2018 NCAA Tournament

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Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 01, 2018, 03:24:13 AM
A little look at how hosts have done in the tournament recently... 2013 was the awkward year where the tournament was stretched out to the breaking point.

       Round 1   Round 2   Sweet 16   Elite 8
2017:   15-1       11-4       2-2       1-1
2016:   11-5        9-3       3-1       1-2
2015:   13-3       12-2       4-0       3-1
2014:   12-4        9-4       3-1       2-1
2013:   24-6        8-8       6-2        -
2012:   11-5        8-3       2-2       1-1
2011:   13-3       10-3       3-1       2-1
2010:   11-5        9-4       3-1       3-0
Totals minus 2013:
        86-26      68-23     20-8      13-7
        76.8%      74.1%     71.4%      65%


So overall, that's a mark of 187-64, good for a 74.5% winning percentage. Makes sense too that the numbers go down every round as the teams get better and thus the talent gap narrows.

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Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 01, 2018, 03:24:13 AM
A little look at how hosts have done in the tournament recently... 2013 was the awkward year where the tournament was stretched out to the breaking point.

       Round 1   Round 2   Sweet 16   Elite 8
2017:   15-1       11-4       2-2       1-1
2016:   11-5        9-3       3-1       1-2
2015:   13-3       12-2       4-0       3-1
2014:   12-4        9-4       3-1       2-1
2013:   24-6        8-8       6-2        -
2012:   11-5        8-3       2-2       1-1
2011:   13-3       10-3       3-1       2-1
2010:   11-5        9-4       3-1       3-0
Totals minus 2013:
        86-26      68-23     20-8      13-7
        76.8%      74.1%     71.4%      65%


A question about the role of teams that get a bye in the first round. Should not that game count as a 2nd round game, because one opponent has already won a game?

The host team in the 2nd round that received a bye was usually considered the higher seed. There may have been times when geographic proximity in the island regions mandated the venue (IMHO).

If so, then I would move the first round games in a bye bracket accordingly, so we always have 16 games in the second round and fewer in the first round.

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Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2018, 12:08:13 PM
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Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 01, 2018, 03:24:13 AM
A little look at how hosts have done in the tournament recently... 2013 was the awkward year where the tournament was stretched out to the breaking point.

       Round 1   Round 2   Sweet 16   Elite 8
2017:   15-1       11-4       2-2       1-1
2016:   11-5        9-3       3-1       1-2
2015:   13-3       12-2       4-0       3-1
2014:   12-4        9-4       3-1       2-1
2013:   24-6        8-8       6-2        -
2012:   11-5        8-3       2-2       1-1
2011:   13-3       10-3       3-1       2-1
2010:   11-5        9-4       3-1       3-0
Totals minus 2013:
        86-26      68-23     20-8      13-7
        76.8%      74.1%     71.4%      65%


A question about the role of teams that get a bye in the first round. Should not that game count as a 2nd round game, because one opponent has already won a game?

The host team in the 2nd round that received a bye was usually considered the higher seed. There may have been times when geographic proximity in the island regions mandated the venue (IMHO).

If so, then I would move the first round games in a bye bracket accordingly, so we always have 16 games in the second round and fewer in the first round.
The way I did those "pods" was the first round game was always at one of those two teams so that counted in the first round, then the winner traveled to the team with a bye and that counted for the 2nd round. That's why even though only 86 home teams won round one there ended up being 91 home teams in round two because five times the home team lost round one but then there was a different home team for round 2.

Another stat I didn't include in my initial post... home teams for the pods won the pod first weekend 60.7% while the 2nd weekend just 46.4%
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Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 01, 2018, 08:36:43 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2018, 12:08:13 PM
+1! FCG
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 01, 2018, 03:24:13 AM
A little look at how hosts have done in the tournament recently... 2013 was the awkward year where the tournament was stretched out to the breaking point.

       Round 1   Round 2   Sweet 16   Elite 8
2017:   15-1       11-4       2-2       1-1
2016:   11-5        9-3       3-1       1-2
2015:   13-3       12-2       4-0       3-1
2014:   12-4        9-4       3-1       2-1
2013:   24-6        8-8       6-2        -
2012:   11-5        8-3       2-2       1-1
2011:   13-3       10-3       3-1       2-1
2010:   11-5        9-4       3-1       3-0
Totals minus 2013:
        86-26      68-23     20-8      13-7
        76.8%      74.1%     71.4%      65%


A question about the role of teams that get a bye in the first round. Should not that game count as a 2nd round game, because one opponent has already won a game?

The host team in the 2nd round that received a bye was usually considered the higher seed. There may have been times when geographic proximity in the island regions mandated the venue (IMHO).

If so, then I would move the first round games in a bye bracket accordingly, so we always have 16 games in the second round and fewer in the first round.
The way I did those "pods" was the first round game was always at one of those two teams so that counted in the first round, then the winner traveled to the team with a bye and that counted for the 2nd round. That's why even though only 86 home teams won round one there ended up being 91 home teams in round two because five times the home team lost round one but then there was a different home team for round 2.

Another stat I didn't include in my initial post... home teams for the pods won the pod first weekend 60.7% while the 2nd weekend just 46.4%
Thanks for the explanation, FCG!  Another +1!

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Here's my take on the tournament...

