2021 NCAA Tournament

[SimpleCoach]

The RC would've been for DOGSO ... but defenders in front of him.

By definition, DOGSO would not have defenders in front of him.  You take into account, the number of Defenders, Distance to the goal, Distance to the ball, and Direction of the play.... also known as the 4D's

There was maybe 1 or two defenders behind the ball.  Think one may have been tracking another player, but nonetheless.

Keep in mind that the foul occurred within Messiah's half.    Where DOGSO is committed matters as well.  If everyone was where they were but 25 yards out, then I think a case for a red would be legit. So think this fails the distance test.

The man was on the dribble, and he may have been trying to pass the ball.  Or it could have been the result of the foul.  Going by memory now.

And finally, yes it was going "toward goal" but as I mentioned ... distance.

By the Law, if anyone one of those is in question, there can be no red card.  Think the first two Ds would fill me with enough doubt.

[stlawus]

Anyone else hearing the banshee on the Cortland-Kean stream

[PaulNewman]

Congrats to Washington College....great story!

[Maine Soccer Fan]

The RC would've been for DOGSO ... but defenders in front of him.

By definition, DOGSO would not have defenders in front of him.  You take into account, the number of Defenders, Distance to the goal, Distance to the ball, and Direction of the play.... also known as the 4D's

There was maybe 1 or two defenders behind the ball.  Think one may have been tracking another player, but nonetheless.

Keep in mind that the foul occurred within Messiah's half.    Where DOGSO is committed matters as well.  If everyone was where they were but 25 yards out, then I think a case for a red would be legit. So think this fails the distance test.

The man was on the dribble, and he may have been trying to pass the ball.  Or it could have been the result of the foul.  Going by memory now.

And finally, yes it was going "toward goal" but as I mentioned ... distance.

By the Law, if anyone one of those is in question, there can be no red card.  Think the first two Ds would fill me with enough doubt.

Yes, yes, yes but what makes this so interesting is that the 'keeper is behind the player in possession. If a player gets dragged down from behind at midfield with no defenders to beat except the 'keeper it's a RC, even though the distance is great. So what happens when you drag down a player from behind with only one defender to beat, and not even beat, just hit a decent ball on frame over his head when the 'keeper is behind you?

[futbol_watcher]

If you are looking for the game video. They usually leave it up for 24 hours after the game.

Highlights including Kenyon's goal
https://youtu.be/WyOWOP4r3Dg

Full game
https://gomessiah.com/watch/?Live=547&type=Live

[Saint of Old]

Congrats to Washington College....great story!

Watched them  play  my Saints yesterday man.
They are absolutely a legit team.
If they score first, no team in the country will beat them in my opinion.
They beat a Montclair St. team  in their own home today.  A Montclair team that was absolutely a threat to make a run at it.
I think Washington is making their first or second NCAA appearance this year and just dropped a "Dos a Cero" on two traditional dancing teams over the weekend.

These boys deserve praise, but I'm sure they would tell you dont want it...not yet anyway.

[d4_Pace]

Washington College is legit and remind me a bit of the first Tufts run back in 2014. Super solid defensively and plenty of dangerous guys up front. Tufts are gonna need to play better than they did this weekend if they are going to advance to the elite 8.

[PaulNewman]

The RC would've been for DOGSO ... but defenders in front of him.

By definition, DOGSO would not have defenders in front of him.  You take into account, the number of Defenders, Distance to the goal, Distance to the ball, and Direction of the play.... also known as the 4D's

There was maybe 1 or two defenders behind the ball.  Think one may have been tracking another player, but nonetheless.

Keep in mind that the foul occurred within Messiah's half.    Where DOGSO is committed matters as well.  If everyone was where they were but 25 yards out, then I think a case for a red would be legit. So think this fails the distance test.

The man was on the dribble, and he may have been trying to pass the ball.  Or it could have been the result of the foul.  Going by memory now.

And finally, yes it was going "toward goal" but as I mentioned ... distance.

By the Law, if anyone one of those is in question, there can be no red card.  Think the first two Ds would fill me with enough doubt.

Yes, yes, yes but what makes this so interesting is that the 'keeper is behind the player in possession. If a player gets dragged down from behind at midfield with no defenders to beat except the 'keeper it's a RC, even though the distance is great. So what happens when you drag down a player from behind with only one defender to beat, and not even beat, just hit a decent ball on frame over his head when the 'keeper is behind you?

