2021 D3 Men's Soccer National Perspective

[paclassic89]

Trinity is like this practically every season.  And then they get to the tourney and can't get the job done.  Just the 1 title in '03

[Saint of Old]

Trinity is like this practically every season.  And then they get to the tourney and can't get the job done.  Just the 1 title in '03

Trinity is class man.
Dont get it twisted.
I think that one title in 03 was a perfect title as well.
It looks easy to dance year after year after year playing good football year in year out.

Only 8-9 teams have climbed the mountain in the past quarter century.  Of those Only 4or so drop class football year in year out for the past 2 decades.

Much respect to them Trinity boyz!

[PaulNewman]

Totally agree about Trinity.  95% of programs would give their right arm to always make the NCAA tourney with frequent Elite 8 and Sweet 16 appearances.  The idea that you suck if you don't get to the Final Four every year is just absurd.

Meanwhile, the upsets keep coming.  Loras beats Dubuque, and with 10 min left Trine is up 1-0 on KZoo.

[paclassic89]

Which makes it even crazier to say that Tufts and Trinity should be #1 and #2 in a league of their own with no one close and omit Messiah, one of the select few teams that consistently wins NCAA titles.

And no one said that Trinity sucked lmao.  What an absurd statement

[PaulNewman]

Which makes it even crazier to say that Tufts and Trinity should be #1 and #2 in a league of their own with no one close and omit Messiah, one of the select few teams that consistently wins NCAA titles.

And no one said that Trinity sucked lmao.  What an absurd statement

Sorry you misunderstood.  That was just a nod to all the upsets.  Wasn't endorsing any extra pedigree for Tufts and Trinity...they just avoided losing in the past 3-4 days.  I was exaggerating to highlight that a bunch of teams ranked like #3 thru #15 lost.

And someone reacted to your Trinity comment before I did. 

[Mr.Right]

Halftime of the Skyline Conference men's championship game

Mount St. Vincent still up 1-0 over Manhattanville after 45 minutes.

The big story is that both Mount St. Vincent and Manhattanville are playing 10 on 10 after Mount St. Vincent's Dennis Andino and Manhattanville's Sebastian Testa both got red cards in the 35th minute.  One player will be suspended for the first round of the NCAA DIII tournament, while the other will be suspended for the first game next season.

Update-- Just looked at the play that drew the red cards.  According to the Manhattanville commentator, both players that got the red cards threw punches at each other.  That is violent conduct, which carries at least multiple game suspensions of at least 2 games for each player.

1:17 PM Eastern update-- Mount St. Vincent now up 2-0 over Manhattanville on a goal from Ian Lamas in the 51st minute.

lol only in the Skyline Deiscanton only in the Skyline....

[Mr.Right]

St. Joseph's (Maine) takes down Norwich in the second overtime 1-0 to get the GNAC AQ this year.  I didn't catch the play that led up to the goal as I was trying to catch the score on Conn vs. Colby. I tuned in late because I had other things going on, but in the brief time I watched, Norwich has St. Joe's pinned in their own end for the 2 overtime periods. I'm guessing that based on the overall shots (24-7 in favor of Norwich), that's probably the way it played our the majority of the game.

Mr. Right posted earlier this week that he thought Norwich would end up with the GNAC AQ and I didn't reply because honestly I thought Norwich had too much offense for St. Joe's to overcome.  I'm happy I was wrong there.  I imagine St. Joe's will get a NESCAC team in the first round and that could be the end of things, but I commend Coach Pike and his boys on getting to the NCAA tournament.

I saw the goal...IN THIS LEAGUE you can re-watch the games.....It is like what does Norwich have to do to get by this St.Joe's...They absolutely had St.Joe's pinned and the goal was caused by a tired Norwich defender not properly tracking the St.Joe's player that made the run to get into position in the box to score. The defender was caught and the striker made him pay. That being said the GK did not make an effort or was very slow to react to the shot. Tough loss for Norwich as I was honestly pulling for them to get into the NCAA's. I thought they might surprise an unsuspecting team in the NCAA 1st Round but hey St.Joe's is organized and like Colby can absorb pressure.

[deiscanton]

Halftime of the Skyline Conference men's championship game

Mount St. Vincent still up 1-0 over Manhattanville after 45 minutes.

The big story is that both Mount St. Vincent and Manhattanville are playing 10 on 10 after Mount St. Vincent's Dennis Andino and Manhattanville's Sebastian Testa both got red cards in the 35th minute.  One player will be suspended for the first round of the NCAA DIII tournament, while the other will be suspended for the first game next season.

Update-- Just looked at the play that drew the red cards.  According to the Manhattanville commentator, both players that got the red cards threw punches at each other.  That is violent conduct, which carries at least multiple game suspensions of at least 2 games for each player.

1:17 PM Eastern update-- Mount St. Vincent now up 2-0 over Manhattanville on a goal from Ian Lamas in the 51st minute.

lol only in the Skyline Deiscanton only in the Skyline....

