Bracketology Projection

[MRMIKESMITH]

So with the bus ride radius now being 600 instead of 500 I did a quick check for Huntingdon possibilities;
Rose-Hulman - 549
Mt St Jospeh - 561
Greenville - 576

A few others now in range are Hanover, Franklin, Ferrum, Averett(since they are moving to ODAC), ETBU. Could be others that I didn't think to check

You are correct? However, I went over this scenario that included W&L to B-SC, RHIT to Huntingdon, but those scenarios left a drastic imbalance to multiple regions. You'd move Aurora to Whitewater, CMU to W&L spot,Wheaton to Linfield,  UW-Lacrosse to DePauw, Carnegie to Mount etc.. I still managed to get less than 8 total flights if higher seeds one, but if there were upsets, probably pushes the total number of flights between 8 to 10.

[wally_wabash]

So with the bus ride radius now being 600 instead of 500 I did a quick check for Huntingdon possibilities;
Rose-Hulman - 549
Mt St Jospeh - 561
Greenville - 576

A few others now in range are Hanover, Franklin, Ferrum, Averett(since they are moving to ODAC), ETBU. Could be others that I didn't think to check

It would be a bummer if they forced a UMHB/Trinity game in the first round because something like Huntingdon/Greenville was available inside of 600 miles. I don't think that makes the tournament better. 

[MRMIKESMITH]

Week 10 Unofficial DIII Bracketology - Cost Effective Edition
This bracket is a very cost basis bracket with there being less than 8 flights if higher seeds winning. Also, #1 Seeds are NCC, UW-W, St. John's, and Mount Union. Also, the Pool C's are UW-Lacrosse,Hardin-Simmons, Birmingham-Southern, Ithaca and Wheaton.

Salisbury's triple option offense on the Butterfield grass in late November, against a defense allowing 10 points a game?

Sign me up for that, every day of the week

I think a 9-1 LL Conference champ would definitely have a 2/3 seed, most likely hosting two home games and avoiding a potential 2nd round matchup against Mount and/or Delaware Valley. However, a 2 loss conference champion Ithaca may not get a home game and probably drops to a 5 seed. A 9-1 at large Ithaca would likely get a home game, but two game would be pusining if they are a #3 seed in a bracket with Mount, and Delaware Valley. Unless you move Delaware Valley to the NCC Bracket as it's #2, then moving up to #2 seed in Mount bracket. 

[Ron Boerger]

So with the bus ride radius now being 600 instead of 500 I did a quick check for Huntingdon possibilities;
Rose-Hulman - 549
Mt St Jospeh - 561
Greenville - 576

A few others now in range are Hanover, Franklin, Ferrum, Averett(since they are moving to ODAC), ETBU. Could be others that I didn't think to check

It would be a bummer if they forced a UMHB/Trinity game in the first round because something like Huntingdon/Greenville was available inside of 600 miles. I don't think that makes the tournament better.

LOL you have been around WAY too long to think that the NCAA's primary consideration is making tournaments better.   Unless you define "better" as "cost effective."

[MRMIKESMITH]

So with the bus ride radius now being 600 instead of 500 I did a quick check for Huntingdon possibilities;
Rose-Hulman - 549
Mt St Jospeh - 561
Greenville - 576

A few others now in range are Hanover, Franklin, Ferrum, Averett(since they are moving to ODAC), ETBU. Could be others that I didn't think to check

It would be a bummer if they forced a UMHB/Trinity game in the first round because something like Huntingdon/Greenville was available inside of 600 miles. I don't think that makes the tournament better.

I don't think that would be the case this year if H-SC makes the playoff, my projections based upon W&L going to B-SC, RHIT going to Huntingdon still left H-SC going to Trinity and Redlands to UMHB. I have Albion to Central, Wheaton to Linfield, LaCrosse v. DePauw.

