl.  I don't think Cortland, even at 9-1 makes pool C (really low SOS), so probably goes to NY State Bowl.  Does a 7-3 IC qualify for ECAC? There are a lot of strong teams that have declared (Hobart has not??!!)

[Bartman]

Here is my attempt at predicting the future, if IC wins Cortica and RPI loses the Shoes, IC would tie Hobart for second in the league.  Head to head goes to IC, BUT that would mean a repeat of Cortica (not happening) AND IC has now registered for the ECAC's.  So my guess would be Hobart v Cortland in NY State Bowl.

Now, if IC loses Cortica, and RPI wins the shoes.....mayhem may ensue.  Three way tie for LL title, Hobart wins secondary criteria (I believe) and goes to NY State Bowl.  I don't think Cortland, even at 9-1 makes pool C (really low SOS), so probably goes to NY State Bowl.  Does a 7-3 IC qualify for ECAC? There are a lot of strong teams that have declared (Hobart has not??!!)

Oline,
     If RPI beats Union, 3 way tie, and RPI gets the NY State Bowl based on H2H win against LL Champ,  Union. Crazy. Hobart is not an ECAC member this year, but will be evaluated going forward , so it's NYS Bowl or bust......Ithaca probably wants an ECAC at home bid, anyway whether 8-2 or 7-3, which they might get, although not sure if they are 7-3 with a 3 game end of season losing streak. Too bad we LL lost 2 NCAA bids based on cannabalizing each other.

[UfanBill]

Just to be clear an RPI "Shoes" win could create a three-way tie for 2nd place in the Liberty League. Union has clinched the outright championship.

[Oline89]

Just to be clear an RPI "Shoes" win could create a three-way tie for 2nd place in the Liberty League. Union has clinched the outright championship.

We know, this board is for the NY State Bowl, unless you think Union is conceding their NCAA bid, and would rather play here...........