FB: New York State Bowl

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Saxon73

Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 06, 2017, 10:48:36 AM
New coach- new system-and IC is back at it.
This turnaround is eye opening- Tho I do miss them in the E8
Salisbury not so much ;D

I guess that new defensive line coach is doing a heck of a job    :) :)
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Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 06, 2017, 10:27:04 AM
Bombers- If you knew that the game would be a repeat of Cortaca would you decline if you were IC?

Absolutely.

From a logistical standpoint, Cortaca is just a bear to pull off. You'd have to plan to need a lot of volunteers, and IC is on Thanksgiving break that whole week. Having it two weeks in a row would be a lot to ask.

But honestly, I'm just not sure what the program gains from any game against an E8 opponent. You're not getting a shot to be measured against another conference—because you already know where you stand with them. You're not getting a chance to send your program to some recruiting area you want to establish a pipeline to. I'm not in the locker room, but I doubt they're champing at the bit to get another crack at Alfred. What does Ithaca gain from the game?

I'd send them to the ECACs if it were up to me. It's not, of course, so who knows what they'll do

Saxon73

Quote from: Bombers798891 on November 06, 2017, 12:25:29 PM
Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 06, 2017, 10:27:04 AM
Bombers- If you knew that the game would be a repeat of Cortaca would you decline if you were IC?

Absolutely.

From a logistical standpoint, Cortaca is just a bear to pull off. You'd have to plan to need a lot of volunteers, and IC is on Thanksgiving break that whole week. Having it two weeks in a row would be a lot to ask.

But honestly, I'm just not sure what the program gains from any game against an E8 opponent. You're not getting a shot to be measured against another conference—because you already know where you stand with them. You're not getting a chance to send your program to some recruiting area you want to establish a pipeline to. I'm not in the locker room, but I doubt they're champing at the bit to get another crack at Alfred. What does Ithaca gain from the game?

I'd send them to the ECACs if it were up to me. It's not, of course, so who knows what they'll do

Bombers - I think you are 100 % ICorrect
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Pat Coleman

A second game against Cortland wouldn't be Cortaca The Event, though. It would not require the same logistics to handle a third of the crowd.
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Bombers798891

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 06, 2017, 02:23:36 PM
A second game against Cortland wouldn't be Cortaca The Event, though. It would not require the same logistics to handle a third of the crowd.

It's certainly possible we'd see a lower limit put on the number of tickets sold—otherwise you'd have to plan for such a crowd even if you "knew" it'd be smaller. Is there anything out there indicating that's what's going to happen? Have the conferences announced a cap on tickets?

But, suppose they did. That just reinforces my original belief, stated the day this game was announced. What's the buzz for a rematch? Not so much for the players, whose emotions I won't try to predict. But just overall. It's two weeks in a row, in front of a much smaller crowd, and doesn't even have the Jug at stake*? And, what if we took it a step further and imagined a scenario where, like Cortland, the Bombers know ahead of time that they're locked into this game?

*An assumption I am making based on the 1988 precedent.

And just from a program standpoint, why would you not want to have your kids play in a Division 1 stadium, and Franklin Field? Why would you not want a chance to get your team and coaches more exposure in that area?

I realize that budgets are the obvious elephant in the room, but I don't have access to IC's budget, so I have no idea how it plays out. But if RPI wins next week, we'll see how it goes down

Bombers798891

I wish I'd seen this before posting that screed. Ithaca has declared for the ECACs

http://www.ecacsports.com/sports/2017/10/24/2017%20D3FBFEST%20Declared%20Teams.aspx

Of course, the date on this means it was done when IC was still in play for the 3rd spot in the LL, and thus not eligible for the NYS Bowl, and it never hurts to leave your options open. But, if RPI beats Union, I would not be surprised if the Bombers were in Delaware the next week.

Naturally, I'm assuming we're going to be in Salem in December, but Delaware's nice too

AUKaz00

Quote from: cstate19 on November 05, 2017, 07:50:11 PM
First time checking in all year. Catching up and want to make sure I have this right. RPai wins and they are in, which guarantees a Cortaca V2.0?

Call me crazy but I LOVE the idea of a Cortaca II. Rematch is great for the players and would allow alumni and fans a chance to go without most of the drunken nonsense.

