UAA 2018

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Gregory Sager

Quote from: blooter442 on August 23, 2018, 08:16:13 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on August 23, 2018, 01:19:59 AM
Seriously? After going on and on about the NPU vs. U of C semifinal, you completely missed the fact that Katsimpalis replaced Bonin at keeper in the semifinal's shootout?

Calm down. I knew he was involved in the Elite 8 shootout, but couldn't remember whether that was the case with the Final 4.

Why wouldn't you look at the box score when you evaluate a game and then comment online about it?

http://athletics.uchicago.edu/sports/msoc/2017-18/files/npu-ucm2.htm

Honestly, I'm not trying to jump down your throat on this, I promise. It just seemed strange to me that you didn't notice the change in keepers when the shootout began, because Dave and Ira discussed it at length on the air. First, they speculated as to whether or not Coach Babst would switch out Katsimpalis for Bonin, based upon what he had done in the Elite Eight match. Then, when it happened, they went on at length about it  -- which they should have, given that it's a huge deal when you swap out your senior starting keeper for a freshman reserve in a national semifinal. Also, there's a lot of downtime between the end of a second overtime and the start of a shootout, so Dave and Ira had plenty of opportunity to chew the fat over Katsimpalis-for-Bonin. I remember that they even brought up the fact that Katsimpalis wasn't entirely unproven, Elite Eight shootout or not, since he had started (and finished) five matches in late October and early November for the Maroons.

Quote from: blooter442 on August 23, 2018, 08:16:13 AMRegardless, seeing him in one additional shootout doesn't really do that much more in terms of being able to evaluate him.

I agree. It would be foolish to evaluate a keeper based upon a couple of shootouts. The only reason that I posted was the fact that your bringing up Katsimpalis subbing in at keeper in the Elite Eight shootout but omitting that he subsequently did so as well in the Final Four shootout simply looked odd and begged for comment.

Quote from: blooter442 on August 23, 2018, 08:16:13 AMAnd if we want to go after people for completely missing facts...

Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 12, 2017, 12:01:03 AM
Setting aside sports that are sponsored by fewer than half of the UAA's schools (e.g., wrestling and women's golf), you have to go all the way back to the 2009-10 school year to find NYU winning a UAA title in anything (for the record, it was men's cross-country).

...which, as previously stated, is factually incorrect, since the Violets men's soccer team won the 2010-11 UAA title.

Really? You're bringing up something dating back to last December that I've already admitted? How is this even remotely germane to the topic at hand?
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

blooter442

Quote from: Gregory Sager on August 23, 2018, 01:45:39 PM
Why wouldn't you look at the box score when you evaluate a game and then comment online about it?
Why would I look at the box score when I recall a game? As for why wouldn't I, if I went back and reviewed box scores every time I commented on a game, I probably wouldn't have time for anything else. Sure, I looked at a few schedules in writing that post, but I can generally recall the flow of the matches I watch. Even if I miss something, I can still sleep at night. You are probably correct that they made a big deal of it, but quite candidly that night I had watched more than 214 minutes of soccer by that point, and it had happened in Chicago's previous match as well, so I probably didn't think much of it.

Quote from: Gregory Sager on August 23, 2018, 01:45:39 PM
http://athletics.uchicago.edu/sports/msoc/2017-18/files/npu-ucm2.htm

Honestly, I'm not trying to jump down your throat on this, I promise.
When your only comment on an eight-paragraph post is to take issue with one particular line, start your response with "seriously?" and use phrases like "going on and on," and "completely missed the fact," it can come across as rather condescending. That may not have been your intent, but that's how it was read. I will take you at your word, though, and chalk it up to a miscommunication.

Quote from: Gregory Sager on August 23, 2018, 01:45:39 PM
Really? You're bringing up something dating back to last December that I've already admitted? How is this even remotely germane to the topic at hand?
Why? Because you expressed incredulity that I could "completely miss [a] fact." Certainly I am not perfect, but it just seemed to me a bit "holier than thou" to call someone out on missing a fact when you yourself have done so. Again, we can chalk it up to a miscommunication.