Top-left bracket
Sectional final: Williams over Johns Hopkins
Salem darkhorse: MIT
Upset watch: Lebanon Valley over Middlebury

Bottom-left bracket
Sectional final: Wittenberg over John Carroll (but watch Augustana)
Salem darkhorse: Augsburg
Upset watch: Hope over Augsburg

Top-right bracket
Sectional final: UW-Platteville over Whitman (could have been for the Walnut & Bronze)
Salem darkhorse: Nebraska Wesleyan
Upset watch: CMS over Whitworth

Bottom-right bracket
Sectional final: Wesleyan over Cabrini
Salem darkhorse: None, but six teams have a decent shot (York, Plattsburgh, Hamilton, Swarthmore)
Upset watch: Nazareth over Hamilton

Championship
UW-Platteville over Wittenberg

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 Is their a ROKU channel for the NCAA tourney or do we have to go with the conference channel for a team(Landmark for Moravian,Scranton, or Juniata) or the host site conference(NESCAC for the Williams regional, e.g.)?

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Quote from: ronk on March 02, 2018, 12:51:03 PM
Is their a ROKU channel for the NCAA tourney or do we have to go with the conference channel for a team(Landmark for Moravian,Scranton, or Juniata) or the host site conference(NESCAC for the Williams regional, e.g.)?

I don't know that there's a nationwide channel, so it'll probably have to be the host team/conference site.

Here's the link to the York-Yeshiva game about to start: https://portal.stretchinternet.com/ycp/portal.htm?eventId=432350&streamType=video
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Quote from: lmitzel on March 02, 2018, 12:55:36 PM
Quote from: ronk on March 02, 2018, 12:51:03 PM
Is their a ROKU channel for the NCAA tourney or do we have to go with the conference channel for a team(Landmark for Moravian,Scranton, or Juniata) or the host site conference(NESCAC for the Williams regional, e.g.)?

I don't know that there's a nationwide channel, so it'll probably have to be the host team/conference site.

Here's the link to the York-Yeshiva game about to start: https://portal.stretchinternet.com/ycp/portal.htm?eventId=432350&streamType=video

JCUsports has a Boxcast channel.  That said, here are links to the two games in University Heights today:

IWU-Wooster
https://boxcast.tv/view/ncaa-division-iii-basketball-championship-1st-round-illinois-wesleyan-vs-wooster-633823

JCU-Thomas More
https://boxcast.tv/view/ncaa-division-iii-basketball-championship-1st-round-thomas-more-at-john-carroll-547519

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Quote from: Onward on, John Carroll on March 02, 2018, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: lmitzel on March 02, 2018, 12:55:36 PM
Quote from: ronk on March 02, 2018, 12:51:03 PM
Is their a ROKU channel for the NCAA tourney or do we have to go with the conference channel for a team(Landmark for Moravian,Scranton, or Juniata) or the host site conference(NESCAC for the Williams regional, e.g.)?

I don't know that there's a nationwide channel, so it'll probably have to be the host team/conference site.

Here's the link to the York-Yeshiva game about to start: https://portal.stretchinternet.com/ycp/portal.htm?eventId=432350&streamType=video

JCUsports has a Boxcast channel.  That said, here are links to the two games in University Heights today:

IWU-Wooster
https://boxcast.tv/view/ncaa-division-iii-basketball-championship-1st-round-illinois-wesleyan-vs-wooster-633823

JCU-Thomas More
https://boxcast.tv/view/ncaa-division-iii-basketball-championship-1st-round-thomas-more-at-john-carroll-547519

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Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2018, 12:08:13 PM
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Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 01, 2018, 03:24:13 AM
A little look at how hosts have done in the tournament recently... 2013 was the awkward year where the tournament was stretched out to the breaking point.

       Round 1   Round 2   Sweet 16   Elite 8
2017:   15-1       11-4       2-2       1-1
2016:   11-5        9-3       3-1       1-2
2015:   13-3       12-2       4-0       3-1
2014:   12-4        9-4       3-1       2-1
2013:   24-6        8-8       6-2        -
2012:   11-5        8-3       2-2       1-1
2011:   13-3       10-3       3-1       2-1
2010:   11-5        9-4       3-1       3-0
Totals minus 2013:
        86-26      68-23     20-8      13-7
        76.8%      74.1%     71.4%      65%


A question about the role of teams that get a bye in the first round. Should not that game count as a 2nd round game, because one opponent has already won a game?

The host team in the 2nd round that received a bye was usually considered the higher seed. There may have been times when geographic proximity in the island regions mandated the venue (IMHO).

If so, then I would move the first round games in a bye bracket accordingly, so we always have 16 games in the second round and fewer in the first round.
The way I did those "pods" was the first round game was always at one of those two teams so that counted in the first round, then the winner traveled to the team with a bye and that counted for the 2nd round. That's why even though only 86 home teams won round one there ended up being 91 home teams in round two because five times the home team lost round one but then there was a different home team for round 2.

Another stat I didn't include in my initial post... home teams for the pods won the pod first weekend 60.7% while the 2nd weekend just 46.4%

Still impressive, given that 46% is nearly twice as likely as the 25% odds you'd expect if all four teams in a pod were evenly matched. Home teams still a strong favorite in that second weekend. Cool data, +1.