2022 Playoffs

Started by Ralph Turner, May 16, 2022, 02:16:42 PM

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 I've never understood why either of these is better than the old 8-team double-elimination format.  ::)

Ralph Turner

Quote from: cubs on June 07, 2022, 12:18:55 AM
Pat, Ralph, or others....

Has there ever been any discussion of having the Winner's Bracket losers (theoretically Games #7 and #8) switch pools after they lose for the D3 Baseball Tournament now that they've made the move to Pools instead of the traditional 8-team Bracket?

It honestly never crossed my mind until I was watching the D1 Women's College World Series and they mentioned that Texas and Oklahoma started in the same pool.  After they lost to Oklahoma, they went into the other pool and ended up winning three straight games and will face Oklahoma again, but now in the best-of-three series for the National Championship and not in an elimination game like the D3 baseball bracket is constructed.  It doesn't cause any extra games to be played, and to be honest, I kind of like the concept behind it.

Thoughts?
So loser of Game 3 would come back faster to play Loser of Game 1 in Game 5, the first game of the 2nd day. Loser of Game 4 would need to come back "faster" to play loser of Game 2 in the second game of Day 2, Game 6.

What happens with weather postponements when Game 4 starts at 10 AM on Day 2 and Game 6 starts at 6 PM later that day? Loser of Game 2 would be much more rested.

cubs

Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 08, 2022, 12:49:15 AM
So loser of Game 3 would come back faster to play Loser of Game 1 in Game 5, the first game of the 2nd day. Loser of Game 4 would need to come back "faster" to play loser of Game 2 in the second game of Day 2, Game 6.

What happens with weather postponements when Game 4 starts at 10 AM on Day 2 and Game 6 starts at 6 PM later that day? Loser of Game 2 would be much more rested.
No... This doesn't come into play until the end of the second round, so the first 8 games remain set up exactly as they are now.

Using this year's bracket as a reference piece, once Marietta lost to Salisbury and La Grange lost to ECSU, they would've swapped pools. La Grange would've faced UWSP in an elimination game while Marietta would've played Trinity.

I can see your point though in this situation as La Grange played the last game of Day #2 and then would be scheduled for the first game of Day #3. That said, you could flip flop the La Grange vs UWSP and Marietta vs Salisbury games to give La Grange the second game of Day #3, which is when they played this year anyway.
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Quote from: cubs on June 08, 2022, 10:32:35 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 08, 2022, 12:49:15 AM
So loser of Game 3 would come back faster to play Loser of Game 1 in Game 5, the first game of the 2nd day. Loser of Game 4 would need to come back "faster" to play loser of Game 2 in the second game of Day 2, Game 6.

What happens with weather postponements when Game 4 starts at 10 AM on Day 2 and Game 6 starts at 6 PM later that day? Loser of Game 2 would be much more rested.
No... This doesn't come into play until the end of the second round, so the first 8 games remain set up exactly as they are now.

Using this year's bracket as a reference piece, once Marietta lost to Salisbury and La Grange lost to ECSU, they would've swapped pools. La Grange would've faced UWSP in an elimination game while Marietta would've played Trinity.

I can see your point though in this situation as La Grange played the last game of Day #2 and then would be scheduled for the first game of Day #3. That said, you could flip flop the La Grange vs UWSP and Marietta vs Salisbury games to give La Grange the second game of Day #3, which is when they played this year anyway.
Thank for the clarificaiton, Cubs.  I think that we ought to look at this more carefully.

So we flip the losers of Games 6 and 8 into the opposite brackets...

Now I need to play with the brackets so one team does not get smited by the diurnal rhythms.