2022 NCAA Regional Rankings

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I had some time this afternoon while on a boring Teams call to take a look at some of the prior year SOS numbers for Regional Rankings.  I went back and started at 2015 and I looked at 2015, 2016, and 2017 to determine any RR for a team below an arbitrary 0.525 SOS.  There are some instances of teams coming in below the 0.500 mark, but they are few and far between.  It was interesting reading to compile this and I wish I had time to format it better. Enjoy!

These came directly from the Regional Ranking archives on D3Soccer.com.

Oct 21 2015
MIT 0.497 (10th, New England Region)
Wentworth 0.512 (11th, New England Region)
Bridgewater State 0.505 (12th, New England Region)

Oct 28, 2015
Gordon 0.512 (9th, New England Region)
Endicott 0.496 (12th, New England Region)
Eastern 0.508 (5th, Mid-Atlantic Region)
Kenyon 0.489 (7th, Great Lakes Region)
Calvin 0.509 (3rd, Central Region)
Trinity (Texas) 0.525 (1st, West Region)
Redlands 0.518 (2nd, West Region)
Whitworth 0.501 (4th, West Region)

Nov 4, 2015
Endicott 0.504 (11th, New England Region)
3 other teams in New England Region (Eastern Connecticut, Gordon, Wentworth) just percentage points higher than 0.525
Elizabethtown 0.525 (4th, Mid-Atlantic Region)
Eastern 0.506 (8th, Mid-Atlantic Region)
Kenyon 0.510 (4th, Great Lakes Region)
Rose-Hulman 0.511 (7th, Great Lakes Region)
Calvin 0.518 (5th, Central Region)
Trinity (Texas) 0.521 (1st, West Region)
Colorado College 0.524 (2nd, West Region)
Redlands 0.508 (3rd, West Region)
Whitworth 0.498 (4th, West Region)




Oct 19, 2016
Lebanon Valley 0.516 (8th, Mid-Atlantic)
Johns Hopkins 0.519 (9th, Mid-Atlantic)
Calvin 0.518 (6th, Central Region)
St. Norbert 0.525 (6th, North Region)
Redlands 0.522 (4th, West Region)

Oct 26, 2016
Johns Hopkins 0.522 (7th, Mid-Atlantic Region)
Ohio Northern 0.515 (4th, Great Lakes Region)
Kenyon 0.507 (6th, Great Lakes Region)
Calvin 0.513 (5th, Central Region)
Benedictine 0.516 (6th, Central Region)
St. Norbert 0.521 (6th, North Region)

Nov 2, 2016
Johns Hopkins 0.511 (7th, Mid-Atlantic Region)
Kenyon 0.525 (3rd, Great Lakes Region)
Ohio Northern 0.508 (5th, Great Lakes Region)
Benedictine 0.524 (4th, Central Region)
Dominican 0.524 (5th, Central Region)
Calvin 0.501 (6th, Central Region)
Colorado College 0.522 (4th, West Region)

Nov 7, 2016
Springfield 0.513 (11th, New England Region)
Johns Hopkins 0.520 (6th, Mid-Atlantic Region)
Ohio Northern 0.524 (6th, Great Lakes Region)
Calvin 0.515 (4th, Central Region)
Dominican 0.524 (6th, Central Region)




2017 was the first year that the ranking committee included D3 SOS and Non-conf SOS

Oct 18, 2017
Drew 0.515 (7th, Mid-Atlantic Region)
Lebanon Valley 0.522 (8th, Mid-Atlantic Region)
Eastern 0.497 (10th, Mid-Atlantic Region)
St. Norbert 0.524 (4th, North Region)
Simpson 0.518 (7th, North Region)
Mary Hardin-Baylor 0.517 (4th, West Region)
University of Dallas 0.501 (5th, West Region)

Oct 25, 2017
Johnson & Wales 0.517 (10th, New England)
WPI 0.521 (12th, New England)
Concordia (Wis.) 0.511 (6th, Central Region)
St. Norbert 0.515 (6th, North Region)
Mary Hardin-Baylor 0.521 (3rd, West Region)
University of Dallas 0.492 (6th, West Region)

Nov 1, 2017
Endicott 0.521 (10th, New England Region)
Drew 0.521 (6th, Mid-Atlantic Region)
Calvin 0.511 (4th, Central Region)
Simpson 0.524 (6th, North Region)
University of Dallas 0.497 (6th, West Region)

