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[PlaySimple]

Other than perhaps not having the same pipeline to youth coaches on the boys side as she might have on the girls side, I can't see what's not to like.  A pro coach in a Tier I pro league who has domestic and international pro experience as a player, youth national team experience, experience coaching at both D1 and DIII, longstanding local connections, AND who has experience serving as a recruiting coordinator on the coaching staff on the women's team at the same university, which is hugely important in understanding the uniquely intellectual school and its fearsome admissions standards, is pretty much a home run.

I only mentioned that some may not like it because there are, believe it or not, some that think women should not be coaching men. Most of those don't have an issue with men coaching women but don't like it the other way around. That is a topic for another discussion, though.

Everything that you mentioned about Sitch demonstrates why she will be an excellent coach and, as I mentioned, she was a great hire for Chicago. Her recruiting pipeline might not be the same but she is good and will have no problems forging the relationships and connctions that she needs to.

[Gregory Sager]

Other than perhaps not having the same pipeline to youth coaches on the boys side as she might have on the girls side, I can't see what's not to like.  A pro coach in a Tier I pro league who has domestic and international pro experience as a player, youth national team experience, experience coaching at both D1 and DIII, longstanding local connections, AND who has experience serving as a recruiting coordinator on the coaching staff on the women's team at the same university, which is hugely important in understanding the uniquely intellectual school and its fearsome admissions standards, is pretty much a home run.

I only mentioned that some may not like it because there are, believe it or not, some that think women should not be coaching men. Most of those don't have an issue with men coaching women but don't like it the other way around. That is a topic for another discussion, though.

Whether one likes it or not, that mentality about women coaching men does exist, and the existence of that mentality should be acknowledged rather than simply being wished away in silence. It's an obstacle that might even impede a coach as accomplished and well-credentialed as Julianne Sitch here or there on the recruiting trail. I'd be interested in learning whether Kim Wyant has ever encountered that situation while recruiting during her seven years running the Violets program, particularly since NYU is a peer and conference rival of the U of C.

On the other hand, this is one of the world's elite universities we're talking about. There are probably young men who would be willing to be coached by a Martian if it meant that they could wear a Maroons kit while earning a U of C diploma.

I suspect that the success of the Maroons will continue without a hitch under Sitch.

[Kuiper]

Other than perhaps not having the same pipeline to youth coaches on the boys side as she might have on the girls side, I can't see what's not to like.  A pro coach in a Tier I pro league who has domestic and international pro experience as a player, youth national team experience, experience coaching at both D1 and DIII, longstanding local connections, AND who has experience serving as a recruiting coordinator on the coaching staff on the women's team at the same university, which is hugely important in understanding the uniquely intellectual school and its fearsome admissions standards, is pretty much a home run.

I only mentioned that some may not like it because there are, believe it or not, some that think women should not be coaching men. Most of those don't have an issue with men coaching women but don't like it the other way around. That is a topic for another discussion, though.

Whether one likes it or not, that mentality about women coaching men does exist, and the existence of that mentality should be acknowledged rather than simply being wished away in silence. It's an obstacle that might even impede a coach as accomplished and well-credentialed as Julianne Sitch here or there on the recruiting trail. I'd be interested in learning whether Kim Wyant has ever encountered that situation while recruiting during her seven years running the Violets program, particularly since NYU is a peer and conference rival of the U of C.

On the other hand, this is one of the world's elite universities we're talking about. There are probably young men who would be willing to be coached by a Martian if it meant that they could wear a Maroons kit while earning a U of C diploma.

I suspect that the success of the Maroons will continue without a hitch under Sitch.

Speaking of Wyant, one interesting thing she and Sitch have in common is that both were assistant coaches on the staff of the women's soccer team at the university where they were eventually hired as head coaches of the men's team.  That probably established both a degree of familiarity and comfort with the decision makers and, as I mentioned earlier, helped in giving them a leg up in terms of understanding the university and their academic and admissions requirements.  I agree that the types of students who those schools typically attract should be similar regardless of the coach.

One thing that Wyant had that Sitch does not is experience as a head coach of a college team.  Sitch was head coach of the Chicago Red Stars reserves, but hasn't run a college program herself.  Not a big deal in the sense that many head coaches are hired after several years of experience as an assistant coach, but there will probably be a period of transition.

[Kuiper]

Trevor Swartz named Head Coach at Claremont-Mudd-Scripps men's soccer.  The team was impressive last year under Fahey with Swartz as lead assistant and I'm sure Fahey gave them his endorsement and his hire helps with continuity, but he is very young. Graduated from Indiana in 2018 and had two one year volunteer assistant coaching jobs with D1 programs (while playing some lower league professional soccer) before coming to CMS last year. 

https://www.cmsathletics.org/sports/msoc/2021-22/releases/20220427k7jg5m

[SaintsgoMarching]

I was recruited to play at Regis University in Denver, CO and offered a full ride scholarship. At the time Amy Machin Ward was the head coach - and she was not well liked. I felt nauseous after meeting for 20 minutes in her office, and her players absolutely hated her heavy handed style. She didn't last long.

