D3Boards.Com Soccer Top 20 Fan Poll

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jknezek

Edited to add 7th voter


D3Boards.com Soccer Fan Poll Games as of 9/27/2021
National Top 20























Rank
School
Points
Voter Breakdown
1
Tufts
129
5 , 4 , 2 , 2 , 1 , 3 , 1
2
Washington and Lee
126
1 , 3 , 9 , 1 , 3 , 1 , 3
3
Messiah
124
3 , 6 , 1 , 6 , 3 , 2 , 2
4
Trinity (Texas)
116
2 , 2 , 3 , 5 , 7 , 7 , 5
5
Ohio Wesleyan
104
4 , 7 , 4 , 7 , 4 , 12 , 5
6
Oneonta State
97
7 , 5 , 5 , 8 , 6 , 8 , 11
7
Middlebury
96
6 , 1 , 7 , 4 , 6 , 6
8
Johns Hopkins
87
8 , 8 , 13 , 12 , 5 , 12 , 2
9
Amherst
62
11 , 11 , 6 , 4 , 11
10
New York University
59
10 , 16 , 8 , 13 , 8 , 12
11
Calvin
56
9 , 12 , 10 , 9 , 9
12
Montclair State
51
13 , 15 , 20 , 17 , 10 , 14 , 7
13
Otterbein
48
11 , 10 , 16 , 14 , 18 , 15 , 15
14
Rochester
42
14 , 20 , 11 , 15 , 11 , 13
15
North Central (Ill.)
34
9 , 10 , 10
16
Franklin and Marshall
29
15 , 12 , 18 , 17 , 14
T17
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
27
18 , 13 , 17 , 9
T17
Cortland State
27
12 , 14 , 19 , 19 , 16 , 19
19
Hope
18
20 , 15 , 15 , 16
20
Carthage
14
9 , 19

Also Receiving Votes:
Coast Guard (12) , Chicago (11) , Emory (11) , Washington U. (11) , Rowan (10) , Randolph (8) , St. Mary's (Md.) (7) , Augsburg (6) , Eastern (4) , Redlands (4) , Kenyon (3) , St. Olaf (3) , Wheaton (Ill.) (2) , Pacific Lutheran (1) , Wilmington (1)

1 = 1st Place Vote, 7 = 7th Place Vote in Voter Breakdown
Special Thanks to the Voters: Gregory Sager, Ejay, SimpleCoach, College Soccer Observer, D4_Pace, PaulNewman, D3_Slack


SimpleCoach

And special thanks to @jknezek for putting it all together.

jknezek

And we have a surprise 8th voter. So rather than edit the poll up top, I'll just drop this one down here. Next week I'm holding to my deadlines....

D3Boards.com Soccer Fan Poll Games as of 9/27/2021
National Top 20























Rank
School
Points
Voter Breakdown
1
Tufts
148
5 , 4 , 2 , 2 , 1 , 3 , 1 , 2
2
Washington and Lee
146
1 , 3 , 9 , 1 , 3 , 1 , 3 , 1
3
Messiah
141
3 , 6 , 1 , 6 , 3 , 2 , 2 , 4
4
Trinity (Texas)
132
2 , 2 , 3 , 5 , 7 , 7 , 5 , 5
5
Ohio Wesleyan
117
4 , 7 , 4 , 7 , 4 , 12 , 5 , 8
6
Middlebury
114
6 , 1 , 7 , 4 , 6 , 6 , 3
7
Oneonta State
112
7 , 5 , 5 , 8 , 6 , 8 , 11 , 6
8
Johns Hopkins
100
8 , 8 , 13 , 12 , 5 , 12 , 2 , 8
9
New York University
70
10 , 16 , 8 , 13 , 8 , 12 , 10
10
Calvin
68
9 , 12 , 10 , 9 , 9 , 9
11
Amherst
66
11 , 11 , 6 , 4 , 11 , 17
T12
Montclair State
57
13 , 15 , 20 , 17 , 10 , 14 , 7 , 15
T12
Otterbein
57
11 , 10 , 16 , 14 , 18 , 15 , 15 , 12
14
Rochester
45
14 , 20 , 11 , 15 , 11 , 13 , 18
15
Cortland State
37
12 , 14 , 19 , 19 , 16 , 19 , 11
T16
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
34
18 , 13 , 17 , 9 , 14
T16
North Central (Ill.)
34
9 , 10 , 10
18
Franklin and Marshall
29
15 , 12 , 18 , 17 , 14
T19
Carthage
19
9 , 19 , 16
T19
Emory
19
10 , 13

