2020 NCAA Tournament

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smedindy

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 12, 2020, 08:07:10 AM
Quote from: smedindy on March 12, 2020, 12:29:07 AM
Fred Hoiberg coached his Nebraska squad against Indiana today even though he felt sick. With about five or so minutes to go he couldn't go on, and left the bench, and then the hospital. His team is being quarantined.

I don't know what the repercussions will be, but it could be that a 14th seed in the Big Ten Tourney may have ended the season for everyone.

He was diagnosed with influenza A, the common cold, and was not quarantined.

I saw that later, but still....scary moment.
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: GoPerry on March 12, 2020, 02:39:49 PM
Quote from: jknezek on March 12, 2020, 02:38:10 PM
Duke shutting down athletics, including basketball, makes it a "when", not an "if" NCAA gives up. Legitimacy of the tournament is now clearly at risk. I expect we will not get through this weekend without the NCAA pulling the plug.

Agree.  Kansas (merely the #1 team in the country) has also suspended all home/away contests and all athletics related travel.

But they said this would not stop them from participating in the NCAA tournament should it be played.
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Quote from: WUPHF on March 12, 2020, 02:01:10 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 12, 2020, 01:15:09 PM
Quote from: NEPAFAN on March 12, 2020, 09:39:19 AM
Sounds like Hopkins was ahead of the curve...

Not when they conducted their other sports that weekend like nothing was happening.

It is highly unlikely that in what was a chancellor or president-level decision, they said hey, let's close the basketball games because you know, Yeshiva, and then decided there was no need to consider the other outdoor sports.  Those and every other event being held on-campus was certainly part of a conversation.

It is time to move on from the basketball decisions should be made by people involved in basketball mentality.  It is time to move on from the I wash my hands, so let me do whatever I want mentality.

I was told it absolutely was a decision at the highest administrative levels. I also have a neighbor who was on the call representing those outside JHU ... so I know it involved higher admins.
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NEPAFAN

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 12, 2020, 02:48:36 PM
Quote from: GoPerry on March 12, 2020, 02:39:49 PM
Quote from: jknezek on March 12, 2020, 02:38:10 PM
Duke shutting down athletics, including basketball, makes it a "when", not an "if" NCAA gives up. Legitimacy of the tournament is now clearly at risk. I expect we will not get through this weekend without the NCAA pulling the plug.

Agree.  Kansas (merely the #1 team in the country) has also suspended all home/away contests and all athletics related travel.

But they said this would not stop them from participating in the NCAA tournament should it be played.

No way the tourney is played.
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GoPerry

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 12, 2020, 02:48:36 PM
Quote from: GoPerry on March 12, 2020, 02:39:49 PM
Quote from: jknezek on March 12, 2020, 02:38:10 PM
Duke shutting down athletics, including basketball, makes it a "when", not an "if" NCAA gives up. Legitimacy of the tournament is now clearly at risk. I expect we will not get through this weekend without the NCAA pulling the plug.

Agree.  Kansas (merely the #1 team in the country) has also suspended all home/away contests and all athletics related travel.

But they said this would not stop them from participating in the NCAA tournament should it be played.

Really?  This tweet makes no mention of that . . .

https://twitter.com/KUAthletics/status/1238161457474306050?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Sounds pretty definitive - no travel.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: GoPerry on March 12, 2020, 03:15:58 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 12, 2020, 02:48:36 PM
Quote from: GoPerry on March 12, 2020, 02:39:49 PM
Quote from: jknezek on March 12, 2020, 02:38:10 PM
Duke shutting down athletics, including basketball, makes it a "when", not an "if" NCAA gives up. Legitimacy of the tournament is now clearly at risk. I expect we will not get through this weekend without the NCAA pulling the plug.

Agree.  Kansas (merely the #1 team in the country) has also suspended all home/away contests and all athletics related travel.

But they said this would not stop them from participating in the NCAA tournament should it be played.

Really?  This tweet makes no mention of that . . .

https://twitter.com/KUAthletics/status/1238161457474306050?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Sounds pretty definitive - no travel.