[wally_wabash]

So with the bus ride radius now being 600 instead of 500 I did a quick check for Huntingdon possibilities;
Rose-Hulman - 549
Mt St Jospeh - 561
Greenville - 576

A few others now in range are Hanover, Franklin, Ferrum, Averett(since they are moving to ODAC), ETBU. Could be others that I didn't think to check

It would be a bummer if they forced a UMHB/Trinity game in the first round because something like Huntingdon/Greenville was available inside of 600 miles. I don't think that makes the tournament better.

I don't think that would be the case this year if H-SC makes the playoff, my projections based upon W&L going to B-SC, RHIT going to Huntingdon still left H-SC going to Trinity and Redlands to UMHB. I have Albion to Central, Wheaton to Linfield, LaCrosse v. DePauw.

RHIT vs. Huntingdon also has no business being a round 1 game.  Wheaton at Linfield DEFIINITELY should not be played in round 1 especially if that's a byproduct of shoehorning something like Huntingdon or BSC vs. Greenville or RHIT into the first round in the name of "geographic proximity". 

[MRMIKESMITH]

So with the bus ride radius now being 600 instead of 500 I did a quick check for Huntingdon possibilities;
Rose-Hulman - 549
Mt St Jospeh - 561
Greenville - 576

A few others now in range are Hanover, Franklin, Ferrum, Averett(since they are moving to ODAC), ETBU. Could be others that I didn't think to check

It would be a bummer if they forced a UMHB/Trinity game in the first round because something like Huntingdon/Greenville was available inside of 600 miles. I don't think that makes the tournament better.

I don't think that would be the case this year if H-SC makes the playoff, my projections based upon W&L going to B-SC, RHIT going to Huntingdon still left H-SC going to Trinity and Redlands to UMHB. I have Albion to Central, Wheaton to Linfield, LaCrosse v. DePauw.

RHIT vs. Huntingdon also has no business being a round 1 game.  Wheaton at Linfield DEFIINITELY should not be played in round 1 especially if that's a byproduct of shoehorning something like Huntingdon or BSC vs. Greenville or RHIT into the first round in the name of "geographic proximity".

You are indeed correct that it would be travesty, but I'm just throwing out scenarios that would work for just "geographic proximity" sake. You can have Wheaton go to Central and Albion fly to Linfield. Which would make more sense. This scenario would then result in Wheaton going to UW-W in 2nd round and LaCrosse going to NCC 2nd round.

I actually do like my cost-effective bracket. It has a maximum of 8 flights if higher sees win. Also, if UMHB moves to #1 seed in their bracket and move Linfield to #2 in UMHB bracke and then move St. John's to #2 in UW-W bracket, that actually cuts the flights down to 7.

[Hawks88]

So with the bus ride radius now being 600 instead of 500 I did a quick check for Huntingdon possibilities;
Rose-Hulman - 549
Mt St Jospeh - 561
Greenville - 576

A few others now in range are Hanover, Franklin, Ferrum, Averett(since they are moving to ODAC), ETBU. Could be others that I didn't think to check

It would be a bummer if they forced a UMHB/Trinity game in the first round because something like Huntingdon/Greenville was available inside of 600 miles. I don't think that makes the tournament better.

I don't think that would be the case this year if H-SC makes the playoff, my projections based upon W&L going to B-SC, RHIT going to Huntingdon still left H-SC going to Trinity and Redlands to UMHB. I have Albion to Central, Wheaton to Linfield, LaCrosse v. DePauw.

RHIT vs. Huntingdon also has no business being a round 1 game.  Wheaton at Linfield DEFIINITELY should not be played in round 1 especially if that's a byproduct of shoehorning something like Huntingdon or BSC vs. Greenville or RHIT into the first round in the name of "geographic proximity".

Mississippi College @ Huntingdon in '09 didn't really have any business being a round 1 game. Seems like I remember Hendrix @ Huntingdon being questioned in '15. Remember, they had to make a rule to stop making ASC rematches in the first round. Do they change this rule if they don't intend to use it? I don't know if they put us on a plane unless they HAVE to.

