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[RoyRike]

I think Mount Union should be on the right side of the bubble, given their resume. 16-2-2 looks really good on paper and the quality wins vs Calvin, CWRU and JCU put them just above some of the other Region VII (e.g., CWRU and JCU).

But the Region VII beating up on each other really making this year interesting. A lot of similar resumes with H2H going every which way.

[PaulNewman]

I think Mount Union should be on the right side of the bubble, given their resume. 16-2-2 looks really good on paper and the quality wins vs Calvin, CWRU and JCU put them just above some of the other Region VII (e.g., CWRU and JCU).

But the Region VII beating up on each other really making this year interesting. A lot of similar resumes with H2H going every which way.

See response on national thread.  As I noted in other thread, it may be very hard to move Mt Union above CWRU, JCU, etc (since they started the week below) because their resume didn't improve since the last ranking, so they would have to hope a team above them somehow falls below which is hard to see where that would be coming from.

[oacalum]

I agree with PN. I don't believe Mount Union will be able to jump any of Otterbein, JCU, or Case on the basis of a ranked draw this week.

[RoyRike]

Maybe I am missing something here, but I see Mount Union #3 with CWRU #4 and JCU #6?

[PaulNewman]

Maybe I am missing something here, but I see Mount Union #3 with CWRU #4 and JCU #6?

Probably looking at the wrong regional rankings...USC doesn't count...only NCAA.

[oacalum]

REGION VII - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - November 01, 2023

Rank	School	. Div. III . Record	. Div. III . SOS	. R-v-R .	. Overall . Record	. Prev. . Rank
1.	Kenyon	14-3-0	0.565	2-2-0	14-3-0	1
2.	Ohio Wesleyan	12-4-1	0.592	3-3-1	12-4-1	2
3.	Ohio Northern	11-5-2	0.590	2-4-2	11-5-2	4
4.	Case Western Reserve	8-3-3	0.597	1-2-3	8-3-3	5
5.	John Carroll	12-5-1	0.564	3-3-1	12-5-1	3
6.	Otterbein	12-2-3	0.547	2-2-2	12-2-3	6
7.	Mount Union	15-2-1	0.521	3-2-0	15-2-1	7

These are the ones that matter for the NCAA tournament.

[RoyRike]

REGION VII - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - November 01, 2023

Rank	School	. Div. III . Record	. Div. III . SOS	. R-v-R .	. Overall . Record	. Prev. . Rank
1.	Kenyon	14-3-0	0.565	2-2-0	14-3-0	1
2.	Ohio Wesleyan	12-4-1	0.592	3-3-1	12-4-1	2
3.	Ohio Northern	11-5-2	0.590	2-4-2	11-5-2	4
4.	Case Western Reserve	8-3-3	0.597	1-2-3	8-3-3	5
5.	John Carroll	12-5-1	0.564	3-3-1	12-5-1	3
6.	Otterbein	12-2-3	0.547	2-2-2	12-2-3	6
7.	Mount Union	15-2-1	0.521	3-2-0	15-2-1	7

These are the ones that matter for the NCAA tournament.

Ah, yes. Thank you.

[PaulNewman]

Yes, and Otterbein will climb even with a finals loss because of major SoS boost playing JCU and ONU back to back. I'm guessing CWRU is most vulnerable out of the teams above Mt Union as the Spartans could fall to 8-4-3 with only one ranked win (unless Denison comes back in) but the CWRU SoS is hard to ignore. 

[TableMax]

One could make a case that 7 teams could get at large in OAC and NCAC.  And CWRU.  Tough decision for whomever
makes the decision.  Who is on the committee?

[College Soccer Observer]

One could make a case that 7 teams could get at large in OAC and NCAC.  And CWRU.  Tough decision for whomever
makes the decision.  Who is on the committee?

REGION I
David Kulik
Assistant Athletic Director/Head Men's Soccer Coach
Johnson & Wales University (Providence)
REGION II
Gabe Margolis
Head Men's Soccer Coach
Brandeis University
REGION III
Brian Marcantonio
Head Men's Soccer Coach
Utica College

REGION IV
Carl Christian
Interim Director of Athletics
York College
REGION V
Rob Dallas
Head Men's Soccer Coach
Cabrini University
REGION VI
Jon Waters
Director of Athletics
University of Lynchburg
REGION VII
Justin Newell, chair
Assistant Athletic Director
Kenyon College

REGION VIII
Nate Stewart
Director of Athletics
Carthage College
REGION IX
Travis Wall
Head Men's Soccer Coach
St. Olaf College
REGION X
Brad Bankhead
Head Men's Soccer Coach
University of Mary Hardin-Baylor

Above is posted in the prechampionships manual.  Not sure who replaced Travis Wall when he took the Kenyon job, but obviously he would not continue to serve as the member for Region IX

[Coach Jeff]

Someone will have to replace region V next season due to the closing

Cabrini University to be sold
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How do they get on the committee is it elected of nominated?

[TableMax]

Someone gotta make a decision at the end.  It sure does help if you have peeps that put u at the top of the rankings in the weeks prior to the end when it all goes down.   Seriously.  I say they should playoff and end it on the field regionally vs. the current massively flawed arbitrary scrub system.  On a positive note the games are truly great to watch..eh

[TableMax]

Last ranking-
Kenyon 14-3 Tops  in  Region

Mt. Union 15-2-1

MTU 2 huge out of conference wins..

Kenyon a .04 stronger SOS..

LOL

[TableMax]

Don't mean to `bogart the board but let me get this straight...

MTU #7 Kenyon #1 in region..

Better Winning %
Better RVR
Better QUALIty CWRU/Calvin Wins
Much deeper Conference
But .04 SOS less..

And they 6 teams back??

Whaa

[PaulNewman]

I apologize in advance that accurate information doesn't support the very singularly focused narrative offered here....

Here is the actual Region VII chair and cmte members for 2023 (not 2022)...

REGION VII
Treg Lunger, chair Waynesburg Presidents' Athletic Conf.
Gabriel Kuhn Alfred State Allegheny Mountain
Aaron Gustine Earlham Heartland Collegiate
Dejan Mladenovic John Carroll Ohio Athletic Conference
Andy Zidron Wooster North Coast Athletic
Keith Danley Chatham Presidents' Athletic Conf.

That entire group of people is who determines what RR spots teams land in based on essentially the criteria that have been employed for years and years and years.

Of course this does not exonerate Kenyon from masterminding being the only school in Region VII (and for that matter, the country) to have their own special algorithm for conjuring up a fake SoS while also manipulating the SoS of Mt Union...and only Mt Union.

I do hope we get a very accurate, fine-grained analysis -- putting aside the Kenyon obsession for just a half-second -- of exactly why the other five teams are ahead of Mt Union in Region VII.  And why these other five teams have been held so harmless (since those are actually the ones Mt Union needs to jump)?