D3 Football Map

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crufootball

Quote from: crufootball on August 10, 2021, 05:40:26 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on August 10, 2021, 08:57:34 AM
I've updated the map to the new 6 regions, added Keystone, and moved several to the gone list.

If anyone knows of new stadium locations or changed websites for any team in the past couple years let me know and I'll get it updated

Haha love the skull and crossbones on the fomer D3 schools.

Looking at the map for Region 6, just begs for a winner take all type of tournament in Denver while everyone else plays the tournament as they normally do.

Gray Fox

Quote from: crufootball on August 10, 2021, 05:40:26 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on August 10, 2021, 08:57:34 AM
I've updated the map to the new 6 regions, added Keystone, and moved several to the gone list.

If anyone knows of new stadium locations or changed websites for any team in the past couple years let me know and I'll get it updated

Haha love the skull and crossbones on the fomer D3 schools.
I don't, since one of them was mine. :( >:(
Fierce When Roused

Ron Boerger

Quote from: crufootball on August 10, 2021, 05:40:26 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on August 10, 2021, 08:57:34 AM
I've updated the map to the new 6 regions, added Keystone, and moved several to the gone list.

If anyone knows of new stadium locations or changed websites for any team in the past couple years let me know and I'll get it updated

Haha love the skull and crossbones on the fomer D3 schools.

A lot of great work in that map!   Thanks FC.

Colorado College (Colorado Springs) should be added to the dropped list.   I believe they used to play at Washburn Field.

hazzben

It seems like an easy fix for balance would be to move the WIAC (or MIAC) from Region 6 over to Region 5. The WIAC especially sits on top of a whole swath of CCIW and MWC teams already. And it would solve the issue of how overly stacked Region 6 is, which affects Regional Rankings and has Pool C implications.

Also, these maps are freaking awesome. Thanks for doing this!

Ron Boerger

Quote from: hazzben on August 11, 2021, 12:14:04 PM
It seems like an easy fix for balance would be to move the WIAC (or MIAC) from Region 6 over to Region 5. The WIAC especially sits on top of a whole swath of CCIW and MWC teams already. And it would solve the issue of how overly stacked Region 6 is, which affects Regional Rankings and has Pool C implications.

Also, these maps are freaking awesome. Thanks for doing this!

Also easy would have been moving the ASC from 6 to 3, which would almost totally balance out the discrepancy in teams per division.   The ASC and SAA play each other a lot in non-conference play (well, the ASC only has one out-of-conference opportunity, but they still play a lot due to proximity). 

hazzben

Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 11, 2021, 04:41:07 PM
Quote from: hazzben on August 11, 2021, 12:14:04 PM
It seems like an easy fix for balance would be to move the WIAC (or MIAC) from Region 6 over to Region 5. The WIAC especially sits on top of a whole swath of CCIW and MWC teams already. And it would solve the issue of how overly stacked Region 6 is, which affects Regional Rankings and has Pool C implications.

Also, these maps are freaking awesome. Thanks for doing this!

Also easy would have been moving the ASC from 6 to 3, which would almost totally balance out the discrepancy in teams per division.   The ASC and SAA play each other a lot in non-conference play (well, the ASC only has one out-of-conference opportunity, but they still play a lot due to proximity). 

Sure would. Which begs the question, with two viable options, how did we end up with such an outlier region to begin with?

crufootball

With the Top 25 coming out I had to take a look and see how the regions stacked up.

Region 1 - 1
Region 2 - 4
Region 3 - 4
Region 4 - 3
Region 5 - 5
Region 6 - 8 (Of the 8, 6 are in the Top 10)

Obviously we hopefully have a lot of football to be played in the few months but no one is going to be surprised if Region 6 has a lion share of the Top 25/Top 10 and there doesn't seem to be a need to cram that many traditional powers into one region.





MRMIKESMITH

Quote from: crufootball on August 18, 2021, 12:54:40 PM
With the Top 25 coming out I had to take a look and see how the regions stacked up.

Region 1 - 1
Region 2 - 4
Region 3 - 4
Region 4 - 3
Region 5 - 5
Region 6 - 8 (Of the 8, 6 are in the Top 10)

Obviously we hopefully have a lot of football to be played in the few months but no one is going to be surprised if Region 6 has a lion share of the Top 25/Top 10 and there doesn't seem to be a need to cram that many traditional powers into one region.

Do regions really matter. If you win your conference, you're in the playoff. If your a 1 loss team, your SOS/SOR and region will appropriately rank you. If all at-large bids go to Region 6, so be it.

crufootball

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Quote from: FANOFD3 on August 18, 2021, 02:05:58 PM
Quote from: crufootball on August 18, 2021, 12:54:40 PM
With the Top 25 coming out I had to take a look and see how the regions stacked up.

