UAA soccer 2021

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stlawus

I have a question about yellow card accumulation.  If you pick up your 5th yellow and then get a red card due to a 2nd yellow card in that game, do you sit out 2 games or does the red card and 5th yellow suspension get served concurrently?


rolldeisroll

Quote from: blooter442 on November 06, 2021, 03:53:19 PM
Brandeis pulled out some decent results down the stretch and today capped it, even if they were out-shot and out-possessed. Below .500 is not where the program wants to be but they have a ton of young guys and I think they will only improve. Guthro kept them in a lot of games this year and could be one of the best goalies in D3. Optimistic to see what they do next year.

Brandeis showed a lot of heart these last few games down the stretch. These are tough tough games to win. This is the first win in NYU since 2014, and their win against Chicago was the first since 2002. There are plenty of stacked Judges teams in that stretch, which shows how tough these road UAA games are.

That was one of the most frustrating Brandeis seasons to watch, especially as an alum. If this team scores 15-17 goals (they scored only 11 this year), they likely have 10 wins and a Pool C bid. The way that Brandeis always qualified was to dominate these New England teams like WPI, MIT, Western New England, and then tread water in the UAA. The past 2 seasons they have done exceptionally well in the UAA, just have choked their season away early on against these New England schools. Not sure if it's a lack of heart or if the gap has truly closed in New England. I personally am rooting for Wash U to win it all this year since I feel personally victimized by Chicago from my 4 years!

blue_jays

Quote from: WUPHF on November 06, 2021, 05:04:17 PM
Quote from: blue_jays on September 30, 2021, 12:40:34 PM
Quote from: WUPHF on September 30, 2021, 11:29:44 AM
If Washington University finishes outside the Top 4, I'll buy you a beer.

Agreed on this one, WashU looks legit and I think will finish in the top 3. It's a total coin flip this year IMO of who wins it. If UChicago could score, I would put them as the favorite. But goals have proven hard to come by, so I wouldn't be surprised by any team's ascension to the top this year.

Blue Jays nailed it!

If only I could use this wisdom and prognostication for more meaningful purposes, lol

Gregory Sager

Wash U outlasts a relentless Chicago push in the second half and makes an early Sergio Rivas goal stand up to take a 1-0 win and the UAA title at Francis Olympic Field.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

deiscanton

Congratulations to the Wash U Bears.   2021 UAA Men's Soccer Champion-- AQ to NCAA DIII Men's Soccer Tournament

Final:  Wash U 1, Chicago 0

Wash U's goal was scored early-- from Sergio Rivas in the 5th minute, with the assist from Shiv Lamba.

Wash U goalkeeper Matt Martin made 7 saves to preserve the clean sheet win that clinched the UAA Men's Soccer title for Wash U.

Final stats

Chicago outshot Wash U, 14-4, and led on shots on target, 7-3.

Chicago dominated on corners, 11-0.

Chicago called for offsides 4 times while Wash U was only called for offsides once.

Wash U committed 9 fouls to Chicago's 4.

Wash U booked with 2 yellow cards late in the second half.

Wash U finishes UAA play at 12-2-1, 5-1-1 in the UAA.

Wash U finishes in first place at 16 points and a +9 goal differential in UAA play -- 2021 UAA Men's Soccer Champion and the AQ to the NCAA DIII Men's Soccer Tournament.

Chicago finishes UAA play at 12-5-1, 4-3 in the UAA-- 12 points and a +4 goal differential in UAA play.  (Tied for 2nd place on points with NYU-- Chicago defeated NYU head to head and had a better goal differential in UAA play than NYU.)












blue_jays

Welp, the UAA was exactly the bloodbath I knew it would be. The question now becomes who can make the most noise on the national scene. UChicago, WashU and Emory all have top-notch defenses that can shut down anyone. But will they be able to score enough to advance deep?

deiscanton

Quote from: stlawus on November 06, 2021, 05:44:44 PM
I have a question about yellow card accumulation.  If you pick up your 5th yellow and then get a red card due to a 2nd yellow card in that game, do you sit out 2 games or does the red card and 5th yellow suspension get served concurrently?

