Go WEST young man (and NORTH)

[PaulNewman]

iirc Dany Ramirez got a red in the game right before the TLU match.

This might have solved the mystery of the UST athletic department staffer yelling at someone during the TLU match.  He kept yelling at someone named Dany, and if he was red carded before the game even started that would definitely track with him being the target.

No, he got a red (two yellows maybe with one coming at 90:00) in the Southwestern match before the TLU game and so he always was going to be missing the TLU match.

[PaulNewman]

The early red, the antics all over the field, the constant flopping and rolling around and laying on the ground, constant confrontations of the referee, and then maybe the worst display I've seen for PKs (and I've seen some bad ones). 

hmm...

Help me out...translation?

[College Soccer Observer]

He means that he picked up a red in the Southwestern game, so he was suspended for the TLU match.

[paclassic89]

The antics sound familiar but that's a live wire I don't particularly want to touch on here

[stlawus]

iirc Dany Ramirez got a red in the game right before the TLU match.

This might have solved the mystery of the UST athletic department staffer yelling at someone during the TLU match.  He kept yelling at someone named Dany, and if he was red carded before the game even started that would definitely track with him being the target.

No, he got a red (two yellows maybe with one coming at 90:00) in the Southwestern match before the TLU game and so he always was going to be missing the TLU match.

Gotcha well in either case it still might have solved the mystery I've irrationally obsessed over.

[College Soccer Observer]

Speaking of antics, a Kenyon player picked up what has to be one of the dumbest reds of all time yesterday after the NCAC final.  He was ejected for cursing at the ref, therefore ruling him out of Kenyon's first NCAA tournament game.

[PaulNewman]

The antics sound familiar but that's a live wire I don't particularly want to touch on here

OK, got it.

[PaulNewman]

Speaking of antics, a Kenyon player picked up what has to be one of the dumbest reds of all time yesterday after the NCAC final.  He was ejected for cursing at the ref, therefore ruling him out of Kenyon's first NCAA tournament game.

Not sure that qualifies as an antic, but yes, certainly not a smart move.  I'll just say it was a very chippy game and leave it at that.  I assume you weren't suggesting some equivalency to the UST match.

Btw, you know that Kenyon player, correct?

[regionxfan17]

I am just sickened by that game....and far more upset than I was after my own team lost yesterday (and I was plenty upset).  UST as a team and school seems to have learned absolutely nothing.  The early red, the antics all over the field, the constant flopping and rolling around and laying on the ground, constant confrontations of the referee, and then maybe the worst display I've seen for PKs (and I've seen some bad ones).  The ref should have given the GK a straight red.  Unreal that he was premitted to do all that.  And then the announcer, the same one who said he saw nothing when UST's first PK taker today broke a TLU player's leg in two, was aghast when UST fouled the Trinity GK in the box and again said there was nothing.  He was so bad he started arguing with his color man.  One of the saddest things is that UST had a fair amount of supporters (including myself) heading into this season after last year's performance and Sweet 16 run.  I was a fan until that TLU game....and now I wish the program would be shut down or suspended for at least two years.

SCAC was expected to disqualify UST from hosting this year's playoffs directly as a result of the TLU game. Instead, this is all that happened:

"SCAC Championship Hosted by UST" was changed to "SCAC Championship Hosted by SCAC" and SaberCats Stadium was listed in the program as a "neutral" site.

Zero teeth in these sanctions - UST still had home locker room privileges, home fan base, didn't have to travel, etc., so no, I don't think they've learned anything.

[D3Navy]

I am just sickened by that game....and far more upset than I was after my own team lost yesterday (and I was plenty upset).  UST as a team and school seems to have learned absolutely nothing.  The early red, the antics all over the field, the constant flopping and rolling around and laying on the ground, constant confrontations of the referee, and then maybe the worst display I've seen for PKs (and I've seen some bad ones).  The ref should have given the GK a straight red.  Unreal that he was premitted to do all that.  And then the announcer, the same one who said he saw nothing when UST's first PK taker today broke a TLU player's leg in two, was aghast when UST fouled the Trinity GK in the box and again said there was nothing.  He was so bad he started arguing with his color man.  One of the saddest things is that UST had a fair amount of supporters (including myself) heading into this season after last year's performance and Sweet 16 run.  I was a fan until that TLU game....and now I wish the program would be shut down or suspended for at least two years.

SCAC was expected to disqualify UST from hosting this year's playoffs directly as a result of the TLU game. Instead, this is all that happened:

"SCAC Championship Hosted by UST" was changed to "SCAC Championship Hosted by SCAC" and SaberCats Stadium was listed in the program as a "neutral" site.

Zero teeth in these sanctions - UST still had home locker room privileges, home fan base, didn't have to travel, etc., so no, I don't think they've learned anything.

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[D3Navy]

SCAC Championships

Trinity 0 - St. Thomas 0 early

WOW!  UST's Dany Ramirez was issued a red in the 6th minute and Trinity coach Paul McGinley got a yellow.  No idea what happened, but he must have said something.  For that to result in a red card this quickly, it had to be bad.  Not sure what McGinley said either.  Feels like this is a product of the refs trying to clamp down on the game from the get-go, but playing a man down for 85 minutes is going to be rough, especially with Taty Aleman not in the starting lineup.  I guess UST has won before being down men against TLU, but this is a really tall order.  My guess is Trinity will need to be on their best behavior too because the refs are on high alert.