Region 1 - 1
Region 2 - 4
Region 3 - 4
Region 4 - 3
Region 5 - 5
Region 6 - 8 (Of the 8, 6 are in the Top 10)

Obviously we hopefully have a lot of football to be played in the few months but no one is going to be surprised if Region 6 has a lion share of the Top 25/Top 10 and there doesn't seem to be a need to cram that many traditional powers into one region.

Do regions really matter. If you win your conference, you're in the playoff. If your a 1 loss team, your SOS/SOR and region will appropriately rank you. If all at-large bids go to Region 6, so be it.

I would say they matter even more because of automatic playoff criteria, with only 5 at large spots any thing to hold up your team is concerning.

Another thing that Region 6 has, at least by 2019 standards, is the 3 best conferences in the country, so the 2nd best team, heck even the 3rd place team in those conferences is usually very solid but only one team per region is going to up for debate at any given time so while it is true that all at large bids could come from Region 6 I won't blame teams for being nervous.

Also I think there is going to be a lot of debate on who truly the best in Region 6 is because there will be very little crossover games between the members of that region since we are so far apart from one another.

Either way I just hope we get to have this debate and that COVID doesn't steal another season from the players, I know I will be here next year but there are many players who won't be.

hazzben

Quote from: FANOFD3 on August 18, 2021, 02:05:58 PM
Quote from: crufootball on August 18, 2021, 12:54:40 PM
With the Top 25 coming out I had to take a look and see how the regions stacked up.

Region 1 - 1
Region 2 - 4
Region 3 - 4
Region 4 - 3
Region 5 - 5
Region 6 - 8 (Of the 8, 6 are in the Top 10)

Obviously we hopefully have a lot of football to be played in the few months but no one is going to be surprised if Region 6 has a lion share of the Top 25/Top 10 and there doesn't seem to be a need to cram that many traditional powers into one region.

Do regions really matter. If you win your conference, you're in the playoff. If your a 1 loss team, your SOS/SOR and region will appropriately rank you. If all at-large bids go to Region 6, so be it.

It matters because Regional Rankings are a criteria, both for Pool C, but also affect seeding. With additional regions, the number of teams ranked in each region will be reduced to 8 teams. But in Region 6, there are both more teams/conferences, and potentially much more depth at the top.

Put another way, all signs point to the hypothetical "team 9" in Region 6, being a really good team that would likely be ranked in almost any other region.

crufootball

The ball never stops bouncing as Southwestern just announced they were joining the SAA in football effective 2023.

I knew it would never happen but I was actually hoping at some point Trinity who join the ASC so at least all the football playing D3 members in Texas would be in the same conference.

Ron Boerger

Quote from: hazzben on August 19, 2021, 10:24:43 AM

It matters because Regional Rankings are a criteria, both for Pool C, but also affect seeding. With additional regions, the number of teams ranked in each region will be reduced to 8 teams. But in Region 6, there are both more teams/conferences, and potentially much more depth at the top.

Put another way, all signs point to the hypothetical "team 9" in Region 6, being a really good team that would likely be ranked in almost any other region.

Ah, do we know this for a fact?   In at least some other sports with unbalanced regions the number of ranked teams differs between regions.

crufootball

Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 19, 2021, 04:23:42 PM
Quote from: hazzben on August 19, 2021, 10:24:43 AM

It matters because Regional Rankings are a criteria, both for Pool C, but also affect seeding. With additional regions, the number of teams ranked in each region will be reduced to 8 teams. But in Region 6, there are both more teams/conferences, and potentially much more depth at the top.

Put another way, all signs point to the hypothetical "team 9" in Region 6, being a really good team that would likely be ranked in almost any other region.

Ah, do we know this for a fact?   In at least some other sports with unbalanced regions the number of ranked teams differs between regions.

When you say unbalanced, are you talking about quantity or perceived quality? Does the new layout qualify as unbalance in terms of quantity, it isn't prefect but if you squint they aren't that off in terms of numbers. 

wabashcpa

Excellent work.  The absence of teams in the western part of the country (aside from the coast) is glaring.

Inkblot

Quote from: crufootball on August 19, 2021, 04:04:58 PM
The ball never stops bouncing as Southwestern just announced they were joining the SAA in football effective 2023.

I knew it would never happen but I was actually hoping at some point Trinity who join the ASC so at least all the football playing D3 members in Texas would be in the same conference.

So... switching places with Austin?
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