UAA 2018

[Flying Weasel]

Well, even though the USC is not still putting the regional #1's in the top eight spots, then the regional #2's in spots 9 thru 16, followed by the regional #3's, and lastly a one lucky regional #4, they do still take three teams from each region and a fourth from one region.  Therefore, WashU's national ranking is due to its being #3 in the Central region.  Now that begs the question, how did they manage a #3 rankings in the Central region?  They were #6 last week and then go winless (a loss and a tie) and somehow, now 5-4-1, jump to #3, moving ahead of North Park (7-2-0) who won their only game. Go figure?!?

My initial thought was that perhaps it was like when Thomas College got into the USC rankings in 2015 (in all likelihood) because someone meant to put in Thomas More...maybe this was a similar situation with WashU and Mary Washington?

No.  First, Mary Washington is already in a No. 8.  Second, the USC national rankings need a third team from the Central Region . . . which is WashU this week. It's the Central Region rankings that are the head scratcher.  And Mary Washington has nothing to do with that.

[blooter442]

Well, even though the USC is not still putting the regional #1's in the top eight spots, then the regional #2's in spots 9 thru 16, followed by the regional #3's, and lastly a one lucky regional #4, they do still take three teams from each region and a fourth from one region.  Therefore, WashU's national ranking is due to its being #3 in the Central region.  Now that begs the question, how did they manage a #3 rankings in the Central region?  They were #6 last week and then go winless (a loss and a tie) and somehow, now 5-4-1, jump to #3, moving ahead of North Park (7-2-0) who won their only game. Go figure?!?

My initial thought was that perhaps it was like when Thomas College got into the USC rankings in 2015 (in all likelihood) because someone meant to put in Thomas More...maybe this was a similar situation with WashU and Mary Washington?

No.  First, Mary Washington is already in a No. 8.  Second, the USC national rankings need a third team from the Central Region . . . which is WashU this week. It's the Central Region rankings that are the head scratcher.  And Mary Washington has nothing to do with that.

Right, and nor are Thomas and Thomas More in the same region, and I'm pretty sure Thomas More was in the 25 already at that time. I'm just saying that (and I have no idea how votes are tabulated/etc.) maybe someone (or multiple people) wrote "Washington" and it was meant to be Mary Washington instead of Washington St. Louis. I'm not saying that's what happened, but it does seem to be a mystery.

[Flying Weasel]

Well, even though the USC is not still putting the regional #1's in the top eight spots, then the regional #2's in spots 9 thru 16, followed by the regional #3's, and lastly a one lucky regional #4, they do still take three teams from each region and a fourth from one region.  Therefore, WashU's national ranking is due to its being #3 in the Central region.  Now that begs the question, how did they manage a #3 rankings in the Central region?  They were #6 last week and then go winless (a loss and a tie) and somehow, now 5-4-1, jump to #3, moving ahead of North Park (7-2-0) who won their only game. Go figure?!?

My initial thought was that perhaps it was like when Thomas College got into the USC rankings in 2015 (in all likelihood) because someone meant to put in Thomas More...maybe this was a similar situation with WashU and Mary Washington?

No.  First, Mary Washington is already in a No. 8.  Second, the USC national rankings need a third team from the Central Region . . . which is WashU this week. It's the Central Region rankings that are the head scratcher.  And Mary Washington has nothing to do with that.

Right, and nor are Thomas and Thomas More in the same region, and I'm pretty sure Thomas More was in the 25 already at that time. I'm just saying that (and I have no idea how votes are tabulated/etc.) maybe someone (or multiple people) wrote "Washington" and it was meant to be Mary Washington instead of Washington St. Louis. I'm not saying that's what happened, but it does seem to be a mystery.

And I'm just saying that as the #3 ranked team in the Central Region, WashU is supposed to be in the national Top 25 . . . that's straightforward, no mystery to be solved, no need to guess how or why or wonder if someone typed the wrong name.  If the situation you remember seemed to be a case of mixing up similar names, I'm not sure how that relates to the current question about WashU's national ranking.  It's the Central Region rankings which is where things don't make sense.  Are you suggesting that someone mis-wrote WashU when they meant to write the name of a team that isn't even in the Central Region?  No, for me the question is, did the coaches actually vote WashU higher than North Park (after having North Park ahead of WashU a week earlier) or was there an uncaught error in the tallying of votes?

[blooter442]

And I'm just saying that as the #3 ranked team in the Central Region, WashU is supposed to be in the national Top 25 . . . that's straightforward, no mystery to be solved, no need to guess how or why or wonder if someone typed the wrong name.  If the situation you remember seemed to be a case of mixing up similar names, I'm not sure how that relates to the current question about WashU's national ranking.  It's the Central Region rankings which is where things don't make sense.  Are you suggesting that someone mis-wrote WashU when they meant to write the name of a team that isn't even in the Central Region?  No, for me the question is, did the coaches actually vote WashU higher than North Park (after having North Park ahead of WashU a week earlier) or was there an uncaught error in the tallying of votes?

