D3Boards.Com Soccer Top 20 Fan Poll

[Hopkins92]

If my trajectory of checking in on various other teams outside of the Mid-Atlantic continues, I'll definitely do the poll next year. This is really the first year I've made a concerted effort to hop around and view teams on streams to get a feel for what's happening nationally. Been really cool getting more familiar with NESCAC, UAA and a few other highly ranked teams.

[Ejay]

I've found that watching teams that I'm not normally interested in has definitely swayed my opinion.  For example, I've now watched Tuts a few times this year and honestly I'm not overly impressed. Yes they're good, but not "oh wow they're really good" good.

[Gregory Sager]

I've found that watching teams that I'm not normally interested in has definitely swayed my opinion.  For example, I've now watched Tuts a few times this year and honestly I'm not overly impressed. Yes they're good, but not "oh wow they're really good" good.

This. Being a part of the poll is making me heighten my efforts to watch teams outside of my neck of the woods, as a matter of due diligence. Deciding not to watch teams from my own league that I've already seen seven or eight times in order to watch other games is how I've become sold on St. Olaf, f'rinstance. I've seen part of three Oles games now, and I'm totally convinced that they're a legit power.

[SimpleCoach]

I've found that watching teams that I'm not normally interested in has definitely swayed my opinion.  For example, I've now watched Tuts a few times this year and honestly I'm not overly impressed. Yes they're good, but not "oh wow they're really good" good.

@Ejay, am with you and am learning every day of teams that impress me, or don't.  I too am on the St. Olaf bandwagon.  Think they are legit.  These are some that I have come around to Kenyon, North Park and Trinity in Texas as well, to name a few thanks to branching out.  It's been super helpful to watch where I can.  Also done a lot to turn me off to a lot of programs I thought were better than they were ... ie, Franklin & Marshall, Catholic, College of New Jersey, and yes, Amherst.

Granted, maybe I should be aware of some of these things, but I am relatively new to the broader D3 world.  It's been pretty enlightening to say the least.

[d4_Pace]

I think it is fair to say that this year's Tufts team hasn't quite reached the level of past editions. That being said they are still certainly a threat as we head into November which is when the games really matter. 

If you want to see Tufts at their best, their game against Calvin at the last final 4 was probably the best example, particularly the first half.

https://www.ncaa.com/video/soccer-men/2019-12-06/diii-mens-soccer-2019-semifinal-tufts-calvin-full-game

[Ejay]

I think it is fair to say that this year's Tufts team hasn't quite reached the level of past editions. That being said they are still certainly a threat as we head into November which is when the games really matter. 

If you want to see Tufts at their best, their game against Calvin at the last final 4 was probably the best example, particularly the first half.

https://www.ncaa.com/video/soccer-men/2019-12-06/diii-mens-soccer-2019-semifinal-tufts-calvin-full-game

I love the passion and appreciate the support you have for the program, but how they played in 2019 semi-final is irrelevant to my point.  I simply stated that watching games has shown me there are lots of teams deserving of a top 5 ranking.  If #5 played #20 10 times, and the O/U on wins was 6.5, which side would you take?  Personally I wouldn't touch that bet.

Is Tufts good? Yes.  Are they a no-brainer top 5 team? No, not in my opinion. Would I gripe if they were a consensus #3? No, not really.

[d4_Pace]

I've found that watching teams that I'm not normally interested in has definitely swayed my opinion.  For example, I've now watched Tuts a few times this year and honestly I'm not overly impressed. Yes they're good, but not "oh wow they're really good" good.

I was responding this post which was a completely different argument. I agree that this year there seems to probably be more parity than in the past.

[jknezek]

Unfortunately we are down to only 7 voters this week...

D3Boards.com Soccer Fan Poll Games as of 10/31/2021

National Top 20

Rank		School			Points		Weekly Change		Voter Breakdown
1		Washington and Lee (3)			129		1		1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 9
2		Messiah (1)			124		-1		3, 5, 3, 4, 2, 5, 1
3		Tufts			119		0		8, 6, 4, 3, 3, 2, 2
4		Trinity (TX) (2)			110		0		2, 1, 1, 5, 9, 3, 16
5		Kenyon			105		1		4, 3, 10, 10, 5, 6, 4
6		Ohio Wesleyan (1)			103		2		5, 4, 5, 1, 11, 8, 10
7		Washington University			81		8		13, 11, 12, 9, 4, 12, 5
8		Connecticut College			80		5		16, 14, 8, 8, 6, 9, 6
9		St. Olaf			77		3		6, 7, 13, 7, 20, 4, 13
T10		Calvin			76		-1		7, 9, 7, 15, 15, 7, 11
T10		Chicago			76		4		10, 10, 11, 6, 13, 13, 8
12		Montclair State			73		-7		9, 13, 14, 11, 14, 10, 3
13		Amherst			72		-6		17, 12, 6, 12, 7, 14, 7
14		Otterbein			64		-4		12, 8, 9, 15, 16, 12, 11
15		Cortland State			38		2		15, 15, 16, 10, 15, 17
16		Emory			31		-5		11, 13, 18, 18, 14
17		Franklin and Marshall			25		---		19, 16, 20, 8, 17
18		New York University			21		1		14, 20, 18, 17, 15
19		North Park			20		---		18, 18, 17, 19, 16, 18
20		Claremont-Mudd-Scripps			13		-4		19, 18, 14, 20

