WBB: Coast-To-Coast Athletic Conference

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

The ACAA model is no regular season play, and using Massey Ratings to create seedings for the postseason tournament bracket.

Do you know how they determine host team for postseason tournament?

Heh -- the ACAA has had a predetermined host, and the host team got an automatic bid, so even if the host school was not among the best four teams, they still qualified, and bumped someone else.

Does the CAC really want/need to get involved w/a conference this horrible?  If it does happen, thank God they likely wouldn't play each other in the regular season!  The travel budget alone would probably nix any thought of that, but even if they did, I wouldn't waste one second of my time and money to watch any of the current ACAA teams play. 

That has fewer ramifications when an automatic bid is not on the line, of course.

The bottom line is protecting the AQ - this gives them at least an extra year to figure out their future without losing their conference and AQ status.  That's huge.

Most of the ACAA teams will be finding homes elsewhere anyway.  Delhi and UVF are already leaving, Pratt will get into another conference at some point - likely the same with Pine Manor.  Finlandia has been working towards the UMAC for a while.  Most of those teams were pulled together out of convenience anyway - if the CAC gets to a place where they want to do a real conference schedule again, probably the outliers will just move on.

It's not ideal, for sure, but it's in everyone's best interest for the short term.

Didn't Dave think the CAC would fare well in Pool B?

Yeah, but once you lose your conference status and AQ, you have to go back through the process to get them back (including the two year waiting period) - the CAC teams clearly want to be remain a conference and this is how they're doing it.  It'll be messy for a little while, but they'll figure it out eventually.

[VT-Alum-NOVA]

pontification on any universities CAC targeting to join that are within sensible driving distance?
I do not see many opportunities in near future.   are conferences with only or mostly private universities leery to joining a d3 public conference?

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

pontification on any universities CAC targeting to join that are within sensible driving distance?
I do not see many opportunities in near future.   are conferences with only or mostly private universities leery to joining a d3 public conference?

We all know the USA South won't be together forever; there are options there for NC teams to join in.  I suspect the CAC is also targeting new teams looking to get into D3.  Regent University is one, for sure - maybe Washington Adventist?  Bob Jones and Warren Wilson are currently in an exploratory year - they might be too far, but they're viable future options.  Some of the southern NEAC schools, maybe, too.  There's lots of room for movement, the CAC just needs more time.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

pontification on any universities CAC targeting to join that are within sensible driving distance?
I do not see many opportunities in near future.   are conferences with only or mostly private universities leery to joining a d3 public conference?

We all know the USA South won't be together forever; there are options there for NC teams to join in.  I suspect the CAC is also targeting new teams looking to get into D3.  Regent University is one, for sure - maybe Washington Adventist?  Bob Jones and Warren Wilson are currently in an exploratory year - they might be too far, but they're viable future options.  Some of the southern NEAC schools, maybe, too.  There's lots of room for movement, the CAC just needs more time.

To make the USA South matters worse, I think Bob Jones and maybe even Warren Wilson are supposed to be headed to there. SMH

[VT-Alum-NOVA]

this "band aid" fix of ACAA+CAC conference will last several years at best.  with revolving door ACAA; and SVU + SMU leaving in '22, I do not see them getting out of ACAA conference tourney model for several years. 

[CNU85]

CNU wins big 99-51. The top scorer for CNU had.....wait for it.......12 points. That's it. 16 different players scored. With 16 underclassman this is shaping up to potentially be a very special team!

[VT-Alum-NOVA]

CNU wins big 99-51. The top scorer for CNU had.....wait for it.......12 points. That's it. 16 different players scored. With 16 underclassman this is shaping up to potentially be a very special team!

St Mary's is not very good this year and that's being very kind.
Watching the game, CNU looks like it's found groove in implementing their Captain's Choas.  Earlier in season, multiple younger players were struggling with CNU's type of pressing D.
I see them going 10-0 in conference and for conf tourney, CNU rarely loses at home.

[VT-Alum-NOVA]

Congrats CNU WBB for 2nd straight regular season CAC champion.  To get into dance, they will still need to win CAC Tourney but #1 seeding helps.
https://twitter.com/cnuwbb/status/1226616673588871171?s=20

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Congrats CNU WBB for 2nd straight regular season CAC champion.  To get into dance, they will still need to win CAC Tourney but #1 seeding helps.
https://twitter.com/cnuwbb/status/1226616673588871171?s=20

Well winning the tournament would be good ... but they may have a solid at-large chance as well. Their SOS number looks pretty solid and they have played a lot of opponents that may be regionally ranked. We will learn a little more on Wednesday when the first rankings come out ... and then can extrapolate from there (first rankings will not have "Results versus Regionally Ranked Opponents" (aka vRRO) as it won't exist).

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

The vRRO is interesting - the loss to Tufts might actually boost their chances when they get to the table.

[VT-Alum-NOVA]

The vRRO is interesting - the loss to Tufts might actually boost their chances when they get to the table.

would loss to Messiah qualify as well?  if Peace wins USA South tourney, loss to them not too bad
what really hurts CNU is loss to Meredith.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

The vRRO is interesting - the loss to Tufts might actually boost their chances when they get to the table.

would loss to Messiah qualify as well?  if Peace wins USA South tourney, loss to them not too bad
what really hurts CNU is loss to Meredith.

Any regionally ranked games will be considered, of course, but a good performance against Tufts is going to speak louder than others.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

To Ryan's point ... the loss to Meredith hurts on their WL%, but by the definitions of the criteria, it won't be talked about unless another team (or teams as three, four, or more could be discussed at the same time) also played Meredith - then it would come up in conversation with the primary criteria. So thus, the Tufts result will have a larger impact than the Meredith one generally speaking (granted a win over Meredith improves the WL numbers and that does have an impact).

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Women's first Regional Rankings released.

https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/women-regional-rankings-first

[Swish3]

The Meredith loss is a head scratcher, but I don't see the Lady Captains losing the conference tournament....