Transfers/Seniors with Remaining Eligibility

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Gregory Sager

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on June 07, 2023, 02:52:00 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on June 07, 2023, 11:32:54 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on June 06, 2023, 07:33:12 PM
Titan Q confirms Filip Bulatovic is returning to Carthage.

https://twitter.com/IWUhoopscom/status/1666133374208028673?t=gIbVzJfhFLHNhJ4PilNJ2Q&s=19

Old news. That was reported weeks ago.

Posting "I heard...," "Sources tell me..." and the like aren't really confirmations, in my opinion. So, when I post an actual confirmation, then it's new news, not old news. Nowadays, confirmations on social media aren't even confirmations. Jack Clement posted on Twitter he was committing to John Carroll and then deleted his post. So, lighten up a little.

Um, right back atcha. You didn't post an "actual confirmation," either. You posted a tweet from Bob that contained no attribution whatsoever -- no link, no quoted source. As you yourself said, "confirmations on social media aren't even confirmations." That goes for Bob just as much as it does for everybody else.

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on June 07, 2023, 02:52:00 PM
Did you tell Bob Quillman, who tweeted the "confirmation" that it was old news and that was reported weeks ago too?

Nope. Given the venue, I didn't see the need to do so.

For the record, I was told nearly a month ago by a member of a CCIW men's basketball coaching staff that Bulatovic was returning to Carthage. I've since encountered other CCIW men's basketball people who knew it and have discussed it with me. That's why I said "word on the street" when I disclosed it on CCIW Chat on May 10 -- it was open public knowledge, albeit not officially confirmed by a Carthage press release or a social-media post from Bulatovic himself, and I was not asked to keep it confidential. And, as I posted here this morning, Bulatovic's return to Kenosha made perfect sense to me when I was told this news, given his situation and Carthage's grad program offerings (which I learned in late April were more extensive than I'd originally thought).

Honestly, I got tired quite awhile ago of playing the "scoop" game. This isn't professional journalism operating on deadlines, with subscriptions, advertising money, etc., riding on who gets the word out first. That's more in line with what Pat Coleman and Dave McHugh, who have actual professional journalistic outlets that cover D3 men's basketball, do. The rest of us are nothing more than amateur sleuths. I understand the ego gratification involved in beating everyone else to breaking D3 sports news, but over the past several years it's dawned on me that it's kind of a petty and tiresome means to achieve a sense of public affirmation. It definitely lends itself to misuse -- I'm not talking about Bob here, but for an axe-grinder like Mark A. (AndOne/NextManUp) or an obnoxious troll such as the banned and unlamented poster who called himself itsnotmeitsyou, it can lead to invading privacy, getting out over your skis in terms of the reliability of your source, and crossing boundaries that shouldn't be crossed. And there's also the matter of how sleuths are perceived by the coaches and players of D3 men's basketball teams. No matter how affable and helpful coaches and players may be when approached, if you were to really hear what goes on behind the closed doors of locker rooms and coaches' offices, you'd see a lot of eye-rolling and hear a "he thinks he knows everything, but he has no idea at all" tenor of conversation when the subject is sleuths who aren't an actual part of the program. Illinois College head coach Steve Schweer stated it perfectly: "Anybody can buy a polo."

Honestly, if some Carthage poster such as mwunder or Kenosha Mark had beaten me to the punch last month and posted first on CCIW Chat that Bulatovic was coming back, it wouldn't have bothered me in the slightest. In fact, I would've preferred that, because: a) it's their team involved, not mine; and b) it would've made for livelier discussion on the board. Same deal with the comings and goings of the Elmhurst trio of Johnson and Zapinski (coming) and Hooker (going). The reason why I replied to you that Bob's tweet was old news was because it was really old news (nearly a month old, in fact), and because Bob hadn't actually confirmed anything.
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Gregory Sager

Yep. I get the sense that that's even more pertinent now than is usually the case.
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nescac1

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Latest updates:

D3 players who have announced transfer destination:

Raheem Anthony - St. Mary's to D1 St. Thomas
Alex Sobel - Middlebury to D1 Sacred Heart
Rodrick Payne - River Falls to D1 Western Illinois
Xzavier Lino - Whitman to D1 UMass-Lowell
Dylan Thoerner - Tufts to D1 UC-Irvine (awaiting confirmation on this report)
Cody Mitchell - IWU to NAIA/D2 Roosevelt University
Lucas Heflin - IWU to D2 Mississippi College
Dan Carr - Augustana to D2 Rockhurt University
Brock Voigt - Eau Clair to D2 Winona State
Jack Clement - OWU to John Carroll (tweet deleted so apparently reconsidering)
Josh Decker - Kalamazoo to Hope
Colin Kahl - Sewanee to CWRU
Tautvydas Kupstas - Skidmore to D2 West Florida
Lyle Tipton - Geneva to D2 Gannon
Jamal Cannady - Bryn Athyn to D2 Trevecca
Malcolm Noel - Covenant to D2 West Georgia
Nathan Scheider - Pitt Bradford to D2 Gannon
Cooper Wirkala - Colby to Thomas
Elijah Williams - Gettysburg to D1 Howard
Anthony Mazzeo - Baldwin Wallace to Case Western
Preston Maccoux - Wesleyan to Case Western
Richie Manigault - Washington & Lee to Case Western



