2019 Pool C

[Baldini]

Biggest news for Pool C today is that the WIAC is probably a one bid league this year?

[Mr. Ypsi]

Barring upsets in the last two weeks, are the #1 seeds now UMU, UMHB, UWW, ... and Wheaton?

[02 Warhawk]

Barring upsets in the last two weeks, are the #1 seeds now UMU, UMHB, UWW, ... and Wheaton?

Ithaca, Muhlenberg?

A true East team maybe?

[MonroviaCat]

Barring upsets in the last two weeks, are the #1 seeds now UMU, UMHB, UWW, ... and Wheaton?

Ithaca, Muhlenberg?

A true East team maybe?

Ithica lost.

[02 Warhawk]

Barring upsets in the last two weeks, are the #1 seeds now UMU, UMHB, UWW, ... and Wheaton?

Ithaca, Muhlenberg?

A true East team maybe?

Ithica lost.

Oh snap. Very interesting day in D3 before the regional rankings come out.

[wally_wabash]

Barring upsets in the last two weeks, are the #1 seeds now UMU, UMHB, UWW, ... and Wheaton?

Pretty big day for Salisbury in the race for a #1 seed as well.  Oshkosh wins, their chief competition for the top ranking in the East (Ithaca and Cortland) both lose. 

[USee]

With the carnage in the West, could be a small chance Monmouth sneaks into the bottom of the RR, which would be big for Wheaton. The Thunder look like they will be battling Salisbury for the final #1 seed. There will be a sizable SOS difference between the two (both will come down over the next 2 weeks) and Wheaton is now 2-0 vs RRO with Salibury 1-0. Oshkosh winning helps them and if the Titans pull off a massive upset in week 11, they would likely appear in the final west rankings which would be huge for Salisbury.

Things are heating up.

[Inkblot]

(This isn't technically about Pool C, but it has a bearing on it...)

Rundown of the Pool A races with two weeks to go:

ARC: Wartburg can clinch next week by beating Central; Central can clinch by winning out.
ASC: Winner of Texas Lutheran at Mary Hardin–Baylor next week will clinch.
Centennial: Muhlenberg has it as long as they don't lose out.
CCIW: Wheaton has it as long as they don't lose out.
CCC: Western New England has it as long as they don't lose out.
ECFC: SUNY Maritime has CLINCHED.
Empire 8: Brockport has it as long as they don't lose out.
HCAC: Winner of Hanover at Rose–Hulman next week will clinch.
Liberty: Union has CLINCHED.
MASCAC: Framingham State can clinch next week by beating Bridgewater State; Bridgewater State can clinch by winning out.
MIAA: Hope has it as long as they don't lose out.
MAC: Delaware Valley has CLINCHED.
MWC: Monmouth has clinched the South and will meet the winner of next week's St. Norbert at Lake Forest game for the title.
MIAC: St. John's can clinch next week with a win; a loss opens the door for Bethel and St. Thomas.
NEWMAC: MIT gets it if they win out; WPI needs MIT to lose; Springfield needs WPI to lose.
NJAC: Salisbury has it as long as they don't lose out.
NCAC: Wabash gets it if they win out; Denison needs Wabash to lose. Could get complicated.
NACC: Aurora has it as long as they don't lose out.
NWC: Linfield can clinch next week by beating Whitworth; Whitworth can clinch by winning out.
OAC: Mount Union has it as long as they don't lose out.
ODAC: Winner of Randolph–Macon at Bridgewater next week will clinch.
PAC: Case Western Reserve has it as long as they don't lose out.
SAA: Birmingham–Southern gets it if they win out; Berry needs Birmingham–Southern to lose; Trinity needs Berry to lose.
SCIAC: Chapman has it as long as they don't lose out.
UMAC: Martin Luther has it as long as they don't lose out.
USA South: Huntingdon has it as long as they don't lose out.
WIAC: UW Whitewater gets it if they beat UW Oshkosh in two weeks; UW Oshkosh gets it if they win out.

[Pat Coleman]

Confirmed Del Val has clinched.

[hazzben]

With the carnage in the West, could be a small chance Monmouth sneaks into the bottom of the RR, which would be big for Wheaton. The Thunder look like they will be battling Salisbury for the final #1 seed. There will be a sizable SOS difference between the two (both will come down over the next 2 weeks) and Wheaton is now 2-0 vs RRO with Salibury 1-0. Oshkosh winning helps them and if the Titans pull off a massive upset in week 11, they would likely appear in the final west rankings which would be huge for Salisbury.