Also Receiving Votes:
Hope (18) , Chicago (12) , Coast Guard (12) , Washington U. (11) , Rowan (10) , Randolph (8) , St. Mary's (Md.) (7) , Augsburg (6) , Eastern (4) , Redlands (4) , Kenyon (3) , St. Olaf (3) , Gustavus Adolphus (2) , Wheaton (Ill.) (2) , Pacific Lutheran (1) , Wilmington (1)

1 = 1st Place Vote, 20 = 20th Place Vote in Voter Breakdown
Special Thanks to the Voters: Gregory Sager, Ejay, SimpleCoach, College Soccer Observer, D4_Pace, PaulNewman, D3_Slack, FBALLISLIFE

jknezek

Some things to note.

1) Clear tiers at the top. 1-4 and 5-8 are way out in front.

2) Middlebury has the widest dispersion. #1 on 1 ballot, unranked on another. You can't get wider than that!

3) W&L has half the #1 votes, but still ranks second with the lowest vote of the 4 teams in the top tier (9th)

4) The bottom of the poll is a muddle. There are 16 teams in the ARV category. That's almost as many as in the entire poll.

5) Hope, Chicago, and Coast Guard all show up on 4 ballots but can't crack a poll spot above teams like NCC with 3 ballots, Carthage (3 ballots), and Emory (2 ballots).


d4_Pace

First off, this is great thanks for setting this up.
Second, I love the NESCAC but in no world is Middlebury the best team in the country with a win over Bowdoin their only significant result. That being said it is interesting to see everyone's different opinions.

Centennial1


Ron Boerger

Thank you voters, and thank you jknezek for setting this up!

D3_Slack

Great slate of games today and great to see the season turn to conference play.  Will really start to bring greater clarity to who the top teams are.  Still so much out of conference wins that are inflating some, and deflating other rankings.  In my view this weekend is when things start to really get interesting.

jknezek

D3Boards.com Soccer Fan Poll Games as of 10/4/2021
National Top 20























Rank
School
Points
Voter Breakdown
T1
Tufts (2)
168
5 , 2 , 2 , 2 , 1 , 3 , 1 , 2 , 3
T1
Washington and Lee (5)
168
1 , 1 , 6 , 1 , 4 , 1 , 4 , 1 , 2
3
Messiah (2)
167
3 , 4 , 1 , 3 , 3 , 2 , 2 , 3 , 1
4
Ohio Wesleyan
144
4 , 7 , 4 , 4 , 6 , 5 , 5 , 5 , 5
5
Trinity (TX)
141
2 , 3 , 3 , 12 , 10 , 7 , 3 , 4 , 4
6
Johns Hopkins
123
6 , 6 , 8 , 10 , 5 , 10 , 9 , 6 , 6
7
Amherst
115
20 , 8 , 10 , 5 , 2 , 4 , 7 , 11 , 7
8
Oneonta State
114
7 , 5 , 5 , 9 , 7 , 9 , 12 , 12 , 9
9
New York University
108
8 , 13 , 18 , 7 , 8 , 6 , 6 , 7 , 8
10
Montclair State
81
9 , 9 , 19 , 17 , 11 , 11 , 8 , 14 , 10
11
Washington University
77
13 , 11 , 7 , 8 , 9 , 18 , 14 , 11
12
Emory
65
17 , 6 , 12 , 8 , 15 , 9 , 15
13
Cortland State
63
10 , 10 , 15 , 19 , 15 , 16 , 8 , 12
14
Otterbein
60
11 , 12 , 14 , 16 , 20 , 11 , 10 , 14
15
Franklin and Marshall
53
15 , 14 , 14 , 13 , 12 , 13 , 13
16
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
43
18 , 16 , 13 , 17 , 13 , 16 , 13 , 19
T17
Calvin
38
14 , 11 , 15 , 19 , 18 , 15 , 17
T17
North Central (IL)
38
15 , 9 , 20 , 10 , 18 , 16
19
Connecticut College
18
20 , 11 , 19 , 20 , 17
20
Middlebury
17
12 , 20 , 16 , 19