Transferring from scholarship level to D3:

Zac Johnson - D2 Augustana University to River Falls
Austin Murrow - D2 Central Missouri to Simpson
Patrick Renane - D2 Chaminade to Cal Lutheran
Adam Dudzinski - D2 St. Rose to St. Lawrence
Max Schneider - D2 St. Rose to St. John Fisher
Brandon Upshaw - D1 FDU (walk-on) to Kean
Christian Stanislav - D2 Northwest Missouri State to Buena Vista
Calvin Thomas - D2 Wilmington to Salisbury
Trey Brooks - D2 Lake Erie to North Park
Caden Hoffman - D2 Concordia St Paul to Wisconsin Stout
Luke Yoder - D1 North Dakota State to Illinois Wesleyan
Jackson Watson - D1 Bowling Green (PWO) to Wisconsin Stevens-Point
Trip Riemersma - D2 Saginaw Valley to Calvin
Quinn Pemberton - D1 Boston College (walk-on) to Elmhurst
Mykel Derring  - D1 Merrimack to Nichols
Jake Fisher - D1 Western Illinois (walk-on) to Whitewater



In the transfer portal:

Brendan Mora - Pomona
Will King - Colby
Wesley Hooker - Elmhurst
Josh Angle - CMC
Bryan Adams - Elmira
Aireus Raspberry - Johnson & Wales
Blake Lander - Whittier


Reportedly, or potentially, returning for another year to their current program:

Jeff Hunter - Keene State
Spencer Freedman - NYU
Michael Savarino - NYU
Cole Frilling - CWRU (possibly, but reportedly unlikely)
Ryan Clements - HSC
Josiah Johnson - MHB
Collen Gurley - Mount Union
Daniel Cook - St. John Fisher
Jonathan Zapinski - Elmhurst
Ocean Johnson - Elmhurst
Filip Bulatovic - Carthage
Bryce Hopkins - UChicago


Done with college hoops despite a fifth year they could have used:

Levi Borchert - Oshkosh
Miles Mallory - RMC
Josh Talbert - RMC


Intentions unknown:

John Lowther - WPI
Greg Rowson - UMW (injured and did not play in 21-22, in addition to the COVID year - not listed as graduating so I suspect returning)

Gregory Sager

That is one heck of a haul for Case Western Reserve. If the chemistry turns out to be right, CWRU may have moved into national contention with those three additions.
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Greek Tragedy

Those are some huge additions, but mind you, they lose Frilling, Frauenheim and Prendergast.
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stlawus

The extra year was good in theory and I know there's only two more years of it but it's greatly devalued the equity of division III.  Schools with extensive grad programs have a major advantage over everyone else. 

WUPHF

Quote from: stlawus on June 15, 2023, 09:46:09 PM
The extra year was good in theory and I know there's only two more years of it but it's greatly devalued the equity of division III.  Schools with extensive grad programs have a major advantage over everyone else.

*A few schools with extensive grad programs.

stlawus

No, any school with extensive grad programs.   

ADL70

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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on June 15, 2023, 09:37:35 PM
Those are some huge additions, but mind you, they lose Frilling, Frauenheim and Prendergast.

6"8 Hunter Drenth a key reserve as a SO in 21-22 who DNP in 22-23 [edit] plans to return as well.
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Quote from: stlawus on June 16, 2023, 01:00:42 AM
No, any school with extensive grad programs.

I might agree that schools with extensive graduate programs have a potential advantage, but I am not sure if that is how it has played out.  I would have to do more research to know, but most fifth year guys are either pursuing a fifth year of undergraduate coursework or graduate program in Business or Finance.  The latter are offered (or could be offered) by the St. Lawrence's of the world.  And for every Case Western Reserve, there is more than one Nichols or Wheaton (IL) or Central (IA) or UW-Lacrosse with fifth year guys.

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Gregory Sager

Quote from: ADL70 on June 16, 2023, 08:08:37 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on June 15, 2023, 09:37:35 PM
Those are some huge additions, but mind you, they lose Frilling, Frauenheim and Prendergast.

6"8 Hunter Drenth a key reserve as a SO in 21-22 who DNP in 22-23 [edit] plans to return as well.

And 6'7" center Colin Kahl from Sewanee, who averaged 16.6 and 6.2 for the Tigers last season, is also going to CWRU as a grad student ... so there's another one for nescac1's list.
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Greek Tragedy

Quote from: Gregory Sager on June 16, 2023, 06:37:01 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on June 16, 2023, 08:08:37 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on June 15, 2023, 09:37:35 PM
Those are some huge additions, but mind you, they lose Frilling, Frauenheim and Prendergast.

6"8 Hunter Drenth a key reserve as a SO in 21-22 who DNP in 22-23 [edit] plans to return as well.

And 6'7" center Colin Kahl from Sewanee, who averaged 16.6 and 6.2 for the Tigers last season, is also going to CWRU as a grad student ... so there's another one for nescac1's list.

He's already on it.  ;D
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