WUPHF

#47
I am watching the Washington University-Ohio Wesleyan game and I have a question.

Did the rules change regarding the sideline officials and their role in calling fouls?

I have seen three that appeared to be called from the sideline in the first half

The Bears are looking pretty good and holding the majority of the possession and a few opportunities but they could not finish.  They also caught a big break with 15 minutes left in the half as OWU had a point-blank shot that rattled off the cross bar.

Edit: I watched most of the game.  Ohio Wesleyan looked much better in the second half and eventually broke through with 6 minutes left to get the only goal of the game.  Washington University had a number of opportunities in the final minutes (finishing with a 8-4 advantage in shots on frame), but could not get one past the keeper.

WUPHF

Washington University trails Benedictine 2-0 late in the first half despite the 13-2 advantage in shots on goal including a few point blank shots.  Washington University is the better team in every regard.  A loss today will haunt them for the rest of the season.

WUPHF

Washington University was able to tie things up at 2-2 but Benedictine would strike again on a header at the 75 minute mark to win 3-2.  The Bears created opportunity after opportunity after opportunity, but could not find the back of the net.

Coach Clarke had mentioned injuries...

It appears that at least two players did not play including the freshman who scored against Saint Louis University.

Tough, tough, tough loss.

Gregory Sager

Chicago opened its season with a 1-0 win over Southwestern down in Texas. Matthew Koh scored in the 58th minute with the only tally of the contest.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

4samuy

Fun game to watch. #3 Chicago leads at #17 Trinity 3-1 on goals by Lopez, Adeyosun and Koh. 30 mins to play.

Gregory Sager

Trinity (TX) and Chicago going to OT tied at 3-3. The Tigers were robbed of what should have been a PK when Matthew Koh took down a Tigers attacker on a breakaway in the box with five minutes to go that wasn't whistled.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Ommadawn

A gritty comeback for Trinity to equalize. Chicago seems to be less affected by the Texas heat and humidity than Trinity, but it's surely a battle of attrition at this point.

Gregory Sager

The attrition has expanded to red cards, as each team has a player sent off -- Romero for the Maroons, Moore for the Tigers. It'll be ten-on-ten in the second OT.

It's a very entertaining match between two high-powered sides. The English broadcaster for Trinity (TX) is a hoot as well. It's like a bit of Premier League vibe in Stetson-and-chili country.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

4samuy

Greg,

Not sure I saw the take down by koh with 5 mins left but imho  The pk for trinity to tie the game was a horrible call and the tackle on koh with a minute remaining was an obvious penalty and should have been a pk.   

blooter442

Quote from: 4samuy on September 02, 2018, 11:54:17 PM
Greg,

Not sure I saw the take down by koh with 5 mins left but imho  The pk for trinity to tie the game was a horrible call and the tackle on koh with a minute remaining was an obvious penalty and should have been a pk.

Both of the non-calls looked like penalties to me.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: blooter442 on September 02, 2018, 11:58:11 PM
Quote from: 4samuy on September 02, 2018, 11:54:17 PM
Greg,

Not sure I saw the take down by koh with 5 mins left but imho  The pk for trinity to tie the game was a horrible call and the tackle on koh with a minute remaining was an obvious penalty and should have been a pk.

Both of the non-calls looked like penalties to me.

They showed Koh's takedown at the 4:56 mark on a replay. it was pretty blatant.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Ommadawn on September 02, 2018, 11:32:36 PM
Chicago seems to be less affected by the Texas heat and humidity than Trinity

I agree completely. As I said in the National Perspective room, Chicago had three great chances in the second OT and Trinity (TX) really didn't have any -- and on all three chances it appeared as though the Tigers were dragging a bit.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

lastguyoffthebench


Is the Trinity-Chicago match still viewable online?