2020 NCAA Tournament

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Pat Coleman

Ramps, one-way streets, cloverleaf exits on the other side headed away from campus, etc.
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2020, 01:34:54 PM
Ramps, one-way streets, cloverleaf exits on the other side headed away from campus, etc.

Going around a mountain (thinking of how many ways I've seen highways split lol)...
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Oline89

Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2020, 01:34:54 PM
Ramps, one-way streets, cloverleaf exits on the other side headed away from campus, etc.

So, who determines the best route?  I bet you can create a straighter shot by taking backroads, it will take twice as long, but distance may be less. 

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Quote from: Oline89 on March 09, 2020, 01:59:26 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2020, 01:34:54 PM
Ramps, one-way streets, cloverleaf exits on the other side headed away from campus, etc.

So, who determines the best route?  I bet you can create a straighter shot by taking backroads, it will take twice as long, but distance may be less.

The NCAA has a website that does the mileage between institutions - I believe from the main athletics facility to the other. We share it here all the time: https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles

But you have to remember, this is based on (a) buses and not cars (backroads can't be an option) and (b) without crossing international borders (we've been through that debacle as well).
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Quote from: Oline89 on March 09, 2020, 01:59:26 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2020, 01:34:54 PM
Ramps, one-way streets, cloverleaf exits on the other side headed away from campus, etc.

So, who determines the best route?  I bet you can create a straighter shot by taking backroads, it will take twice as long, but distance may be less.

It's a program the NCAA uses - essentially google maps or something similar - using "shortest distance."  These are the shortest distances.
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Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 09, 2020, 02:09:02 PM
Quote from: Oline89 on March 09, 2020, 01:59:26 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2020, 01:34:54 PM
Ramps, one-way streets, cloverleaf exits on the other side headed away from campus, etc.

So, who determines the best route?  I bet you can create a straighter shot by taking backroads, it will take twice as long, but distance may be less.

It's a program the NCAA uses - essentially google maps or something similar - using "shortest distance."  These are the shortest distances.

... for use by buses. Not cars.
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thebear

For Example Potsdam to Colby is about a 7 hour drive through Canada, but closer to 8 in the USA.
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The debacle showed up a few years ago when SUNY Geneseo was awarded hosting of the Sectional when somehow the NCAA thought Hope could get there in under 500 miles ... then it was quickly realized the committee had been given bad intel from those above them. The mileage was as if Hope went through Detroit and Canada around the upper part of Lake Erie.

That was changed a few hours later to a school (which I can't remember) in Ohio instead.
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Titan Q

Sweet 16 matchups per Massey:


#5-Swarthmore@
#25-Whitworth

#15-Brockport@
#19-Tufts
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#1-St. John's@
#2-St. Thomas

#8-Elmhurst@
#11-Pomona-Pitzer
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#4-Mount Union@
#10-Wittenberg

#3-Randolph-Macon@
#7-Yeshiva
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#14-Christopher Newport@
#23-Hobart

#6-North Central@
#9-Wash U


https://www.masseyratings.com/cb2020/ncaa-d3/ratings

Oline89


augie77

Why can't they go through Canada?  Of course the travelling entourage would all need to have a passport (most Michiganders do!), but going through Sarnia, Ontario (rather than Detroit) to Geneseo would cut off hundreds of miles.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: augie77 on March 09, 2020, 02:43:38 PM
Why can't they go through Canada?  Of course the travelling entourage would all need to have a passport (most Michiganders do!), but going through Sarnia, Ontario (rather than Detroit) to Geneseo would cut off hundreds of miles.

Because on a few day's notice ... anyone without a passport or proper documents isn't going to be able to cross through. Not everyone has passports and such. And while drivers' licenses have been allowed in the past, that isn't always the case especially for buses.
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hickory_cornhusker

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 09, 2020, 02:28:18 PM
The debacle showed up a few years ago when SUNY Geneseo was awarded hosting of the Sectional when somehow the NCAA thought Hope could get there in under 500 miles ... then it was quickly realized the committee had been given bad intel from those above them. The mileage was as if Hope went through Detroit and Canada around the upper part of Lake Erie.

That was changed a few hours later to a school (which I can't remember) in Ohio instead.

They also have to make sure it doesn't use ferries. Back when 200 mikes was the range for a way to be in-region and in-region was the record used and not overall record, the program said Hope and Carthage are less than 200 miles from each other but the only way that was possible was a ferry ride across Lake Michigan, in December.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: hickory_cornhusker on March 09, 2020, 03:39:44 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 09, 2020, 02:28:18 PM
The debacle showed up a few years ago when SUNY Geneseo was awarded hosting of the Sectional when somehow the NCAA thought Hope could get there in under 500 miles ... then it was quickly realized the committee had been given bad intel from those above them. The mileage was as if Hope went through Detroit and Canada around the upper part of Lake Erie.

That was changed a few hours later to a school (which I can't remember) in Ohio instead.

They also have to make sure it doesn't use ferries. Back when 200 mikes was the range for a way to be in-region and in-region was the record used and not overall record, the program said Hope and Carthage are less than 200 miles from each other but the only way that was possible was a ferry ride across Lake Michigan, in December.

This is true ...
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89Pirate

Question(s) about the All Start voting announcement just posted.

1> It states that "The game will be played on March 20 at xxx p.m. ET, prior to the NCAA Division III men's basketball championship game."  Will it be that weekend in Fort Wayne?  Or two weeks later in Atlanta?

2> It states that the list of players will be from a "list with eight top senior student-athletes whose team is no longer participating in the NCAA Tournament."  Will that list be updated as teams get knocked out of the tournament? Not my Pirates of course  :)

Sorry - us anal-retentive accountants want to know these details...