Under the NCAA 2020-2021 Soccer Rules book, throwing punches at a player is classified as fighting, and getting a red card for fighting carries with it a 2 game suspension for the first offense.  Dennis Andino of Mount St. Vincent will have to sit out the first round of the NCAAs as well as the second round if Mount St. Vincent pulls off a "giant killing" upset in Round 1.  Otherwise, it carries over to next season and the second game of the suspension gets served as the first regularly scheduled game of next season.  As for Manhattanville's Sebastian Testa, he will have to sit out the first 2 regular season games next season.

[Mr.Right]

Gotcha....Did the camera stay on it or turn away...It gets me ready for Men's Hockey although you do nearly see the fighting like I used to as a little kid in the 80's / 90's.

[deiscanton]

Gotcha....Did the camera stay on it or turn away...It gets me ready for Men's Hockey although you do nearly see the fighting like I used to as a little kid in the 80's / 90's.

The camera initially was turning away as the referee was signaling for a foul and a free kick just before the incident happened, but the camera immediately turned to it just before the described punches happened.  The camera is not really in a close up of the players, as it is standing in a high position overseeing the players.  After the description of the incident, the camera turns away, but then turns back to see the referee give out the red cards.  After the red cards are given out, the commentator takes a break in the action.

Here is the link to the on-demand game feed-- the incident happens in the 35th minute, with 10:53 remaining in the first half.  The physicality starts revving up in the 33rd minute, so you may want to start watching from there.

Skyline MSOC Finals Nov 6 versus Mount St Vincent

Hint:  On the on-demand feed, you can set it to 1 hour and 5 minutes into the video feed, which is just about a minute before the incident happened.

[Mr.Right]

Props to you deiscanton for even being able to watch that game. The camera guy was up down left right in hard pulls and pushes. I would have vomited by the 10th minute. I am not surprised by anything anymore but that was a full on slug. We Americans do enjoy are violence just cannot look away. Looks like there was a vicious foul on the CB for Mount Saint Vincent before the play which I am guessing the other Red was for. That is a tough game to ref because it had been pretty calm the first 30 minutes and then like a flash the whole thing turns on it head. Those city refs earn their money compared to these country bumpkins that have it pretty easy from what I can tell.

[deiscanton]

Props to you deiscanton for even being able to watch that game. The camera guy was up down left right in hard pulls and pushes. I would have vomited by the 10th minute. I am not surprised by anything anymore but that was a full on slug. We Americans do enjoy are violence just cannot look away. Looks like there was a vicious foul on the CB for Mount Saint Vincent before the play which I am guessing the other Red was for. That is a tough game to ref because it had been pretty calm the first 30 minutes and then like a flash the whole thing turns on it head. Those city refs earn their money compared to these country bumpkins that have it pretty easy from what I can tell.

After watching Mount St. Vincent beat NYU via video stream back in October, I wanted, as a neutral, to see the Dolphins make the NCAA tournament.  What that in mind, I probably would have watched the Skyline title game on live stats exclusively if I had to.  However, this is an instance of people warning me to be careful about what I wish for.....

[Ejay]

Washington College is your 2021 Centennial Conference Champion after defeating Gettysburg 2-0. Will be interesting to see what the committee makes of the Bullets who finish the season 13-5-2 and with some very good ranked wins.  Of note, Gettysburg has only 1 senior so I would think they'd be a strong contender for a magical season next year.

[PaulNewman]

And surprise, surprise, Tufts goes into the tournament as the favorite...beatable but not sure who's gonna beat them.  Probably needs to be team that doesn't give a you know what...like NYU..or maybe Amherst...or maybe Babson.  One would think a NJAC would fit the bill but they have failed miserably against Tufts in recent years.

PN's Pool Cs in roughly the order they come off the board....

W&L, Amherst, Chicago, OWU, F&M, Conn Coll, St Olaf, NYU, Otterbein, Emory, Montclair, Kenyon, Rowan, North Park, Hopkins, Calvin, Middlebury


Pick 4 -- Wesleyan, MIT, Coast Guard, WPI, Vassar, Rochester, Gettysburg, GAC, CMS, Hope, Oneonta, Dubuque, Rutgers-Newark

Not a prediction, but I would probably select Wesleyan, whoever cmte ranks higher between MIT/CG/WPI, Rochester, and GAC...and I think CMS wlll be hard to keep out....and if pressed to pick most deserving I'd probably go with Gettysburg...Could also see two NEWMACs getting in.  Big question is whether cmte is willing to have five NESCACs in the tournament and five UAAs.

Looking forward to the D3soccer.com analysis.

BTW, huge congrats to Washington College!  Outstanding.

[PaulNewman]

And wow, after seeming to fall off the face of the earth, Centre is back in the tournament.

Also looking like the SLU contingent is going to partying tonight.