Also Receiving Votes:
Lynchburg (5) , MIT (5) , Middlebury (4) , North Central (IL) (4) , Kalamazoo (2) , Penn State-Harrisburg (2) , Redlands (2)

Newly Ranked: Franklin and Marshall, North Park
Dropped Out: MIT (Prev:18), Johns Hopkins (Prev:20)

1 = 1st Place Vote, 20 = 20th Place Vote in Voter Breakdown
Special Thanks to the Voters: Gregory Sager, Ejay, SimpleCoach, College Soccer Observer, D4_Pace, PaulNewman, ConnAlum

[PaulNewman]

Submission for this week's ranking....

1. Washington & Lee
2. Tufts
3. Trinity (TX)
4. St. Olaf
5. Messiah
6. Kenyon
7. Calvin
8. OWU
9. Connecticut Coll
10. Montclair St
11. Otterbein
12. Washington U
13. Chicago
14. Amherst
15. Cortland St
16. North Park
17. Franklin & Marshall
18. Emory
19. North Central
20. C-M-S

[jknezek]

For the Fan Poll as of last week... this week won't be up until tomorrow most likely...


Teams that did not make the tournament field but were in the poll: #20 CMS (13pts), RV MIT(5pts), and RV Kalamazoo(2pts).

At-Large Bids that made the field but weren't in the poll: Middlebury (4pts), Rowan (0pts), Johns Hopkins (0pts), Gettysburg (0pts), Swarthmore (0pts), Rochester (0pts).

Well done to our voters, who mostly agreed with the committee before the final week of the season.

[College Soccer Observer]

Are we doing a top 20 this week?

[jknezek]

Are we doing a top 20 this week?

We are doing the one due tomorrow. After that, just a post-season wrap up if you guys are interested.

[jknezek]

Sorry for being a bit late, but thankful we kept our 7 voters from last week!

D3Boards.com Soccer Fan Poll Games as of 11/7/2021

National Top 20

Rank		School			Points		Weekly Change		Voter Breakdown
1		Messiah (4)			137		1		1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2
2		Tufts (3)			136		1		2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1
3		Washington University			116		4		4, 3, 5, 6, 5, 5, 3
4		Washington and Lee			113		-3		3, 6, 3, 4, 3, 3, 12
5		Trinity (TX)			100		-1		5, 5, 4, 3, 7, 4, 19
6		Kenyon			98		-1		6, 7, 7, 8, 9, 8, 4
7		Connecticut College			87		1		17, 14, 6, 7, 4, 6, 6
8		Ohio Wesleyan			86		-2		7, 9, 9, 5, 12, 10, 9
9		Amherst			79		4		18, 8, 10, 9, 6, 12, 5
10		St. Olaf			67		-1		8, 12, 16, 10, 14, 7, 13
11		Chicago			66		-1		12, 11, 12, 17, 11, 11, 7
12		Otterbein			63		2		15, 13, 15, 12, 10, 9, 10
13		Montclair State			58		-1		11, 16, 17, 14, 8, 15, 8
14		Calvin			53		-4		9, 10, 11, 13, 15, 15
15		Cortland State			51		0		10, 4, 13, 19, 20, 13, 17
16		Emory			27		0		13, 15, 18, 11
17		John Carroll			21		---		14, 14, 14
T18		New York University			15		0		16, 20, 19, 14
T18		North Central (IL)			15		---		11, 16
T18		North Park			15		1		19, 18, 16, 16

Also Receiving Votes:
Denison (14) , Franklin and Marshall (12) , Middlebury (12) , Washington College (11) , Lynchburg (6) , Christopher Newport (4) , Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (3) , Rowan (3) , Penn State-Harrisburg (2)

Newly Ranked: John Carroll, North Central (IL)
Dropped Out: Franklin and Marshall (Prev:17), Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (Prev:20)

1 = 1st Place Vote, 20 = 20th Place Vote in Voter Breakdown
Special Thanks to the Voters: Gregory Sager, Ejay, SimpleCoach, College Soccer Observer, D4_Pace, PaulNewman, ConnAlum

[Ejay]

Nailed 1-2-3 in order 

[PaulNewman]

PN's end of regular season, pre-tournament submission...

1. Tufts
2. Messiah
3. W&L
4. Trinity (TX)
5. Wash U
6. Conn College
7. St Olaf
8. Kenyon
9. Otterbein
10. OWU
11. Chicago
12. Amherst
13. Cortland St
14. John Carroll
15. Montclair St
16. North Central
17. Washington College
18. Emory
19. Franklin & Marshall
20. Denison