Conference Preseason Polls

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Handy checklist with links to the posts in this thread.

AEC
AMCC
ARC
*ASC
C2C
CC
CCC
CCS
CCIW
CSAC
CUNYAC
E8
GNAC
HCAC
Land
LEC
LL
MAC:C
MAC:F
MASCAC
MIAA
MIAC
MWC
NAC
NACC
NCAC
*NECC
NESCAC
*NEWMAC
NJAC
NWC
OAC
ODAC
PAC
*SAA
SCAC
SCIAC
Sky
SLIAC
SUNYAC
*UAA
UEC
UMAC
USAC
WIAC

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

https://www.neccathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2022-23/releases/poll

1. Mitchell College- 9 (3)
2. Eastern Nazarene College- 7 (1)
3. New England Col. – 5
4. Lesley- 3

Can somebody better at math figure out how these votes were tabulated? This doesn't seem to add up.

[CNU85]

https://www.neccathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2022-23/releases/poll

1. Mitchell College- 9 (3)
2. Eastern Nazarene College- 7 (1)
3. New England Col. – 5
4. Lesley- 3

Can somebody better at math figure out how these votes were tabulated? This doesn't seem to add up.

That does look strange. The only way I made it work doesn't make any sense at all.

Mitchell -3,3,3
East. Naz - 3,2,2
N.E - 2,2,1
Lesley - 1,1,1

But wouldn't this mean they only voted on a 1-3 scale? I'm confused

[Caz Bombers]

https://www.neccathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2022-23/releases/poll

1. Mitchell College- 9 (3)
2. Eastern Nazarene College- 7 (1)
3. New England Col. – 5
4. Lesley- 3

Can somebody better at math figure out how these votes were tabulated? This doesn't seem to add up.

That does look strange. The only way I made it work doesn't make any sense at all.

Mitchell -3,3,3
East. Naz - 3,2,2
N.E - 2,2,1
Lesley - 1,1,1

But wouldn't this mean they only voted on a 1-3 scale? I'm confused

exactly. Most preseason coaches polls you don't rank your own team, you rank everyone else.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

https://www.neccathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2022-23/releases/poll

1. Mitchell College- 9 (3)
2. Eastern Nazarene College- 7 (1)
3. New England Col. – 5
4. Lesley- 3

Can somebody better at math figure out how these votes were tabulated? This doesn't seem to add up.

That does look strange. The only way I made it work doesn't make any sense at all.

Mitchell -3,3,3
East. Naz - 3,2,2
N.E - 2,2,1
Lesley - 1,1,1

But wouldn't this mean they only voted on a 1-3 scale? I'm confused

exactly. Most preseason coaches polls you don't rank your own team, you rank everyone else.

I've not heard of that before. Lots that don't allow you to vote yourself #1.

[ziggy]

The way the MIAA coaches poll works is each coach submits a ranking of 1-7, omitting themselves. Then it works like the top 25 poll where first place vote gets 7 points, second is six points,..., one point for seventh place.
Here is last year's poll: https://www.miaa.org/sports/mbkb/2021-22/releases/PreseasonPoll
So Trine's 49 points last year made them a "unanimous" number one, despite Calvin getting one first place vote because Brooks Miller would have been submitting a ballot with everyone but Trine listed.

[BaboNation]

Interestingly enough the NECC had the exact vote tabulations in the 2021-2022 season, thought the order of teams were different.  Maybe it's not so much of an oddity if you are only ranking 4 teams, can't vote for yourself, and there's a clear 4th place team.  But yeah, the numbers???

https://www.neccathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2021-22/releases/preseasonpoll

[ronk]

Mitchell gets 3 1st place votes x 3 = 9
Eastern gets 1 1st and 2 secs = 7
New England gets 2 secs and a 3rd = 5
Lesley gets all 3 3rds = 3

[y_jack_lok]

SLIAC:

1) Fontbonne
2) Webster
3) Eureka
4) Blackburn
5) Principia
6) Westminster
7) Greenville
8) Spalding

https://www.sliac.org/sports/mbkb/2022-23/releases/20221024i3fpbu?fbclid=IwAR0Y9YLMQ6T1OHmtMwij2rN6tFIGX3uElk5dKQ6eX9_B2poldZqxeynoMYc

[CNU85]

https://www.neccathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2022-23/releases/poll

1. Mitchell College- 9 (3)
2. Eastern Nazarene College- 7 (1)
3. New England Col. – 5
4. Lesley- 3

Can somebody better at math figure out how these votes were tabulated? This doesn't seem to add up.

