Bracketology Projection

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FCGrizzliesGrad

Bottom right quadrant

Wash & Lee @ Mount Union
Johns Hopkins @ Salisbury
Anna Maria @ Delaware Valley
Framingham St @ Muhlenberg

Final Pool C to be named is... Johns Hopkins. They had to be ahead of Ithaca in R2 and I think last off the board because I think Ithaca would have been in before Bethel.
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trickytroy32

 ??? Bethel ahead of HSU? Sorry but think the selection committee was smoking some crack or some politics going on.

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FCGrizzliesGrad

Quote from: trickytroy32 on November 14, 2021, 05:47:21 PM
??? Bethel ahead of HSU? Sorry but think the selection committee was smoking some crack or some politics going on.
Must have been the same stuff I've been smoking the past week according to some other posters ;)
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hazzben

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 14, 2021, 05:50:42 PM
Quote from: trickytroy32 on November 14, 2021, 05:47:21 PM
??? Bethel ahead of HSU? Sorry but think the selection committee was smoking some crack or some politics going on.
Must have been the same stuff I've been smoking the past week according to some other posters ;)

Am I right in reading this as though SJU got the top overall seed? With a monster SOS and 4-0 vs RRO, that makes sense.

SJU being a 1 seed (maybe top overall), and UMHB a 2 seed, would have been a significant argument in Bethel's favor. Plus a .060 gap in SOS and 1-2 v. RRO as opposed to 0-1.

thunderdog

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 14, 2021, 05:50:42 PM
Quote from: trickytroy32 on November 14, 2021, 05:47:21 PM
??? Bethel ahead of HSU? Sorry but think the selection committee was smoking some crack or some politics going on.
Must have been the same stuff I've been smoking the past week according to some other posters ;)
Kudos to you FCGrizz. You called 2-loss Bethel even before their 2nd loss.

trickytroy32

Any 8-2 team over a 9-1 ASC team is just idiotic. But bethel can make a case losing to St. John twice. But going off the critia hsu should of got picked over John Hopkins. Again Umhb faces probably a 3 seed where all the other 1 and 2s are facing joke teams that shouldn't even be there to start with. If I was in the ASC or west coast I would drop to naia. To much politics favoring east and north teams especially in the playoffs.

trickytroy32

He did pick HSU making it before bethel and John Hopkins

FCGrizzliesGrad

The order I think they went in... La Crosse was 1st, then Birmingham-Southern. I think Bethel went 3rd, Wheaton 4th, Johns Hopkins 5th. The only tossup there is Bethel/Wheaton at 3 and 4. Hopkins had to be last or Ithaca would have been in before Bethel, and with Bethel before Hopkins I think they were before Wheaton as well. I'm wondering if Randolph-Macon did end up ahead of Hardin-Simmons in the rankings because I would have taken H-S before Wheaton or Hopkins.
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USee

WashU was ranked in Region 5 so Wheaton was in before Bethel for sure and was either 2nd or 3rd Pool C. I heard if from a friend, who, heard it from a friend, who.........

Likely RMC got placed in the Three ahead of HSU and JH was blocking Ithaca. That's the only reason I see for HSU to get bounced.

FCG, the only reason I said you were smoking is there was no way 2 two loss teams were going before Wheaton. I didn't think it was preposterous that a 2 loss team made it.

MonroviaCat

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 14, 2021, 06:54:11 PM
The order I think they went in... La Crosse was 1st, then Birmingham-Southern. I think Bethel went 3rd, Wheaton 4th, Johns Hopkins 5th. The only tossup there is Bethel/Wheaton at 3 and 4. Hopkins had to be last or Ithaca would have been in before Bethel, and with Bethel before Hopkins I think they were before Wheaton as well. I'm wondering if Randolph-Macon did end up ahead of Hardin-Simmons in the rankings because I would have taken H-S before Wheaton or Hopkins.
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FCGrizzliesGrad

Final rankings clears some things up

Susquehanna did slip into the rankings to give Hopkins a RRO win
WashU snuck in as well to give Wheaton a RRO win.
Randolph-Macon blocked Hardin-Simmons from ever reaching the table.
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OzJohnnie

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 14, 2021, 07:39:10 PM
Final rankings clears some things up

Susquehanna did slip into the rankings to give Hopkins a RRO win
WashU snuck in as well to give Wheaton a RRO win.
Randolph-Macon blocked Hardin-Simmons from ever reaching the table.


I don't follow the south region close enough to answer this for myself.  Why did Birmingham-Southern get ranked ahead of Randolph-Macon and HSU?  If B-S could get ahead of R-M it looks from the stats like HSU could as well.  Did B-S have a RR victory?
  

MonroviaCat

Quote from: OzJohnnie on November 14, 2021, 07:50:45 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 14, 2021, 07:39:10 PM
Final rankings clears some things up

Susquehanna did slip into the rankings to give Hopkins a RRO win
WashU snuck in as well to give Wheaton a RRO win.
Randolph-Macon blocked Hardin-Simmons from ever reaching the table.


I don't follow the south region close enough to answer this for myself.  Why did Birmingham-Southern get ranked ahead of Randolph-Macon and HSU?  If B-S could get ahead of R-M it looks from the stats like HSU could as well.  Did B-S have a RR victory?
BS beat huntington--so yes--and was in a virtual tie with Trinity (they went for 2 and the win instead of kicking the PAT for the tie).  So I think the Committee wanted to keep them right there with Trinity.   HSU was behind Randolph Macon because of SOS.
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USee

So the Five and the Six stacked the bottom of the rankings to help the resumes of their top teams while the Two and the Three went straight win percentage followed by RRO/SOS, blocking a 2 loss team (Ithaca) from being considered. And with Susquehanna sneaking in Bethel was probably the last pool C picked.