Also Receiving Votes:
Chicago (14) , RPI (14) , Lebanon Valley (9) , Rochester (8) , MIT (7) , Hope (6) , Rowan (6) , St. Olaf (6) , Gustavus Adolphus (5) , Redlands (5) , Pacific Lutheran (4) , Kenyon (3) , Dominican (2)

1 = 1st Place Vote, 20 = 20th Place Vote in Voter Breakdown

Special Thanks to the Voters: Gregory Sager, Ejay, SimpleCoach, College Soccer Observer, D4_Pace, PaulNewman, D3_Slack, FBALLISLIFE, Mid-Atlantic Fan

jknezek

Items of note:

1) A first place tie and third place is only 1 pt behind. It's a logjam at the top!
2) W&L has the most first place votes and the lowest vote in the first 3 teams
3) Messiah, in third place, actually has the highest votes from every voter. Their lowest is 4th, Tufts is 5th, W&L is 6th
4) Quite a drop off to Ohio Wesleyan and Trinity (TX) in 4/5 slots.
5) Ohio Wesleyan has significantly more consistency than Trinity (TX) from the voters
6) Washington U is the first team, at 11th, not to appear on all 9 ballots
7) Amherst has the widest spread, a 2 vote and a 20 vote
8) Middlebury took the largest tumble week to week, going from 6 to 20
9) Rochester and Carthage drop out
10) Connecticut College and Washington University jump in
11) Washington University debuting at 11 is the biggest jump.

D3_Slack

Once all the votes are collected how do you calculate the points each team gets?  Thank you.

jknezek

Quote from: D3_Slack on October 07, 2021, 10:23:23 AM
Once all the votes are collected how do you calculate the points each team gets?  Thank you.
1st spot on a ballot is worth 20 pts, 20th spot on a ballot is worth 1 pt. Sum up all the ballots for each team.

jknezek

#12
10/12 posted Poll moved several messages down to fix formatting issues

Interesting things of note:

1) W&L takes over sole first place and widens the gap in the top 3, holding 6 of the 9 first place votes
2) Trinity (TX) is still a distant 4th from the top 3
3) Of teams appearing on all 9 ballots, Emory holds the biggest disparity with 2 7th place votes and a 20th
4) North Central has 3 votes in the top 10, and 2 no votes
5) The weeks big winner: Middlebury, who claws back 5 of the 14 places they lost last week
6) The weeks big loser: Oneonta State, who falls from 8th to the middle of the Also Receiving Votes teams


I'll fix the table formatting next week. Adding the weekly change column caused me to run out of space. Will lower the font sizes so it all fits on one line on full screen desktop. Not much I can do about mobile.


PaulNewman

I guess comments and reveals do make more sense of this thread.

My top 10 this week was...

1)   WASHINGTON & LEE
2)   MESSIAH
3)   TUFTS
4)   OWU
5)   TRINITY (TX)
6)   NYU
7)   EMORY
8)   JOHNS HOPKINS
9)   AMHERST
10)   MONTCLAIR ST

I dropped Oneonta, F&M, RPI, Cortland, and my fave Pac Lutheran (who lost once this past week, not twice as appeared for at least a while counting Puget Sound loss twice).

The teams making (or still making) the group poll that I didn't have in top 20 were Cortland, Midd, and Kenyon.

I moved Calvin back in at #17 after having them out.

Other differences group poll were I had New Paltz in at #14, C-M-S still in at #15 (previous week at #13 for me), and Redlands newly in at #18.

