FB: New York State Bowl

[ITH radio]

Going to resurrect this topic as supposedly the LL plans to try having the NYS Bowl game. I think this could be a great opportunity to see a solid match-up between the 2nd (or 3rd) best LL and E8 teams. If Union loses to IC Saturday they'd be the likely LL pick, but if they retained the Shoes in the season finale, I could see them passing on the game and Hobart getting it.

E8 participants could be Cortland, Alfred or Brockport. Obviously we wouldn't see a BP-HOB rematch, but any version of Union vs. Alfred, Cortland or BP / HOB vs. Cortland or Alfred would be great games and an added bonus to each program's SR classes.

[Jonny Utah]

Going to resurrect this topic as supposedly the LL plans to try having the NYS Bowl game. I think this could be a great opportunity to see a solid match-up between the 2nd (or 3rd) best LL and E8 teams. If Union loses to IC Saturday they'd be the likely LL pick, but if they retained the Shoes in the season finale, I could see them passing on the game and Hobart getting it.

E8 participants could be Cortland, Alfred or Brockport. Obviously we wouldn't see a BP-HOB rematch, but any version of Union vs. Alfred, Cortland or BP / HOB vs. Cortland or Alfred would be great games and an added bonus to each program's SR classes.

I think the game at Cornell was pretty cool too.  Of course it is much more convenient to Ithaca than other schools, but a game in the Dome or Cornell has a nice post season feel to it.  Two cool stadiums to have a game in as well. 

[Ithaca798891]

Going to resurrect this topic as supposedly the LL plans to try having the NYS Bowl game. I think this could be a great opportunity to see a solid match-up between the 2nd (or 3rd) best LL and E8 teams. If Union loses to IC Saturday they'd be the likely LL pick, but if they retained the Shoes in the season finale, I could see them passing on the game and Hobart getting it.

E8 participants could be Cortland, Alfred or Brockport. Obviously we wouldn't see a BP-HOB rematch, but any version of Union vs. Alfred, Cortland or BP / HOB vs. Cortland or Alfred would be great games and an added bonus to each program's SR classes.

Having some fun thought experiments with the idea of teams turning down rematches.

So starting with a scenario where the LL starts IC-Union-Bart and the E8 goes Cortland-Port-Alfred.

1. Union passes for the reason you articulate above: They won the shoes and they want to end their season there.

2. So now you have Hobart-Port. Like you, I don't see the Statesmen being pumped about a rematch with a team they smoked once, so they pass and it goes to the 4th place team in the LL.

3. That team? Buffalo State—who have upset St. Lawrence and RPI.

4. Brockport, having topped Buffalo State by a scant 33 points earlier in the year, passes on the game, which brings us to the E8's third place team...

5. St. John Fisher, who has finished 3-3 and, with a win over Morrisville gets the tiebreaker. The Cardinals pass on a rematch, which then gets us to...

6. Alfred, I think?

[Oline89]

Going to resurrect this topic as supposedly the LL plans to try having the NYS Bowl game. I think this could be a great opportunity to see a solid match-up between the 2nd (or 3rd) best LL and E8 teams. If Union loses to IC Saturday they'd be the likely LL pick, but if they retained the Shoes in the season finale, I could see them passing on the game and Hobart getting it.

E8 participants could be Cortland, Alfred or Brockport. Obviously we wouldn't see a BP-HOB rematch, but any version of Union vs. Alfred, Cortland or BP / HOB vs. Cortland or Alfred would be great games and an added bonus to each program's SR classes.

Having some fun thought experiments with the idea of teams turning down rematches.

So starting with a scenario where the LL starts IC-Union-Bart and the E8 goes Cortland-Port-Alfred.

1. Union passes for the reason you articulate above: They won the shoes and they want to end their season there.

2. So now you have Hobart-Port. Like you, I don't see the Statesmen being pumped about a rematch with a team they smoked once, so they pass and it goes to the 4th place team in the LL.

3. That team? Buffalo State—who have upset St. Lawrence and RPI.

4. Brockport, having topped Buffalo State by a scant 33 points earlier in the year, passes on the game, which brings us to the E8's third place team...

5. St. John Fisher, who has finished 3-3 and, with a win over Morrisville gets the tiebreaker. The Cardinals pass on a rematch, which then gets us to...

6. Alfred, I think?

Here is how i see it playing out...

