2020 NCAA Tournament

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Rofrog


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MBB announced hosts and times quickly even with significant changes.  NCAA using entire clock to announce WBB times and hosts.

Rofrog

they should have put William's in with Hope maybe Nescac would have had Four host sites!!!

7express

So...just my 2 cents here:

I'll give Amherst the benefit of the doubt for the first round games not having spectators because that case/decision came out the day before, so teams were already at Amherst/on the way there, too big of a hassle to move it to a different site that would allow spectators, just like Hopkins on the men side...



....However I have a BIG problem with them getting to host again and still not allow spectators.  These are sweet 16 and elite 8 games.  You have a team coming to Amherst that's traveling about 1,500 miles (Mary Hardin Baylor), and another that's traveling about 2,500 miles (George Fox).  It's unfair for those 2 teams to play in front of an empty gym with so much on the line.  If the NCAA has these restrictions on D3 instituations whether it be the 500 mile rule or the same school can't host both men's and women's games in the same around then they should have a rule in place where if they know beforehand a school won't allow spectators then they should be disqualified as a host institution.  I mean no disrespect to Amherst who deserve to host, but I'm sorry if Tufts get shafted and has to play round 1 on the road due to the Jumbos men hosting, if the Texas teams, and usually the west coast teams share a pod due to the 500 mile rule than Mary Hardin Baylor or Christopher Newport should be hosting that section.  These kids deserve better!  Very bad decision by the NCAA!

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anyone know WHEN Amherst College will make decision about spectators?  I am sure no fans from the other 3 teams will book plane tickets to Bradley International just so they MAY get into gym but most likely watch online.  Amherst should just wait again until 90 minutes before tip-off and then decide, "fans can come in".  what you do not have any fans in area?  why?

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Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 08, 2020, 05:01:06 PM
anyone know WHEN Amherst College will make decision about spectators?  I am sure no fans from the other 3 teams will book plane tickets to Bradley International just so they MAY get into gym but most likely watch online.  Amherst should just wait again until 90 minutes before tip-off and then decide, "fans can come in".  what you do not have any fans in area?  why?

We announced it fairly promptly on the front page of D3hoops.com.
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Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 08, 2020, 05:01:06 PM
anyone know WHEN Amherst College will make decision about spectators?  I am sure no fans from the other 3 teams will book plane tickets to Bradley International just so they MAY get into gym but most likely watch online.  Amherst should just wait again until 90 minutes before tip-off and then decide, "fans can come in".  what you do not have any fans in area?  why?

A lot more support for the CNU men's team then, I guess.
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 08, 2020, 05:08:01 PM
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 08, 2020, 05:01:06 PM
anyone know WHEN Amherst College will make decision about spectators?  I am sure no fans from the other 3 teams will book plane tickets to Bradley International just so they MAY get into gym but most likely watch online.  Amherst should just wait again until 90 minutes before tip-off and then decide, "fans can come in".  what you do not have any fans in area?  why?

We announced it fairly promptly on the front page of D3hoops.com.
I saw it right after I typed that.  great perspective from Hoopsville about other 3 teams taking stance against Amherst hosting.  gutsy of UMHB coach with that quote but true statement.  I hope NCAA executives make right decision to move host site.

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Quote from: 7express on March 08, 2020, 04:27:46 PM
So...just my 2 cents here:

I'll give Amherst the benefit of the doubt for the first round games not having spectators because that case/decision came out the day before, so teams were already at Amherst/on the way there, too big of a hassle to move it to a different site that would allow spectators, just like Hopkins on the men side...



....However I have a BIG problem with them getting to host again and still not allow spectators.  These are sweet 16 and elite 8 games.  You have a team coming to Amherst that's traveling about 1,500 miles (Mary Hardin Baylor), and another that's traveling about 2,500 miles (George Fox).  It's unfair for those 2 teams to play in front of an empty gym with so much on the line.  If the NCAA has these restrictions on D3 instituations whether it be the 500 mile rule or the same school can't host both men's and women's games in the same around then they should have a rule in place where if they know beforehand a school won't allow spectators then they should be disqualified as a host institution.  I mean no disrespect to Amherst who deserve to host, but I'm sorry if Tufts get shafted and has to play round 1 on the road due to the Jumbos men hosting, if the Texas teams, and usually the west coast teams share a pod due to the 500 mile rule than Mary Hardin Baylor or Christopher Newport should be hosting that section.  These kids deserve better!  Very bad decision by the NCAA!

Agreed! And since the CNU men are hosting their game this weekend, then the game should be in Texas or Oregon.  CNU could easily handle the women's games but let's spread the fun. This would have been a perfect time to reward a Texas or West Coast team for all the post season scheduling dues they pay.

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Quote from: CNU85 on March 09, 2020, 08:56:15 AM
Quote from: 7express on March 08, 2020, 04:27:46 PM
So...just my 2 cents here:

I'll give Amherst the benefit of the doubt for the first round games not having spectators because that case/decision came out the day before, so teams were already at Amherst/on the way there, too big of a hassle to move it to a different site that would allow spectators, just like Hopkins on the men side...