HALF:  Trinity 0 - St. Thomas 0

St. Thomas has managed to stay in it by playing tight defense and launching the occasional counter-attack despite being down a man.  What makes this bunkering different is that St. Thomas is really technical and good at playing out of the back without launching it, so it's often Trinity that has to run around chasing the ball a lot, rather than the typical park the bus strategy of kicking it long and engaging in desperation defense again when the ball quickly gets returned. 

I think Trinity's Adjei is getting frustrated because St. Thomas seems to be doubling him whenever he gets the ball.  It was an incident between him and Ramirez that led to the red card early in the half and another foul and yellow card that left Adjei a little hobbled.  Trinity is probably going to need to be a little more aggressive to unbalance St. Thomas.  It's pretty unusual to be up a man from the first couple of minutes in the game yet have zero shots on goal and fewer shots overall (3 to 4).

At the end of 2OT

Trinity 0 - St. Thomas 0

We go to PKs.  Both teams pretty exhausted.  I have no idea why Trinity used so few subs in this game (really only two players until very late).  Meese and Adjei were exhausted and JC Rule was trying to cover for a lot of people.  St. Thomas is like a basketball team with a lot of rangy wings that are interchangeable.  They kept bringing in players who were able to run enough and sell out their bodies to help makeup for the man down.

FINAL:  St. Thomas beats Trinity in PKs 3-2

Otero was practicing all the dark arts on that PK shootout.  Earned a yellow card, but two Trinity players kicked it over and he made the save to win it, so I guess it was worth it.

Trinity now has to hope it has done enough for a Pool C bid when Colorado College may be above it in the rankings and Region X generally only gets one Pool C bid if that because of the relatively lower SoS

Trinity played very passively instead of pressing to score.  They seemed to be afraid of STU counterattacks.  The red card seemed to energize STU, in effect becoming an advantage.

STU truly won the game today despite their overly aggressive, yet strangely whiney, style of play.

Fingers crossed for a bid for TU.

[College Soccer Observer]

Speaking of antics, a Kenyon player picked up what has to be one of the dumbest reds of all time yesterday after the NCAC final.  He was ejected for cursing at the ref, therefore ruling him out of Kenyon's first NCAA tournament game.

Not sure that qualifies as an antic, but yes, certainly not a smart move.  I'll just say it was a very chippy game and leave it at that.  I assume you weren't suggesting some equivalency to the UST match.

Btw, you know that Kenyon player, correct?

No suggestion of an equivalency at all.  Just amazed at how dumb people can be sometimes.  Yes, I do know the young man and he has always struggled to rein in his emotions. 

[PaulNewman]

Speaking of antics, a Kenyon player picked up what has to be one of the dumbest reds of all time yesterday after the NCAC final.  He was ejected for cursing at the ref, therefore ruling him out of Kenyon's first NCAA tournament game.

Not sure that qualifies as an antic, but yes, certainly not a smart move.  I'll just say it was a very chippy game and leave it at that.  I assume you weren't suggesting some equivalency to the UST match.

Btw, you know that Kenyon player, correct?

No suggestion of an equivalency at all.  Just amazed at how dumb people can be sometimes.  Yes, I do know the young man and he has always struggled to rein in his emotions.

Yeah, I don't like it...but I also admit despite having been an athlete myself in the 1870s that I don't understand players not being able to contain themselves, or that coaches don't anticipate things that could happen to specific players and try to stop it beforehand (or maybe they do all the time and the incidents still just happen). 

Does hurt too...he has been very effective for Kenyon over the past handful of games or more.  Nearly scored a couple of times yesterday.   And Martinez also almost got a 2nd yellow and he should be so happy just to be back and playing.  Starters and the very best players must know that they need to be available.

[Kuiper]

I am just sickened by that game....and far more upset than I was after my own team lost yesterday (and I was plenty upset).  UST as a team and school seems to have learned absolutely nothing.  The early red, the antics all over the field, the constant flopping and rolling around and laying on the ground, constant confrontations of the referee, and then maybe the worst display I've seen for PKs (and I've seen some bad ones).  The ref should have given the GK a straight red.  Unreal that he was premitted to do all that.  And then the announcer, the same one who said he saw nothing when UST's first PK taker today broke a TLU player's leg in two, was aghast when UST fouled the Trinity GK in the box and again said there was nothing.  He was so bad he started arguing with his color man.  One of the saddest things is that UST had a fair amount of supporters (including myself) heading into this season after last year's performance and Sweet 16 run.  I was a fan until that TLU game....and now I wish the program would be shut down or suspended for at least two years.

SCAC was expected to disqualify UST from hosting this year's playoffs directly as a result of the TLU game. Instead, this is all that happened:

"SCAC Championship Hosted by UST" was changed to "SCAC Championship Hosted by SCAC" and SaberCats Stadium was listed in the program as a "neutral" site.

Zero teeth in these sanctions - UST still had home locker room privileges, home fan base, didn't have to travel, etc., so no, I don't think they've learned anything.

Ironically, it wouldn't be completely crazy for St. Thomas to get the #1 ranking in Region X after beating the previous #1 (Colorado College) and #2 (Trinity) teams, which would normally put them in line for hosting a pod in the first round.

[College Soccer Observer]

The Trinity game officially goes down as a tie.