[Schipper Strong]

You can have Wheaton go to Central and Albion fly to Linfield. Which would make more sense. This scenario would then result in Wheaton going to UW-W in 2nd round and LaCrosse going to NCC 2nd round.

Wow Central, looks like we might as well turn in the shoulder pads after Saturday's game.

[MRMIKESMITH]

You can have Wheaton go to Central and Albion fly to Linfield. Which would make more sense. This scenario would then result in Wheaton going to UW-W in 2nd round and LaCrosse going to NCC 2nd round.

Wow Central, looks like we might as well turn in the shoulder pads after Saturday's game.

This is the conversation's that are typically had during playoffs or playoff bracket releases. I would think that the committee would give Central the benefit of the doubt of a 2/3 seed at least. As such, in this random scenario of projected lower seeds playing each other in 1st round, creates scenarios where teams that are ranked in Top 10 faceoff in both round 1 and round 2. This is a common complaint when in a bracket if funding was not an issue, you'd expect to see those matchups in the 3rd or 4th round. Nothing against Central, just projecting wins based off ranking. I know games are won on the field here in DIII land.

[Captainred81]

A)  What an awesome bracket... great job.  I think it's close for sure. 
B)  I think the if Carnegie Mellon wins that bid this weekend, they could be a team put in the bracket with the Texas or west teams.  It happens often.  This would move Aurora or Albion into the NCC/Mount Bracket. 
C)  I'm glad I'm not on the committee.  It seems this year, even more than in the past, is extremely difficult to choose which 5 teams get the pool C.  In the past it seems that only one was up for grabs because the 1 loss OAC, MIAC, WIAC, and ASC teams already had 4 of the 5.  Now it feels like there are 6-7 conference's that have that qualified 1 loss team.  CCIW, CC, LL, SAA... It it ended up with OAC, WIAC, CCIW, ASC, MIAC (if St.Johns loses to Bethel)...would anyone be surprised?  I wouldn't.  Would deserving teams get left out...you betcha...does one always get left out...you betcha..

I love this time of year

[UfanBill]

A)  What an awesome bracket... great job.  I think it's close for sure. 
B)  I think the if Carnegie Mellon wins that bid this weekend, they could be a team put in the bracket with the Texas or west teams.  It happens often.  This would move Aurora or Albion into the NCC/Mount Bracket. 
C)  I'm glad I'm not on the committee.  It seems this year, even more than in the past, is extremely difficult to choose which 5 teams get the pool C.  In the past it seems that only one was up for grabs because the 1 loss OAC, MIAC, WIAC, and ASC teams already had 4 of the 5.  Now it feels like there are 6-7 conference's that have that qualified 1 loss team.  CCIW, CC, LL, SAA... It it ended up with OAC, WIAC, CCIW, ASC, MIAC (if St.Johns loses to Bethel)...would anyone be surprised?  I wouldn't.  Would deserving teams get left out...you betcha...does one always get left out...you betcha..

I love this time of year

It's all in the perspective.... A fan of MTU, UMHB, UWW, STJU etc is just looking to see where their juggernaut is seeded while a fan of a team with regular but infrequent Playoff berths is just hoping to somehow get in.  There are only 5 Pool C's and the same "power conferences" seem to get them year after year. Who says a 9-1 OAC runner-up is better than a 9-1 runner-up from the Liberty League, CC or PAC? There's next to no crossover play to show a head to head. Yet again this year most of you expect the WIAC, MIAC, ASC, CCIW and OAC to send 2 teams. I'm a fan of a team in the 7th ranked conference in D3 football as determined by guru Greg Thomas (Wally Wabash). That would be the Liberty League. It's been a great year for the LL. Four different teams, Union, Ithaca, RPI and Hobart, have been ranked in the Top 25 at one point or another this season.  The LL has an outstanding 20-7 OOC record. Going into week #11 three teams are 8-1 with the fourth 7-2 and yes, the AQ is not settled yet. But this is about whether you love this time of year. After Saturday there will be a LL champ, Ithaca or RPI, or quite possibly 2 teams that finish 9-1, Ithaca and Union. Can a 9-1 LL runner-up get a Pool C?... Sure hope so...But history would indicate no. The LL(the 7th best conference in the country) hasn't had 2 teams in the tourney since 2006.  

