WBB: Coast-To-Coast Athletic Conference

[bbald eagle]

UMW  74  CNU  69 Final as two top 10 teams battle it out. Brianne Comden scores 26 for UMW.  Now they are tied at the top of the CAC; CNU & UMW each have only one loss on the season, splitting their home/away series.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

UMW  74  CNU  69 Final as two top 10 teams battle it out. Brianne Comden scores 26 for UMW.  Now they are tied at the top of the CAC; CNU & UMW each have only one loss on the season, splitting their home/away series.

I did look it up last night.  If they each get through conference with one loss (a big if, but still) it's a coin flip for the #1 seed.

[Swish3]

Now we hear from bbald eagle....

Round two to UMW...who's ready for the rubber match and bragging rights?  If they do finish tied, it seems like a coin toss just isn't fair...hate to see the #1 seed determined via pure luck.

[bbald eagle]

Swish, what would be fairer than a coin toss if both teams end the CAC season winning all league games other than splitting with each other? (A rhetorical question, I guess, since the CAC rules specify a coin toss in that situation.) Being the #1 seed, of course, does not guarantee hosting the tournament championship game. The #1 seed still has to win in the preliminary rounds of the tournament. 

[Swish3]

Swish, what would be fairer than a coin toss if both teams end the CAC season winning all league games other than splitting with each other? (A rhetorical question, I guess, since the CAC rules specify a coin toss in that situation.) Being the #1 seed, of course, does not guarantee hosting the tournament championship game. The #1 seed still has to win in the preliminary rounds of the tournament. 

Playing a game at a neutral site to determine the #1 seed....

Getting there's not guaranteed, but if the #1 seed makes it to the championship, they're guaranteed a home game, which is an advantage....

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Swish, what would be fairer than a coin toss if both teams end the CAC season winning all league games other than splitting with each other? (A rhetorical question, I guess, since the CAC rules specify a coin toss in that situation.) Being the #1 seed, of course, does not guarantee hosting the tournament championship game. The #1 seed still has to win in the preliminary rounds of the tournament. 

Well, there are other options, but the basketball committee in the conference chose not to use those other options, apparently.

[bbald eagle]

Playing a game at a neutral site to determine the #1 seed....

Playing an extra game at a neutral site before the tournament to see who is the #1 seed in the tournament that follows? Seems overly dramatic to me.  Then again, I'd guess that the teams could gripe over whether the chosen neutral site gives the other team an advantage, due to, for example, travel requirements, ease of fan attendance, or whatever else they choose to squabble about. Oh well, the CAC says coin flip, so that's what it is if both win out.

[Swish3]

Playing a game at a neutral site to determine the #1 seed....

Playing an extra game at a neutral site before the tournament to see who is the #1 seed in the tournament that follows? Seems overly dramatic to me.  Then again, I'd guess that the teams could gripe over whether the chosen neutral site gives the other team an advantage, due to, for example, travel requirements, ease of fan attendance, or whatever else they choose to squabble about. Oh well, the CAC says coin flip, so that's what it is if both win out.

In an ideal world, yes, it's the fairest thing I can think of...teams that win the conference regular season, or in this case, potentially tie, want to win the conference tournament for the best possible seed in the NCAA tournament.  In the CAC, because the higher seed always hosts, getting the top seed is an advantage, which should be determined in the best possible way...frankly, a coin toss might be the worst.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Playing a game at a neutral site to determine the #1 seed....

Playing an extra game at a neutral site before the tournament to see who is the #1 seed in the tournament that follows? Seems overly dramatic to me.  Then again, I'd guess that the teams could gripe over whether the chosen neutral site gives the other team an advantage, due to, for example, travel requirements, ease of fan attendance, or whatever else they choose to squabble about. Oh well, the CAC says coin flip, so that's what it is if both win out.

In an ideal world, yes, it's the fairest thing I can think of...teams that win the conference regular season, or in this case, potentially tie, want to win the conference tournament for the best possible seed in the NCAA tournament.  In the CAC, because the higher seed always hosts, getting the top seed is an advantage, which should be determined in the best possible way...frankly, a coin toss might be the worst.

Nothing is quite fair, really, outside of head to head.  The coaches had the option to use point differential and decided against it.  Plus, maybe one of them will lose one somewhere.  Tiebreakers, by definition, are unfair - it's a response to two teams being even.  Them's the breaks.

[Swish3]

The Lady Captains have a tough game tonight against Marymount, who's on the verge of cracking the top 25...CNU was able to eke one out in Arlington, and I see this one being close, as well.

GO LADY CAPS!

[Swish3]

Tough loss for CNU last night...Marymount seems to be playing well at the right time.  May not need a tiebreaker after all, but UMW still has to play at Marymount and CNU at York, so we'll see....

GO LADY CAPS!

[bbald eagle]

Tough loss for CNU last night...Marymount seems to be playing well at the right time.  May not need a tiebreaker after all, but UMW still has to play at Marymount and CNU at York, so we'll see....

GO LADY CAPS!

Even if the regular season doesn't end in a tiebreaker situation, it's not that unusual for the #1 seed to lose at home during the tournament.

[bbald eagle]

Ouch. It looks like a tie at the top is back in play as UMW falls at home to Penn State - Harrisburg. There's even a chance for a three way tie now. At least there'll be no coin flip for the tournament seeding.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Ouch. It looks like a tie at the top is back in play as UMW falls at home to Penn State - Harrisburg. There's even a chance for a three way tie now. At least there'll be no coin flip for the tournament seeding.

CNU is actually in first place now, since their loss to Marymount will trump the UMW loss to PSU-Harrisburg.

[seahawkjim]

In the case of a tie, it goes head-to-head first.  If a tie-breaker cannot be determined from that, it then goes to record against conference opponents not involved in the tie from top to bottom.  If both Mary Washington and Christopher Newport win out, Mary Washington should be the #1 seed as they would have swept Marymount and Christopher Newport went 1-1 against them.