I ended up going to St. Lawrence to play for a man of high integrity and honor in Bob Durocher and had a pretty decent college career.

I would personally never play for a woman - under any circumstances. And I don't believe women belong in leadership. Period. Women tend to put peace over truth whereas men (or at least real men who haven't cucked to Neo-feminism) place truth over peace. The irony is that you can't have peace without truth.

Go ahead, call me a misogynist.

[camosfan]

Thats rough!  but I like honesty .

[PaulNewman]

I was recruited to play at Regis University in Denver, CO and offered a full ride scholarship. At the time Amy Machin Ward was the head coach - and she was not well liked. I felt nauseous after meeting for 20 minutes in her office, and her players absolutely hated her heavy handed style. She didn't last long.

I ended up going to St. Lawrence to play for a man of high integrity and honor in Bob Durocher and had a pretty decent college career.

I would personally never play for a woman - under any circumstances. And I don't believe women belong in leadership. Period. Women tend to put peace over truth whereas men (or at least real men who haven't cucked to Neo-feminism) place truth over peace. The irony is that you can't have peace without truth.

Go ahead, call me a misogynist.

No worries.  You are a misogynist.....or really bad at parody.

[SaintsgoMarching]

That didn't take long.

Beta males are so predictable.

[PaulNewman]

That didn't take long.

Beta males are so predictable.

Stop before you embarrass yourself even more.

If for no other reason stop because you're staining the very fine name of SLU.

[SaintsgoMarching]

Welcome to the end of the social discourse in America.

Challenge the leftist pre-approved dominant narrative and get labeled a misogynist, racist, or whatever useless insult you wish to hurl in my direction.

And rather than insult me and arrogantly position yourself as my moral superior, debate the merits of why you think that women should be in leadership of young men and that would be a healthy debate.

As far as embarrassing SLU - I pretty much did the opposite of that as player as I embarrassed our opponents for four years and helped to put that program on the map. I loved clowning on mental midgets just like you. You would have been so wound up by halftime trying to stop me that your coach would have benched you if you hadn't already been sent off.

Too funny Paul Newman.

[Another Mom]

Welcome to the end of the social discourse in America.

Challenge the leftist pre-approved dominant narrative and get labeled a misogynist, racist, or whatever useless insult you wish to hurl in my direction.

And rather than insult me and arrogantly position yourself as my moral superior, debate the merits of why you think that women should be in leadership of young men and that would be a healthy debate.

As far as embarrassing SLU - I pretty much did the opposite of that as player as I embarrassed our opponents for four years and helped to put that program on the map. I loved clowning on mental midgets just like you. You would have been so wound up by halftime trying to stop me that your coach would have benched you if you hadn't already been sent off.

Too funny Paul Newman.

Wait, how old are you? Because you sound like you are about twelve.

[SaintsgoMarching]

Good one.

Simple - I don't believe women should be leading young men.  I do not agree with women in leadership roles.

Does that make you virtuous and me un-virtuous?

Can someone debate the merits of this, rather than be triggered by my stance and resort to insults?

[d4_Pace]

Well this is more excitement than I expected logging into the boards tonight.  Mr. Marching I do think it is fair to acknowledge that some people will certainly be turned off by the idea of playing for a female coach which does limit your available talent pool. I don't think that is necessarily prohibitive to being successful at a school like Uchicago or NYU that tends to attract more liberal students who may be more open to the idea compared to other schools.

That being said it seems a little outlandish to flat out dismiss all women from all leadership positions. Numerous women are serving with distinction in the upper echelons of the military today, a position that requires a level of leadership of men far beyond that required of a dIII soccer coach. 

[SaintsgoMarching]

Thanks Mr. Pace. I appreciate your view here and willingness to debate.

Although I disagree strongly. It is my view that sending women to the front lines of a war is a sin. Women are not wired for war, and should be protected from the horrors of war. They are the ones who give birth to our future generations. This is sacred and they should never be put into armed conflict.

Men and women are created differently, and have lived in traditional roles for thousands of years before woke feminism came in and told women to go out there and chase careers and t essentially compete with men.  The women I know in my community who are stay at home moms, homeschooling their children, taking care of the garden and the animals, with their husbands as protector/providers are the happiest folks I know with the healthiest most long lasting marriages. In my little neck of the woods in North Idaho the divorce rate are a fraction of what you will find in liberal cities where the traditional roles of men and women have all but disappeared.  People get married young, stay married, and make tons of babies. Be fruitful and multiply.

[Ejay]

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but respectfully, I don't think it's really up for debate.  Kind of like the flat earth theory.