The focus on the Kenyon GK is such a distraction.  There was no indication the player was getting ready to shoot for goal unless you can read his mind.  There may have been two defenders back as well with either one having a chance to track a long ball attempt at goal.  The game was over (except for one more shot off the post lol).  The kid actually made a very smart play and gave Kenyon that last chance at the end.  Kenyon lost in part by not being up 2-1 or 3-1 and then Messiah likely doesn't get that chance in the 84th or 85th minute.  On the video I see that #21 put the pass thru his defender's legs and Hosmer-Quint unfortunately got caught 2 steps behind the goal scorer.  Initially looked like they had enough men back to cover that play.  Great pass and finish.  And as I see the save on Carson again still great but not quite as great as I thought.  And Carson could have made that easier going inside the near post in hindsight.  I bet Hosmer-Quint wishes he had that header that hit under the crossbar again too.

[lastguyoffthebench]

The RC would've been for DOGSO ... but defenders in front of him.

By definition, DOGSO would not have defenders in front of him.  You take into account, the number of Defenders, Distance to the goal, Distance to the ball, and Direction of the play.... also known as the 4D's

There was maybe 1 or two defenders behind the ball.  Think one may have been tracking another player, but nonetheless.

Keep in mind that the foul occurred within Messiah's half.    Where DOGSO is committed matters as well.  If everyone was where they were but 25 yards out, then I think a case for a red would be legit. So think this fails the distance test.

The man was on the dribble, and he may have been trying to pass the ball.  Or it could have been the result of the foul.  Going by memory now.

And finally, yes it was going "toward goal" but as I mentioned ... distance.

By the Law, if anyone one of those is in question, there can be no red card.  Think the first two Ds would fill me with enough doubt.

Yes, yes, yes but what makes this so interesting is that the 'keeper is behind the player in possession. If a player gets dragged down from behind at midfield with no defenders to beat except the 'keeper it's a RC, even though the distance is great. So what happens when you drag down a player from behind with only one defender to beat, and not even beat, just hit a decent ball on frame over his head when the 'keeper is behind you?

Even if this happened in Kenyon's half, there were about 3 defenders within close proximity to the ball.
I do not understand why the ref stopped the clock.  In that situation, you don't award the losing team the benefit of time.  You simply keep it running (at your discretion) under 5 min mark.

Note: Unfortunately, I didn't get to officiate any tournament games this season due to injury, but was on the 2019 Elite 8 match crew; Tufts v Conn...

[Hopkins92]

I've been traveling most of the day, but was able to tune into to see the kickoff for JCU-JHU... I haven't scrolled back, but if folks weren't aware, game was played in the snow.

2-1 to JCU. Bummer, but really not a lot to complain or take from a game that resembled US-CRC back in the day.

[Convict charlie]

Tufts avoids the upset of the tournament after *13* rounds of PKs...Stevens actually had a chance to put it away at one point, but Lauta came up with a huge save to keep them in it.

Way back in 2003, after a scoreless tie with #10 Salisbury in the second round, the Falcons lost 7-6 in PKs. I've never seen one go as long as that one today. Thought Stevens actually had it won, but Lauta came up big.

Brandt swore afterwards that he'd never lose another shootout. Henceforth, one of the Falcon keepers was always schooled on how to read the shooter. So, when Stevens and Messiah went to PKs in the national final in 2008, backup keeper Nick Blossie came in for the shootout and stoned all 3 of Stevens' shooters, while his teammates made theirs for a 3-0 win. He was then named the tournament MVP, even though he never stepped onto the field until the shootout. Congratulations to Tufts for surviving.

2007 I believe was the year. round of 32 after a first round bye medaille lost in the 20th shooter to Nazareth

[Gregory Sager]

Anyone else hearing the banshee on the Cortland-Kean stream

[Gregory Sager]

Congrats to Washington College....great story!

Watched them  play  my Saints yesterday man.
They are absolutely a legit team.
If they score first, no team in the country will beat them in my opinion.
They beat a Montclair St. team  in their own home today.  A Montclair team that was absolutely a threat to make a run at it.
I think Washington is making their first or second NCAA appearance this year and just dropped a "Dos a Cero" on two traditional dancing teams over the weekend.

These boys deserve praise, but I'm sure they would tell you dont want it...not yet anyway.

This is the first-ever appearance in the tourney for the Shoremen.

[Buck O.]

Tufts avoids the upset of the tournament after *13* rounds of PKs...Stevens actually had a chance to put it away at one point, but Lauta came up with a huge save to keep them in it.

Way back in 2003, after a scoreless tie with #10 Salisbury in the second round, the Falcons lost 7-6 in PKs. I've never seen one go as long as that one today.

I watched this game a few years ago:  https://ivyleague.com/news/2018/11/15/mens-soccer-princetons-falls-to-michigan-in-penalty-kick-shootout.aspx.  Fourteen rounds.  It was something else.

[Gregory Sager]

I've been traveling most of the day, but was able to tune into to see the kickoff for JCU-JHU... I haven't scrolled back, but if folks weren't aware, game was played in the snow.

So were some of the other games, including Chicago @ Otterbein. Kean @ Cortland was played in a constant flurry, and the pitch at Cortland was a giant Slip 'N Slide.