UAA Soccer 2022

[Saint of Old]

Currently enjoying Cortland v. SLU with great video and excellent commentary.

Play by play as well as analyst doing a great job together.

Top quality stuff.

[Kuiper]

With conference play beginning this weekend in the UAA, this will be the first opportunity to really gauge the strength of the teams relative to each other since they haven't played common opponents for the most part.  Can anyone challenge Chicago?  Carnegie Mellon plays the kind of defensive game that at least has a chance to keep Chicago at bay, but their schedule thus far hasn't presented them with a test near as stout as U of C.  Plus, Carnegie Mellon plays Chicago away and then Wash U away on the 14th/16th, which is a tough road trip most years.  Most of the UAA teams have shown the ability to rise to the occasion against strong teams and play a close game this season.  NYU only lost 2-1 to both Messiah and Stevens, Emory tied both Wash & Lee (2-2) and Hopkins (0-0), Case beat Otterbein 2-1 and tied John Carroll 2-2, and Brandeis tied Denison 0-0 and beat Babson 2-1.

[ballboy]

Predictions for this weekend's games
NYU 1-2 CMU
Brandeis 0-2 Case
WashU 0-0 Emory
Chicago 3-1 Rochester

[Kuiper]

NYU beats Carnegie Mellon 2-0.  Is this the clock striking midnight for CMU or just a momentary blip?  Game seemed fairly even on the stats, except for corner kicks where CMU held the edge 7-1.  I always thought NYU had a chance to make some noise in the UAA.  They had a 3-3-1 record coming into the game, but the 2-1 loss to Messiah suggested that they could hang with anyone.

Case Western Reserve beat Brandeis 4-0.  Case was already up 1-0 in the 19th minute when a Brandeis player was ejected on a second yellow card and it was all Case after that, with Case outshooting Brandeis 18-4

Wash U beat Emory 2-1.  Emory's goal was scored in the 87th minute, but it was too little too late.

[WUPHF]

Wash U beat Emory 2-1.  Emory's goal was scored in the 87th minute, but it was too little too late.

0-0 was a good prediction as Owen Culver did not play. Culver is 5th in the league in both goals scored and points and the only one on the team to score more than one goal through 7 games.  Nice win for the Bears today.

[Coach Jeff]

With such a large endowment you would think Rochester U would want people to watch their games.  It might help them be seen by recruits and other interested fans.  Come on RU you need to stop hiding behind your PAYWALL.

[Gregory Sager]

It's the University of Rochester (UR), not Rochester University (RU).

I call the UR paywall "the Rochacha gotcha".

[WUPHF]

The University of Rochester has been colloquially referred to as "Rochester U" since its inception and is the use is appropriate, if old fashioned, as long as the context would not allow the University to be confused with the other 4-5 institutions with Rochester in the name.

I am sure the communication professionals at Rochester would advise otherwise, but that is to be expected.  Officially, the use of WashU or Wash.U. was prohibited in official communications until 5-7 years ago.

And speaking of Rochester, the Yellowjackets played Washington University more or less evenly through 90 minutes on Sunday.  Both teams deserved overtime. 

I do not understand the new rules.

[camosfan]

what happened to games that ended in a tie after overtime under previous rules?

[WUPHF]

what happened to games that ended in a tie after overtime under previous rules?

Is this a rhetorical question?

Personally, I like the resets and the extra minutes that come with the overtimes, but if the coaches prefer the new rules, I can live with it.

[camosfan]

extra time is 'ironman feature' pro don't do that,  students should not be subjected to that rigor. I think over time as teams adjust to the new rule we will see more exciting games.

[Coach Jeff]

I am ok either way but the one negative I see is that it actually hurts the teams that actually have deep benches.  D1 schools do not use their bench as often so let's face it the decision is made from the D1 programs not D2 or D3.  They want it to be more like International programs.  A lot of D3 student athletes go to colleges of their choice to play the game they love (without any athletic scholarships) not just watch every game from the side lines

[PaulNewman]

Rochester and Wash U might have played another hour without a goal.  Iirc, there were days in past years before OT was dropped where all four UAA games ended in draws.  Draws also have been frequent in NESCAC for years as well.

It is interesting to me the amount of strong opinion expended around the change to no overtime, and similarly the substitution rules.

It seems that a majority (not sure how much of a majority) would prefer overtime periods.  I lean towards preferring the new rule but I also would have been fine with just getting rid of golden goal (which I personally think is more fair if the concern is the likelihood that a superior team will prevail).  That said, I would reiterate the very compressed season and that many (most) teams seem to have 3-5 injuries at any given time (and a couple of those may be season-ending).  I also would note for the traditionalists that no professional league that I am aware of plays overtime periods until playoff, knock-out situations.  The World Cup doesn't have OTs in group play. 

At any rate, now combine the compressed schedule, playing out two OTs (with golden goal or without), and allowing only 3-5 subs with no re-entry.  When do the various factors in combination add up to survival of the fittest (and good fortune) more so than rules adjustments in the name of enhancing the beautiful game?

There's no question that we are getting far more draws.  I'm not convinced that this is because more teams are playing for draws.  In fact, I'd bet that while draws have risen dramatically we've also seen a dramatic rise in goals scored in the final 2-3 minutes (either to level or to win).

[camosfan]

I am ok either way but the one negative I see is that it actually hurts the teams that actually have deep benches.  D1 schools do not use their bench as often so let's face it the decision is made from the D1 programs not D2 or D3.  They want it to be more like International programs.  A lot of D3 student athletes go to colleges of their choice to play the game they love (without any athletic scholarships) not just watch every game from the side lines

You will see more rotation of starters, back 4 and keeper as regulars and  almost every other stop rotating starts.

[Hopkins92]

Rochester and Wash U might have played another hour without a goal.  Iirc, there were days in past years before OT was dropped where all four UAA games ended in draws.  Draws also have been frequent in NESCAC for years as well.

It is interesting to me the amount of strong opinion expended around the change to no overtime, and similarly the substitution rules.

It seems that a majority (not sure how much of a majority) would prefer overtime periods.  I lean towards preferring the new rule but I also would have been fine with just getting rid of golden goal (which I personally think is more fair if the concern is the likelihood that a superior team will prevail).  That said, I would reiterate the very compressed season and that many (most) teams seem to have 3-5 injuries at any given time (and a couple of those may be season-ending).  I also would note for the traditionalists that no professional league that I am aware of plays overtime periods until playoff, knock-out situations.  The World Cup doesn't have OTs in group play. 

At any rate, now combine the compressed schedule, playing out two OTs (with golden goal or without), and allowing only 3-5 subs with no re-entry.  When do the various factors in combination add up to survival of the fittest (and good fortune) more so than rules adjustments in the name of enhancing the beautiful game?

There's no question that we are getting far more draws.  I'm not convinced that this is because more teams are playing for draws.  In fact, I'd bet that while draws have risen dramatically we've also seen a dramatic rise in goals scored in the final 2-3 minutes (either to level or to win).

It's almost like we need to dredge up that thread, because this OT conversation is cropping up multiple places.

So, apologies UAA aficionados for the mini-threadjack, but I wanted to come in and thank PN for typing this out... This is EXACTLY how I feel about the OT rules.