Normally, it is 2 games served consecutively, 1 for the yellow card accumulation, and 1 for the red card.  However, if the NYU goalkeeper had picked up a red card in the Brandeis game in addition to the yellow, Mancuso would have to sit out the next 3 games consecutively-- 1 for the yellow card accumulation, 1 for the red card, and 1 more additional game because it would have been his second red card of the season.

stlawus

I only asked because this situation applies to a SLU player.  In the first round LL playoff game a player got his 5th yellow and then later in the game got another yellow.   He was suspended for today's match but I wasn't sure if it was a 2 game suspension.

deiscanton

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Quote from: stlawus on November 06, 2021, 11:03:56 PM
I only asked because this situation applies to a SLU player.  In the first round LL playoff game a player got his 5th yellow and then later in the game got another yellow.   He was suspended for today's match but I wasn't sure if it was a 2 game suspension.

Assuming that it is the SLU player's first red card of the season, it is a 2 game suspension-- 1 for the yellow card accumulation and 1 for the red card.

That player now has 5 yellows and 1 red card.  (The red card was because the player got booked for the second time in the match.)

Update-- I have taken a look at the stats and the game in question. The player got his 5th yellow of the season vs Vassar (the first round LL tournament game) and then got booked a second time later in that same match.   The SLU player served out the first of his 2 game suspension vs RPI, which SLU won.  He now has to sit out the LL title game vs Ithaca on Sunday to complete the 2 game suspension.

deiscanton

Quote from: Falconer on November 06, 2021, 05:33:23 PM
QUOTE: "Both NYU goalkeeper Luca Mancuso and Brandeis's John Loo got their 5th yellow cards of the season today-- both cards came in the second half.

That means that Luca Mancuso will miss the first round of the NCAA tournament if the Violets get a Pool C bid.  If NYU does not get selected, then Luca Mancuso will have to sit out the first game next season due to yellow card accumulation.

Similarly, Brandeis's John Loo is also suspended for the first game next season due to yellow card accumulation."

MY COMMENT: one might think, that guys who are good enough academically to get into UAA schools would be smart enough not to do really stupid things on the soccer field. I'm sorry, but for a keeper to collect 5 Yellows in one season is just disgraceful. You can't do that with mirrors. It takes either arrogance, or stupidity, or both. In the game vs Messiah, Mancuso impressed me and didn't draw any cards. I have to wonder what he's like vs other teams.

Sometimes, unfortunately, you do not know the true measure of a person until after you see that person play in conference play.  Mancuso did not start getting carded until after UAA play began in October.  Since then, he got carded against Carnegie Mellon (1 yellow, 1 red), Wash U (1 yellow), Chicago (1 yellow), Emory (1 yellow), and Brandeis (1 yellow).  5 out of 7 UAA games-- 5 yellows, 1 red.  Just stupid.

Mr.Right


deiscanton

This afternoon, to finish Round 7, the 7th place UAA team Case Western Reserve University will play at last place Carnegie Mellon at 1:30 PM Eastern on Senior Day for the Tartans.

Wash U at least was able to play a home CCIW football game and host a UAA soccer doubleheader on the same field yesterday..... (also called by jaybird44 as a Wash U home tripleheader.)  Wonder why Carnegie Mellon couldn't do it?

Gregory Sager

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Carnegie Mellon may have game-staff limitations that prevent the school from hosting a tripleheader at two different sites (Gesling Stadium for football, CMU Soccer Field for soccer) while providing full statistical and webstreaming coverage for both. Some schools simply go without live stats and/or webstreaming at one location if they're using mutiple sites on a single day. Other schools adjust the game schedules, if opponents are agreeable, so that they can bring the full menu of online services to each contest.

Wash U doesn't have that problem, because Wash U uses Francis Olympic Field for both football and soccer.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

deiscanton

Carnegie Mellon honored graduate student Jordi Long, who could not play today due to injuries sustained after the match vs NYU, but is appearing in his final game as a Tartan today along with the seniors, by having him participate in the opening kickoff before subbing him off 3 seconds into the match.  Both Carnegie Mellon and CWRU agreed to this arrangement as a measure of sportsmanship.

Jordi Long scored the goal for Carnegie Mellon that enabled the Tartans to tie with Brandeis earlier this season.