The last time we were talking about Cortaca II, Cortland ended up playing Dem Spicy Boyz.  Does that mean that Union will win the Shoes?
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Quote from: Bombers798891 on November 06, 2017, 03:58:40 PM
I wish I'd seen this before posting that screed. Ithaca has declared for the ECACs

http://www.ecacsports.com/sports/2017/10/24/2017%20D3FBFEST%20Declared%20Teams.aspx

Of course, the date on this means it was done when IC was still in play for the 3rd spot in the LL, and thus not eligible for the NYS Bowl, and it never hurts to leave your options open. But, if RPI beats Union, I would not be surprised if the Bombers were in Delaware the next week.

Naturally, I'm assuming we're going to be in Salem in December, but Delaware's nice too

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UfanBill

It's easy. After Union beats RPI this Saturday the Ithaca Bombers will be heading to New England to play WNE or Springfield, Union will be hosting Cortland in the NYS Bowl and RPI will play an ECAC game in the"Football Fest"in Delaware against the Salisbury/Frostburg loser.
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south hill observer

Quote from: UfanBill on November 06, 2017, 05:30:57 PM
It's easy. After Union beats RPI this Saturday the Ithaca Bombers will be heading to New England to play WNE or Springfield, Union will be hosting Cortland in the NYS Bowl and RPI will play an ECAC game in the"Football Fest"in Delaware against the Salisbury/Frostburg loser.

As much as I love your prediction I'm scared of the RPI- Union game and even if Union were to win I fear that the Bombers would end up at Mount Union or Delaware Valley. As a 7-3/6-4 team (depending on Cortaca results) I would think the NCAA would make bombers play the #1 seed. I would love for you to be correct.

UfanBill

Quote from: UfanBill on November 06, 2017, 05:30:57 PM
It's easy. After Union beats RPI this Saturday the Ithaca Bombers will be heading to New England to play WNE or Springfield, Union will be hosting Cortland in the NYS Bowl and RPI will play an ECAC game in the"Football Fest"in Delaware against the Salisbury/Frostburg loser.

I didn't mean to slight the Statesmen Bartman since they beat RPI, but as of now Hobart has not declared interest in the Football Fest. For that matter neither has Union. It would be a shame if the Dutchmen don't participate in the post season following this sensational comeback season.
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south hill observer

Quote from: UfanBill on November 06, 2017, 06:03:47 PM
Quote from: UfanBill on November 06, 2017, 05:30:57 PM
It's easy. After Union beats RPI this Saturday the Ithaca Bombers will be heading to New England to play WNE or Springfield, Union will be hosting Cortland in the NYS Bowl and RPI will play an ECAC game in the"Football Fest"in Delaware against the Salisbury/Frostburg loser.

I didn't mean to slight the Statesmen Bartman since they beat RPI, but as of now Hobart has not declared interest in the Football Fest. For that matter neither has Union. It would be a shame if the Dutchmen don't participate in the post season following this sensational comeback season.

I think Union is counting on beating RPI and playing in the bowl game.

cstate19

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 06, 2017, 02:23:36 PM
A second game against Cortland wouldn't be Cortaca The Event, though. It would not require the same logistics to handle a third of the crowd.

Completely agree. bet it draws much closer to 3,000 than 10,000.

Bombers798891

Quote from: south hill observer on November 06, 2017, 05:40:23 PM
Quote from: UfanBill on November 06, 2017, 05:30:57 PM
It's easy. After Union beats RPI this Saturday the Ithaca Bombers will be heading to New England to play WNE or Springfield, Union will be hosting Cortland in the NYS Bowl and RPI will play an ECAC game in the"Football Fest"in Delaware against the Salisbury/Frostburg loser.

As much as I love your prediction I'm scared of the RPI- Union game and even if Union were to win I fear that the Bombers would end up at Mount Union or Delaware Valley. As a 7-3/6-4 team (depending on Cortaca results) I would think the NCAA would make bombers play the #1 seed. I would love for you to be correct.

I think heading to Mount Union would be awesome. IDK, there's something about a game where everyone "knows" you're going to lose, and even if you do, you just throw everything you can at them. I loved, loved, loved, that Mount's first-string defense in 2007 went the whole regular season not allowing a TD, and then Ithaca hit them up for three. The loss wasn't even that big a deal to me. I know that team was better than this team, but there's something fun about those types of games