Things are heating up.

The bottom of the West will be interesting for sure. Central beating Wartburg would shake things up. GAC beating UST would as well. 

[MonroviaCat]

With the carnage in the West, could be a small chance Monmouth sneaks into the bottom of the RR, which would be big for Wheaton. The Thunder look like they will be battling Salisbury for the final #1 seed. There will be a sizable SOS difference between the two (both will come down over the next 2 weeks) and Wheaton is now 2-0 vs RRO with Salibury 1-0. Oshkosh winning helps them and if the Titans pull off a massive upset in week 11, they would likely appear in the final west rankings which would be huge for Salisbury.

Things are heating up.

The bottom of the West will be interesting for sure. Central beating Wartburg would shake things up. GAC beating UST would as well.

I would even argue that Pacific beating Puget sound has an impact--with Plateville losing, there is a chance that UPS (had they won) sneaks into the rankings which would help Redlands  (though Platteville's loss helps Redlands anyway)...

[USee]

With the carnage in the West, could be a small chance Monmouth sneaks into the bottom of the RR, which would be big for Wheaton. The Thunder look like they will be battling Salisbury for the final #1 seed. There will be a sizable SOS difference between the two (both will come down over the next 2 weeks) and Wheaton is now 2-0 vs RRO with Salibury 1-0. Oshkosh winning helps them and if the Titans pull off a massive upset in week 11, they would likely appear in the final west rankings which would be huge for Salisbury.

Things are heating up.

If UWO beats UWW in week 11, UWW drops from the conversation for a 1 seed and Salisbury and Wheaton would likely join UMHB and UMU as 1 seeds. If UWW wins out, UWO probably (big if here) doesn't stay ranked with 3 losses and Salisbury ends up 1-0 vs RRO. Wheaton will be 2-0 if WashU stays ranked and a chance at 3-0 if Monmouth, with 2 losses, sneaks into the bottom of the West. The other team in the weeds here is Muhlenberg but their SOS and RRO results will be significantly behind Wheaton and Salisbury while they would have a playoff appearance from last year that the other two won't have. It would all come down to what the committee values as criteria. Lots of room for subjective results here.

On the Pool C front, Cortland and Ithaca's losses muddies the water as they are both now a 1 loss team in the Pool C discussion. They play each other in week 11 so one will be out and the other in for the discussion purposes. Susquehana, Wesley, Bethel, NCC, Redlands and OAC #2 are the other 6 teams currently in the mix for 5 spots. If TLU upsets MHB that adds another.

[hazzben]

GAC v. UST this Saturday is big for Wheaton, SJU, and Bethel. If GAC wins they would be a 2 loss team with losses only to RRO. Definitely above Monmouth. Also a boost to SJU and Bethel's resume. A UST win means they might be ranked at the bottom of the West, especially if they pulled off the W against Bethel. At which point both UST and Bethel have two losses and may be above Monmouth.

I think Wheaton is a worthy 1 seed. But not sure how likely getting Monmouth as another RRO is for them. Also need to hope Central doesn't beat Wartburg. Since they'd both get ranked with one loss, where at two losses Central is borderline.

[MonroviaCat]

If Pomona had beat Chapman last night and Taken the pool A (assuming finish in 3 way tie), it would have been fascinating to see what the committee did with Chapman and Redlands (each would have been 1 loss with wins over RRO).  Could have created a scenario where the SCIAC could have potentially had 3 playoff teams....alas, Pomona fell short. 

[wally_wabash]

Monmouth is a curious case.  On the one hand, #1 SOS! How great is that, right?!  Monmouth's SOS is bolstered by Grinnell's decision to not play the full season.  Not only does Monmouth not have to take Grinnell's likely 0-10 record in their SOS, they don't even have to take Grinnell's 0-3 as their scheduled game was never played.  They were noncompetitive in their two games against ranked teams.  I'm not sure I would be voting them in the top 10 of the West region, but certainly yesterday's carnage gets them in the conversation. 

If Pomona had beat Chapman last night and Taken the pool A (assuming finish in 3 way tie), it would have been fascinating to see what the committee did with Chapman and Redlands (each would have been 1 loss with wins over RRO).  Could have created a scenario where the SCIAC could have potentially had 3 playoff teams....alas, Pomona fell short. 

I think Pomona beating Chapman and maybe claiming that conference's auto bid (I'm not sure anybody has confirmed this would have been the case) would have been much more likely to turn the SCIAC into a one bid league than it would have a three bid league.