If the national rankings are tabulated largely based on each region's rankings (all the #1s, all the #2s, etc.), as it seems they are, then I get why that wouldn't be the case. I'm just saying that the only parallel I could draw where a team that didn't seem to be in the running for a national ranking somehow emerged in the national top 25 was when Thomas College randomly showed up alongside Thomas More (who was IIRC somewhere around the 15-20 spots) in the USC Top 25 one week in 2015.

[4samuy]

I can't figure out the move of WashU in the Central Region rankings as well.  It's perplexing to me, but none the less, that puts 6 UAA teams ranked in the USC 5th poll.  I remember some discussion on one of the boards about the number of teams from a conference being ranked in a single USC poll.  Has a conference ever had six teams ranked in a single top 25 poll? 

Because the UAA is comprised of so many different regions, I would think they would be the only conference to have the opportunity to do that, but has it ever happened?

[Mr.Right]

Emory starts the year 8-0-0 and are all of a sudden in a bit of a rut...They are 0-2-0 in UAA and just tied Maryville last night. At 8-2-1 and playing at a desperate Brandeis side and resurgent NYU this weekend they better figure it out quickly. I thought Emory would be in a tight battle with Chicago and Brandeis for the 2018 UAA title when the season started as they have the pieces but not sure what is going on...

[Mr.Right]

Like the Liberty League and Nescac the UAA has a MONSTER weekend for all teams starting in a couple hours. Can CMU or Case knock off Chicago at Home? The rest of the league surely hopes so. I would say this weekend is most important for Brandeis and Wash U considering those two are already teetering on the wrong side of a Pool C bubble. They both must get 2 Wins this weekend or at the very least go 1-0-1 to stay in contention. I suppose going 1-1-0 is not season over but then they would have to start relying on other teams for help. You never want to get to that point at least not this early in October. Brandeis gets UR and Emory at Home and Wash U travels to CMU and Case. I am curious to see UR as I have not seen them since their impressive Elite 8 run last season. This league is always so competitive top to bottom(minus NYU until 2018) it makes it ripe for Draws. I am guessing that trend continues this weekend with teams that can find Wins climbing over 2-3 teams in the standings.

[Mr.Right]

Brandeis goes up 1-0 on UR about 3 minutes in on an Alex Walter header off a corner. It looked like a set play as Walter's defender got picked in the box..It goes without saying what a huge goal that is.

[Mr.Right]

Brandies Noah Gabs with an opening takes a dipping rip that just misses wide left...inches from being 2-0...

UR #6 is an absolute monster up top...He is some target up there but Walter matching him well. I love Brandeis Handler's leadership, intensity and athleticism I just wish he would cut down on some of his giveaways at times. He is a solid LB but I think maybe rushes sometimes with the ball

[Mr.Right]

UR ties it up 1-1 on about their 10th dangerous long throw. They have settled nicely into this game but TBH Brandeis GK Irwin has made me real nervy on these long throws all game. One went thru his hands and that one I could not tell if he could of gotten to as he was frozen on his line. The issue on that goal though was the UR kid and actually another one in the box were open and got free. It did not look like anyone for Brandeis went for that ball...1-1 about 10 minutes left...

[Mr.Right]

UR gets another free header off a corner that hits the crossbar. Brandeis needs to wake up a bit defending set pieces as UR has looked dangerous on them all night.

[Mr.Right]

1-1 Brandies and UR at the Half. An absolute beautiful driven ball on the carpet by Brandeis #2 Panson that splits UR defenders and leads #3 Casey but it was snuffed out by UR's GK. UR GK looks to be a solid keeper back there. I think Panson who is only a frosh is going to be a big time player. I am thinking there are more goals in this game.

[PaulNewman]

Noticed that CMU jumped out to a 1-0 lead and then checked a few minutes later and Chicago was up 2-1.  CMU needs to be getting some points from these home games or they're going to be some trouble for Pool C.  Case may be in a must win today with Wash U after losing at home to NYU.

[WUPHF]

Case is leading Washington University 1-0 with 20 minutes left.

I am flipping between work and the game and every time I do, the Bears have possession.  The Spartans are breaking everything up.   I must have missed the Case goal and the eight shots they have.

[PaulNewman]

Was getting ready to post on CMU-Chicago when UR scores at beginning of OT to get big win over Brandeis.

Last 5 minutes CMU coach told them to go into a 2-2-1-3-2 or something like that....created a lot of pressure but no great chances.  Actually Chicago just absorbed pressure pretty much the last 20-25 minutes....did the same against Calvin.  That may burn the Maroons at some point.

And Case gets the win.