2019 Pool C

Started by MRMIKESMITH, October 21, 2019, 03:03:33 PM

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USee

It seems likely that one of the following will not make the field:

A 1-loss OAC runner-up
A 1-Loss MIAC runner-up
A 1-loss CCIW runner-up

I am not sure that has ever happened. Certainly a 1-loss runner up from any of those conferences were shoe-ins to make the field. It's not because of a conspiracy, it's really because we have the fewest number of Pool C teams ever and a strong year. Now if Bethel and JCU lose on Saturday and NCC gets in, all will be right with the world.

FCGrizzliesGrad

There was a correction made... Hope is now ahead of John Carroll in the north rankings. Ultimately shouldn't affect the order since Hope is in Pool A but puts a little bit more breathing room between North Central and John Carroll to be 1st at the table right?
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 14, 2019, 12:55:49 AM
For the late night crowd:
https://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2019/first-projected-bracket

I completely understand the NCAA selection criteria and the travel restrictions which governs the bracket, but at first glance this seems really lopsided.

The left half of that bracket is MHB and no one else.
Upper right is Mount and a bunch of 'meh'.
The lower right bracket is stacked with UWW, SJU, Wheaton and NCC.  In my opinion all four of those are 'semi-final' quality.

Hopefully the bracket gets spread out a bit better than this.
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Quote from: HScoach on November 14, 2019, 08:19:28 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 14, 2019, 12:55:49 AM
For the late night crowd:
https://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2019/first-projected-bracket

I completely understand the NCAA selection criteria and the travel restrictions which governs the bracket, but at first glance this seems really lopsided.

The left half of that bracket is MHB and no one else.
Upper right is Mount and a bunch of 'meh'.
The lower right bracket is stacked with UWW, SJU, Wheaton and NCC.  In my opinion all four of those are 'semi-final' quality.

Hopefully the bracket gets spread out a bit better than this.

I agree. I hope this isn't what the bracket ends up looking like.

Baldini

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 14, 2019, 12:55:49 AM
For the late night crowd:
https://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2019/first-projected-bracket

At first glance I would guess that bracket was designed by a Wabash Alumnus.  ;D

ncc_fan

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Why would NCC host Wartburg in round 1 given that Wartburg came off the Pool C board first?  Don't the same criteria determine seedings?

USee

always my favorite time of the year and projecting the field is a challenging excercise. The D3.com team is usually pretty accurate with these things and their track record of projections is strong. I do think this could end up being very close to the bracket that comes out.

I would love to see a little more process around the 1 seed decision than "It seems reasonable at this point to give Salisbury the top seed in a bracket of easternmost schools". If the committee, after picking the field, just looks at the map to group the top 8 teams, this bracket may well be the result. If they look at the field and pick the top 4 deserving seeds followed by the next 4 and THEN group them geographically, I would think the result would be very different.

USee

And are you guys (d3.com staff) your bracket, which includes Wabash @Redlands, has no bias at all baked in? (Wally we see you out there in San Bernandino!)  8-)

crufootball

Quote from: HScoach on November 14, 2019, 08:19:28 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 14, 2019, 12:55:49 AM
For the late night crowd:
https://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2019/first-projected-bracket

I completely understand the NCAA selection criteria and the travel restrictions which governs the bracket, but at first glance this seems really lopsided.

The left half of that bracket is MHB and no one else.
Upper right is Mount and a bunch of 'meh'.
The lower right bracket is stacked with UWW, SJU, Wheaton and NCC.  In my opinion all four of those are 'semi-final' quality.

Hopefully the bracket gets spread out a bit better than this.

Prehaps I am bias....no I am bias, but when do you look at the bracket and not think one portion of the bracket looks lopsided?

Baldini

I still like my bracket better. If they are going to have 2 flight anyways, they should be to breakup the injustice of a Berry-Huntingdon first round matchup. IMO 

1.) Mount Union vs. SUNY-Maritime, Hope vs. Central
2.) Wesley vs. Susquehanna, Bridgewater vs. CWR

1.) Muhlenberg vs. NEWMAC winner, Delaware Valley vs. Brockport
2.) Salisbury vs. Framingham St., Union vs. Western New England

1.) Mary Hardin-Baylor vs. Huntingdon, North Central vs. Hanover
2.) Chapman vs. Linfield, Redlands vs. Berry

1.) UW-Whitewater vs. Monmouth/St. Norbert, Bethel/John Carroll/Wartburg vs. Aurora
2.) Wheaton vs. Wabash, St. John's vs Martin Luther College

MRMIKESMITH

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Quote from: crufootball on November 14, 2019, 09:39:59 AM
Quote from: HScoach on November 14, 2019, 08:19:28 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 14, 2019, 12:55:49 AM
For the late night crowd:
https://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2019/first-projected-bracket

I completely understand the NCAA selection criteria and the travel restrictions which governs the bracket, but at first glance this seems really lopsided.

The left half of that bracket is MHB and no one else.
Upper right is Mount and a bunch of 'meh'.
The lower right bracket is stacked with UWW, SJU, Wheaton and NCC.  In my opinion all four of those are 'semi-final' quality.

Hopefully the bracket gets spread out a bit better than this.

Prehaps I am bias....no I am bias, but when do you look at the bracket and not think one portion of the bracket looks lopsided?

Although I'm enthused as a fan of Salisbury how the projected bracket was setup, which was a huge surprise to me. I do feel that the bracket is somewhat lopsided, but as mentioned the brackets are "always" lopsided in one way or another. The tough teams in the midwest and West/South will always somehow mesh. It's the foundation of DIII football and how much funds we received. 


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Quote from: Baldini on November 14, 2019, 09:14:06 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 14, 2019, 12:55:49 AM
For the late night crowd:
https://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2019/first-projected-bracket

At first glance I would guess that bracket was designed by a Wabash Alumnus.  ;D

Greg did the selections and I do the bracketing, so not quite. :)
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hazzben

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 14, 2019, 12:55:49 AM
For the late night crowd:
https://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2019/first-projected-bracket

Thanks for all the hard work on this. I don't like the result, but given the broken SOS formula in play, I can't argue with how you came up with this.