There's a much longer statement on the website that specifies that it doesn't include the NCAA tournament.  But that may be moot as the ACC has announced they will skip the tournament unless it's postponed.
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Also, at least one reporter talked to Bill Self and tweeted out the conversation about it not applying to the NCAA Tournament.
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jamtod

It's official. NCAA has canceled "D1 Men's and Women's basketball tournaments and all remaining winter and spring championships."

This came from Mark Emmert and I assume carries down to D3 as well?

jknezek

Quote from: jamtod on March 12, 2020, 04:20:18 PM
It's official. NCAA has canceled "D1 Men's and Women's basketball tournaments and all remaining winter and spring championships."

This came from Mark Emmert and I assume carries down to D3 as well?

All remaining championships would apply to DIII.

jamtod

Quote from: jknezek on March 12, 2020, 04:26:05 PM
Quote from: jamtod on March 12, 2020, 04:20:18 PM
It's official. NCAA has canceled "D1 Men's and Women's basketball tournaments and all remaining winter and spring championships."

This came from Mark Emmert and I assume carries down to D3 as well?

All remaining championships would apply to DIII.

I assumed as much, but was not certain if Emmert's purview was all of NCAA or just D1 (obviously his focus and comments were on D1 as that's where the $$ is)

CNU85

Quote from: jamtod on March 12, 2020, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: jknezek on March 12, 2020, 04:26:05 PM
Quote from: jamtod on March 12, 2020, 04:20:18 PM
It's official. NCAA has canceled "D1 Men's and Women's basketball tournaments and all remaining winter and spring championships."

This came from Mark Emmert and I assume carries down to D3 as well?

All remaining championships would apply to DIII.

I assumed as much, but was not certain if Emmert's purview was all of NCAA or just D1 (obviously his focus and comments were on D1 as that's where the $$ is)

I just got word. All means D3. Done. Official word will be out shortly.

txg

I hope Whitworth and Pomona didn't already travel.  That would be brutal.

kiko

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Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 12, 2020, 02:22:59 PM
Quote from: kiko on March 12, 2020, 02:15:21 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 12, 2020, 01:15:09 PM
Quote from: NEPAFAN on March 12, 2020, 09:39:19 AM
Sounds like Hopkins was ahead of the curve...

Not when they conducted their other sports that weekend like nothing was happening.

You keep insisting this was the case, as though there weren't conversations and considerations that led to the choices that were made.  JHU likely made nuanced decisions based on different risk calculations.  Their administration doesn't owe an explanation on how they arrived at the choices they made to you, to me, or to anyone.

At the time you pointed to what others were (and weren't) doing with allowing public access to their tournament games, and huffed and puffed that JHU was overreacting.  But look at what is happening now.

Hopkins was absolutely ahead of the curve.  To suggest otherwise is, to be blunt, embarrassing.

I'm not going to argue against what's happening now, but we do need to remember, just because everyone is doing it and most people are on board with it, we won't know for a few months (and maybe never) if it is an overreaction.  You can't prove a negative.

The issue with JHU was not the decisions that were made, but the rationale they gave.  They were spooked by having Yeshiva players and fans on campus - which is less and less unjustifiable as the days go on - but they never said as much.  The NCAA and WPI seemed willing to say it; JHU never did.  I think that's what rubbed a few of us the wrong way.  Not the closing so much as seeming to dance around the real reasons.

Correct that we cannot prove a negative.  We will never know what the impact of the more risk averse choice might be.  But extra caution in a situation like that is not a bad thing IMO.

I'm not the least bit bothered by the reasons they gave for the decision.  In my mind, it was diplomatic niceties.  They took the action that they felt needed to be taken, but there was no reason to put another school in the crosshairs as they explained their rationale.  It was the equivalent of a high level exec or official announcing a decision to leave an organization to "explore other opportunities" when it is clear they were asked to depart.

mwunder

It's official. NCAA has canceled "D1 Men's and Women's basketball tournaments and all remaining winter and spring championships."

So this affects all of these sports: 

Baseball (M)
Beach Volleyball (W)
Golf (M & W)
Lacrosse (M)
Lacrosse (W)
Rowing (W)
Softball (W)
Tennis (M & W)
Outdoor Track & Field (M & W)
Volleyball (M)
Water Polo (W)

Unprecedented for sure.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh



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