Sure I love this time of year. The champ is determined on the field...I just wish "the field" wasn't so predetermined. 

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

A)  What an awesome bracket... great job.  I think it's close for sure. 
B)  I think the if Carnegie Mellon wins that bid this weekend, they could be a team put in the bracket with the Texas or west teams.  It happens often.  This would move Aurora or Albion into the NCC/Mount Bracket. 
C)  I'm glad I'm not on the committee.  It seems this year, even more than in the past, is extremely difficult to choose which 5 teams get the pool C.  In the past it seems that only one was up for grabs because the 1 loss OAC, MIAC, WIAC, and ASC teams already had 4 of the 5.  Now it feels like there are 6-7 conference's that have that qualified 1 loss team.  CCIW, CC, LL, SAA... It it ended up with OAC, WIAC, CCIW, ASC, MIAC (if St.Johns loses to Bethel)...would anyone be surprised?  I wouldn't.  Would deserving teams get left out...you betcha...does one always get left out...you betcha..

I love this time of year

It's all in the perspective.... A fan of MTU, UMHB, UWW, STJU etc is just looking to see where their juggernaut is seeded while a fan of a team with regular but infrequent Playoff berths is just hoping to somehow get in.  There are only 5 Pool C's and the same "power conferences" seem to get them year after year. Who says a 9-1 OAC runner-up is better than a 9-1 runner-up from the Liberty League, CC or PAC? There's next to no crossover play to show a head to head. Yet again this year most of you expect the WIAC, MIAC, ASC, CCIW and OAC to send 2 teams. I'm a fan of a team in the 7th ranked conference in D3 football as determined by guru Greg Thomas (Wally Wabash). That would be the Liberty League. It's been a great year for the LL. Four different teams, Union, Ithaca, RPI and Hobart, have been ranked in the Top 25 at one point or another this season.  The LL has an outstanding 20-7 OOC record. Going into week #11 three teams are 8-1 with the fourth 7-2 and yes, the AQ is not settled yet. But this is about whether you love this time of year. After Saturday there will be a LL champ, Ithaca or RPI, or quite possibly 2 teams that finish 9-1, Ithaca and Union. Can a 9-1 LL runner-up get a Pool C?... Sure hope so...But history would indicate no. The LL(the 7th best conference in the country) hasn't had 2 teams in the tourney since 2006.  

Sure I love this time of year. The champ is determined on the field...I just wish "the field" wasn't so predetermined.

To be fair, in that span since 2006 I think I counted just 1 team in pool C with 1 loss which was St Lawrence in 2016. That's more the reason why the LL hasn't had 2 teams in the tournament. No conference is going to get many 2nd teams in if they beat each other and take everyone out of Pool C consideration.
Worst case scenario for the LL this year is RPI wins and Ithaca loses... RPI gets pool A and both Ithaca and Union sit on the outside with 2 losses.

[IC798891]

The LL(the 7th best conference in the country) hasn't had 2 teams in the tourney since 2006.  

The LL hasn't been the 7th best conference in the country since 2006. They were downright terrible for some years at the start of the decade. The low point was probably 2010, when the Pool A St. Lawrence finished the season 5-5, getting waxed by 6-4 Ithaca and 5-5 Utica over in the E8.

Takes some time for a reputation to recover from that

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Rankings are out. Time for prognosticators to get busy
First things I noticed... BSC is indeed ahead of H-S in R3, Merchant Marine #2 in R1, Oshkosh behind Gustavus in R6