I finally conceded on North Central adding them in at #19.

Biggest snubs/misses in group poll imo was New Paltz not getting in, St Olaf barely squeezing in at #20 while I had the Oles at #11, and to a lesser degree Emory coming in at #12 while I had the Eagles at #7.

Interesting how some teams seem to hold their value.  Hard to budge Calvin even with four blemishes.  Chicago also pretty resilient.  C-M-S and RPI had I think a draw each and both are out.  Rowan dropped like a stone I think with one loss too.  If Otterbein lost or had couple more draws they'd be out.  It's partly schedule and value of certain results, but there's also a reputation factor as well.

Teams that were "last teams out" for me this week were in no particular order MIT, Kenyon, Midd, and North Park, along with Oneonta, Cortland, and few others who dropped out in last week or two.

Closer to home, if I was voting tonight Kenyon would jump to #11 or #12 and OWU would drop to #8 or #9.


jknezek

*** Repost to fix formatting issues


D3Boards.com Soccer Fan Poll Games as of 10/10/2021
National Top 20























Rank
School
Points
Weekly Change
Voter Breakdown
1
Washington and Lee (6)
174
0
1 , 1 , 5 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 2 , 1 , 2
2
Messiah (2)
169
1
3 , 2 , 1 , 3 , 2 , 2 , 4 , 2 , 1
3
Tufts (1)
160
-2
5 , 7 , 2 , 2 , 3 , 3 , 1 , 3 , 3
4
Trinity (TX)
145
1
2 , 3 , 4 , 11 , 8 , 5 , 3 , 4 , 4
5
Ohio Wesleyan
144
-1
4 , 5 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 4 , 9 , 5 , 5
6
Johns Hopkins
129
0
7 , 4 , 7 , 9 , 5 , 8 , 7 , 7 , 6
7
New York University
124
2
6 , 8 , 13 , 5 , 7 , 6 , 6 , 6 , 8
8
Amherst
112
-1
16 , 11 , 6 , 8 , 4 , 9 , 5 , 11 , 7
9
Washington University
92
2
13 , 12 , 11 , 6 , 9 , 12 , 12 , 12 , 10
10
Montclair State
88
0
8 , 6 , 15 , 15 , 10 , 10 , 18 , 10 , 9
11
Otterbein
83
3
9 , 14 , 12 , 13 , 11 , 16 , 10 , 8 , 13
12
Emory
73
0
12 , 16 , 18 , 7 , 20 , 7 , 15 , 9 , 12
13
North Central (IL)
58
4
9 , 8 , 17 , 19 , 8 , 17 , 11
14
Calvin
54
3
14 , 13 , 10 , 14 , 19 , 17 , 13 , 14
15
Middlebury
52
5
10 , 20 , 9 , 12 , 12 , 14 , 18
16
Connecticut College
37
3
15 , 19 , 10 , 16 , 13 , 16
T17
Chicago
29
---
11 , 14 , 16 , 20 , 16 , 20
T17
Cortland State
29
-4
19 , 14 , 13 , 14 , 16
T17
Kenyon
29
---
17 , 10 , 19 , 13 , 17
20
St. Olaf
20
---
15 , 19 , 11 , 19

Also Receiving Votes:
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (19) , Swarthmore (16) , MIT (12) , New Paltz State (10) , Oneonta State (7) , RPI (7) , Hope (4) , Randolph (4) , Redlands (4) , Franklin and Marshall (3) , Gustavus Adolphus (2) , North Park (1)

Newly Ranked: Chicago, Kenyon, St. Olaf
Dropped Out: Oneonta State (Prev:8), Franklin and Marshall (Prev:15), Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (Prev:16)

1 = 1st Place Vote, 20 = 20th Place Vote in Voter Breakdown
Special Thanks to the Voters: Gregory Sager, Ejay, SimpleCoach, College Soccer Observer, D4_Pace, PaulNewman, D3_Slack, FBALLISLIFE, Mid-Atlantic Fan