Bport beats Cortland this weekend.  Cortland then loses at Metlife.  Do they want to play again?  no
Union loses to Ithaca, and wins the Shoes.  9-1 doesn't get NCAA's, do they want to play again?  no
Hobart wins out.  Season ends at 8-2.  Do they want to play again? yes

Hobart v. Alfred in NY Bowl

If Union loses the shoes, they may want to play one more....but what is the tiebreaker for two 8-2 teams both 4-2 in league?

[ITH radio]

I think a Hobart-Alfred match up would be great. Union won't lose to RPI. The way they've been smoked by Hobart & SLU in the last couple of weeks shows they just don't have it this season. Dutchmen have a ton of offensive talent and their D is pretty legit too. They'll give IC a good run for their money, I could even see them get the upset. Will see.

[XREDDRAGON77]

If Cortland is in a position to declare for a post season game, they will play of chosen. That is the stance of the program. This week is a big test for that Pool A,  but after last years NY Bowl meltdown,  not sure what they do. I'm not sure what their affiliation with the ECAC is this year.

[UfanBill]

I'm not sure what Union might do if they don't get an NCAA bid. Last year's 7-2 team passed on an ECAC berth and a NY Bowl didn't materialize. A reminder about Union; it's been discussed before. They're on a tri-semester academic schedule. They have three ten week terms. Final exams for the first term are scheduled for Thursday Nov 21 through Tuesday Nov. 26 so a post season game would fall right in the middle. That's always a factor for Union's decision.

[ITH radio]

I'm not sure what Union might do if they don't get an NCAA bid. Last year's 7-2 team passed on an ECAC berth and a NY Bowl didn't materialize. A reminder about Union; it's been discussed before. They're on a tri-semester academic schedule. They have three ten week terms. Final exams for the first term are scheduled for Thursday Nov 21 through Tuesday Nov. 26 so a post season game would fall right in the middle. That's always a factor for Union's decision.

That's true - Union cited the exam schedule as being a reason why they passed on last year's game.

[AUPepBand]

I think a Hobart-Alfred match up would be great. Union won't lose to RPI. The way they've been smoked by Hobart & SLU in the last couple of weeks shows they just don't have it this season. Dutchmen have a ton of offensive talent and their D is pretty legit too. They'll give IC a good run for their money, I could even see them get the upset. Will see.

They met in the preseason scrimmage....but now they'd play when it means something! The band will be ready.

On Saxon Warriors!

[Oline89]

Since the bowl game was skipped last year, do we have any idea who would host this year?  E8 or LL?

[Jonny Utah]

Since the bowl game was skipped last year, do we have any idea who would host this year?  E8 or LL?

I thought Ithaca played Utica in that Bowl game.  Or was that a different ECAC game?

[ITH radio]

That was an ECAC game. Cortland Vs Ithaca didn't want to play again, and then finishing 2nd in LL back to back years was something the commissioner's didn't exactly foresee. Union hosted Cortland in 2017 so 2018 (even year) was supposed to be E8 hosting. In theory the LL would host this season.

[Oline89]

Since the bowl game was skipped last year, do we have any idea who would host this year?  E8 or LL?

I thought Ithaca played Utica in that Bowl game.  Or was that a different ECAC game?

That was an ECAC bowl....

[Jonny Utah]

Since the bowl game was skipped last year, do we have any idea who would host this year?  E8 or LL?

I thought Ithaca played Utica in that Bowl game.  Or was that a different ECAC game?

That was an ECAC bowl....

Oh yea forgot that the game between the two 2nd place teams was not an ECAC bowl.  Can imagine that the same thing could happen this year. 

[Bartman]

I think a Hobart-Alfred match up would be great. Union won't lose to RPI. The way they've been smoked by Hobart & SLU in the last couple of weeks shows they just don't have it this season. Dutchmen have a ton of offensive talent and their D is pretty legit too. They'll give IC a good run for their money, I could even see them get the upset. Will see.

They met in the preseason scrimmage....but now they'd play when it means something! The band will be ready.

On Saxon Warriors!

Pep,
    A good old Saxon Warrior-Statesmen game in the post season would make me very happy. I'm rooting for it......Hobart might even put a pep band together .....an all out football and band battle.....Saxon Warrior pep Band an early favorite .....I see light snow and frozen kazoo sounds echoing in a winter wonderland game between 2 historic NY small college/D3 programs in 3 Overtimes for the E8/LL Bowl where both teams are winners....who cares about the NCAA tournament