....However I have a BIG problem with them getting to host again and still not allow spectators.  These are sweet 16 and elite 8 games.  You have a team coming to Amherst that's traveling about 1,500 miles (Mary Hardin Baylor), and another that's traveling about 2,500 miles (George Fox).  It's unfair for those 2 teams to play in front of an empty gym with so much on the line.  If the NCAA has these restrictions on D3 instituations whether it be the 500 mile rule or the same school can't host both men's and women's games in the same around then they should have a rule in place where if they know beforehand a school won't allow spectators then they should be disqualified as a host institution.  I mean no disrespect to Amherst who deserve to host, but I'm sorry if Tufts get shafted and has to play round 1 on the road due to the Jumbos men hosting, if the Texas teams, and usually the west coast teams share a pod due to the 500 mile rule than Mary Hardin Baylor or Christopher Newport should be hosting that section.  These kids deserve better!  Very bad decision by the NCAA!

Agreed! And since the CNU men are hosting their game this weekend, then the game should be in Texas or Oregon.  CNU could easily handle the women's games but let's spread the fun. This would have been a perfect time to reward a Texas or West Coast team for all the post season scheduling dues they pay.

They have to decide today, though, to get all the flights done.
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CNU85

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 09, 2020, 09:03:58 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 09, 2020, 08:56:15 AM
Quote from: 7express on March 08, 2020, 04:27:46 PM
So...just my 2 cents here:

I'll give Amherst the benefit of the doubt for the first round games not having spectators because that case/decision came out the day before, so teams were already at Amherst/on the way there, too big of a hassle to move it to a different site that would allow spectators, just like Hopkins on the men side...



....However I have a BIG problem with them getting to host again and still not allow spectators.  These are sweet 16 and elite 8 games.  You have a team coming to Amherst that's traveling about 1,500 miles (Mary Hardin Baylor), and another that's traveling about 2,500 miles (George Fox).  It's unfair for those 2 teams to play in front of an empty gym with so much on the line.  If the NCAA has these restrictions on D3 instituations whether it be the 500 mile rule or the same school can't host both men's and women's games in the same around then they should have a rule in place where if they know beforehand a school won't allow spectators then they should be disqualified as a host institution.  I mean no disrespect to Amherst who deserve to host, but I'm sorry if Tufts get shafted and has to play round 1 on the road due to the Jumbos men hosting, if the Texas teams, and usually the west coast teams share a pod due to the 500 mile rule than Mary Hardin Baylor or Christopher Newport should be hosting that section.  These kids deserve better!  Very bad decision by the NCAA!

Agreed! And since the CNU men are hosting their game this weekend, then the game should be in Texas or Oregon.  CNU could easily handle the women's games but let's spread the fun. This would have been a perfect time to reward a Texas or West Coast team for all the post season scheduling dues they pay.

They have to decide today, though, to get all the flights done.

Seems like they decided yesterday. Unless you are saying they are rethinking...which I doubt.

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Quote from: CNU85 on March 09, 2020, 01:48:06 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 09, 2020, 09:03:58 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 09, 2020, 08:56:15 AM
Quote from: 7express on March 08, 2020, 04:27:46 PM
So...just my 2 cents here:

I'll give Amherst the benefit of the doubt for the first round games not having spectators because that case/decision came out the day before, so teams were already at Amherst/on the way there, too big of a hassle to move it to a different site that would allow spectators, just like Hopkins on the men side...



....However I have a BIG problem with them getting to host again and still not allow spectators.  These are sweet 16 and elite 8 games.  You have a team coming to Amherst that's traveling about 1,500 miles (Mary Hardin Baylor), and another that's traveling about 2,500 miles (George Fox).  It's unfair for those 2 teams to play in front of an empty gym with so much on the line.  If the NCAA has these restrictions on D3 instituations whether it be the 500 mile rule or the same school can't host both men's and women's games in the same around then they should have a rule in place where if they know beforehand a school won't allow spectators then they should be disqualified as a host institution.  I mean no disrespect to Amherst who deserve to host, but I'm sorry if Tufts get shafted and has to play round 1 on the road due to the Jumbos men hosting, if the Texas teams, and usually the west coast teams share a pod due to the 500 mile rule than Mary Hardin Baylor or Christopher Newport should be hosting that section.  These kids deserve better!  Very bad decision by the NCAA!

Agreed! And since the CNU men are hosting their game this weekend, then the game should be in Texas or Oregon.  CNU could easily handle the women's games but let's spread the fun. This would have been a perfect time to reward a Texas or West Coast team for all the post season scheduling dues they pay.

They have to decide today, though, to get all the flights done.

Seems like they decided yesterday. Unless you are saying they are rethinking...which I doubt.

As we reported on Hoopsville (I thought you listened to the show!), there are meetings taking place today (Monday) to discuss this situation.

There are likely several options on the table:
- keep it at Amherst as it is
- keep Amherst as the host, but move it to a facility off-campus so fans can attend (even another institution nearby)
- move the games to another one of the hosts
--- CNU an option, but likely would mean moving the games to Saturday/Sunday because of the men's schedule (would also have to be a one-time, emergency allowance out of the "no double-hosting at one school" rule)
--- Move it to either UMHB or George Fox

I am told the meetings with at least some individuals involved was moved from this morning to this afternoon. That meeting has not taken place as of yet. I know other meetings (conference calls) had been going on this morning, but I am not aware of what decisions or conversations specifically took place.
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