That does look strange. The only way I made it work doesn't make any sense at all.

Mitchell -3,3,3
East. Naz - 3,2,2
N.E - 2,2,1
Lesley - 1,1,1

But wouldn't this mean they only voted on a 1-3 scale? I'm confused

exactly. Most preseason coaches polls you don't rank your own team, you rank everyone else.

Well that does indeed make sense. I always thought coaches couldn't vote for themselves as #1. But I think it's better to just not allow to vote for yourself at all. Thanks for that clarification. Like Ryan, I had not heard that before with the polls I pay attention to (which isn't many)

[EagleATL]

American Rivers Conference

Rank    School (1st)  Points
1.     Dubuque (5)  61
2.     Wartburg (3)  50
t-3.   Buena Vista (1)  44
t-3.   Nebraska Wesleyan  44
5.     Loras  41
6.     Coe  35
7.     Simpson  21
8.     Central  16
9.     Luther  12

https://rollrivers.com/news/2022/9/26/dubuque-spartans-tabbed-american-rivers-conference-mens-basketball-preseason-front-runner.aspx

[EagleATL]

2022-23 HCAC Men's Basketball Preseason Poll
1.   Hanover College (8)   80
2.   Transylvania University (2)   73
3.   Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology   61
4.   Franklin College   49
5.   Anderson University   43
6.   Defiance College   38
7.   Mount St. Joseph University   34
8.   Earlham College   32
9.   Manchester University   28
10.   Bluffton University   12

https://heartlandconf.org/news/2022/10/24/2022-23-mens-basketball-preseason-poll.aspx

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

https://www.neccathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2022-23/releases/poll

1. Mitchell College- 9 (3)
2. Eastern Nazarene College- 7 (1)
3. New England Col. – 5
4. Lesley- 3

Can somebody better at math figure out how these votes were tabulated? This doesn't seem to add up.

That does look strange. The only way I made it work doesn't make any sense at all.

Mitchell -3,3,3
East. Naz - 3,2,2
N.E - 2,2,1
Lesley - 1,1,1

But wouldn't this mean they only voted on a 1-3 scale? I'm confused

exactly. Most preseason coaches polls you don't rank your own team, you rank everyone else.

Well that does indeed make sense. I always thought coaches couldn't vote for themselves as #1. But I think it's better to just not allow to vote for yourself at all. Thanks for that clarification. Like Ryan, I had not heard that before with the polls I pay attention to (which isn't many)

My assumption of the vote

Mitchell voted: ENC, NEC, Lesley
ENC voted: Mitchell, NEC, Lesley
NEC voted: Mitchell, ENC, Lesley
Lesley voted: Mitchell, ENC, NEC

That gives Mitchell their 3x3=9, ENC 3+2x2=7, NEC 2x2+1=5, Lesley 3x1=3

[Greek Tragedy]

https://cciw.org/news/2022/10/26/illinois-wesleyan-tops-preseason-cciw-mens-basketball-poll.aspx

1. IWU
2. NCC
3T. Elmhurst
3T. Wheaton
5. Millikin
6. Augie
7. NPU
8. Carthage
9. Carroll

[Greek Tragedy]

https://cccathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2022-23/releases/202223MBBPoll

1. Nichols
2. Suffolk
T3. Endicott
T3. W NE
5. Salve Regina
6. Roger Williams
7. Gordon
8. Wentworth
9. U of NE
10. Curry