Nov 7, 2017
Johnson & Wales 0.524 (8th, New England Region)
St. Joseph's (Maine) 0.499 (11th, New England Region)
Drew 0.522 (6th, Mid-Atlantic Region)

Christan Shirk

REGION I - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - November 02, 2022

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Amherst
10-1-5
0.612
3-1-4
10-1-5
1
2.
Middlebury
10-3-3
0.606
2-3-3
10-3-3
3
3.
Bowdoin
11-1-4
0.560
2-1-4
11-1-4
2
4.
Tufts
7-2-7
0.587
2-1-5
7-2-7
5
5.
Williams
6-1-9
0.586
2-1-6
6-1-9
7
6.
Hamilton
8-4-4
0.593
3-4-1
8-4-4
4
7.
Western Connecticut
19-0-1
0.513
1-0-1
19-0-1
--

REGION II - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - November 02, 2022

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Babson
13-3-2
0.568
3-2-2
13-3-2
1
2.
Endicott
12-3-4
0.539
1-1-1
12-4-4
2
3.
WPI
7-4-6
0.595
2-2-4
7-4-6
3
4.
Wheaton (Mass.)
8-4-6
0.559
0-1-5
8-4-6
6
5.
Coast Guard
10-3-4
0.520
0-1-3
10-3-4
4
6.
Roger Williams
12-3-4
0.515
0-2-1
12-3-4
5

REGION III - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - November 02, 2022

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Oneonta State
12-2-2
0.551
5-0-0
12-2-2
2
2.
Cortland State
12-4-2
0.580
4-4-0
12-4-2
1
3.
Vassar
9-3-4
0.593
1-3-4
9-3-4
3
4.
St. Lawrence
11-1-5
0.546
3-1-2
11-1-5
5
5.
Skidmore
8-3-5
0.552
1-2-4
8-3-5
--
6.
New Paltz State
9-5-3
0.581
1-4-1
9-5-3
6
7.
Hobart
8-4-5
0.553
2-3-2
8-4-5
--

REGION IV - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - November 02, 2022

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Stevens
14-0-2
0.569
5-0-0
14-0-2
1
2.
Montclair State
13-1-4
0.545
2-1-1
13-1-4
2
3.
New York University
8-4-3
0.625
2-4-2
8-4-3
3
4.
Rowan
10-5-4
0.576
3-3-1
10-5-4
6
5.
Lycoming
10-4-5
0.564
0-4-3
10-4-5
5
6.
Lancaster Bible
12-3-3
0.502
1-0-2
12-3-3
7
7.
Misericordia
11-3-4
0.514
1-1-0
11-3-4
4

REGION V - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - November 02, 2022

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Messiah
17-0-1
0.569
6-0-1
17-0-1
1
2.
Johns Hopkins
11-1-5
0.574
4-1-1
11-1-5
2
3.
Franklin and Marshall
12-1-4
0.583
1-1-2
12-1-4
3
4.
Catholic
11-2-4
0.575
1-1-2
11-2-4
4
5.
Drew
12-2-4
0.565
1-1-1
12-2-4
5
6.
Alvernia
11-3-5
0.530
2-2-0
11-3-5
6
7.
Gettysburg
9-3-5
0.556
0-2-3
9-3-5
7
Christan Shirk
Special Consultant and Advisor
D3soccer.com

Christan Shirk

REGION VI - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - November 02, 2022

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Christopher Newport
11-3-1
0.593
3-3-1
11-3-1
3
2.
Washington and Lee
12-2-4
0.588
1-1-3
12-2-4
1
3.
Mary Washington
9-4-2
0.600
3-3-1
9-4-2
2
4.
Lynchburg
11-2-5
0.559
1-0-3
11-2-5
4
5.
Virginia Wesleyan
11-3-4
0.548
0-3-2
12-3-4
5
6.
Sewanee
13-3-0
0.505
1-1-0
13-3-0
6
7.
Covenant
8-3-5
0.524
0-2-1
8-3-5
7

REGION VII - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - November 02, 2022

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Kenyon
15-0-1
0.532
4-0-1
15-0-1
1
2.
Ohio Northern
13-2-3
0.583
3-2-1
13-2-3
2
3.
John Carroll
13-4-1
0.585
2-4-1
13-4-1
3
4.
Carnegie Mellon
11-3-1
0.573
2-3-1
11-3-1
4
5.
Case Western Reserve
8-3-3
0.598
2-2-3
8-3-3
5
6.
Ohio Wesleyan
8-4-4
0.588
1-4-2
8-4-4
6
7.
Rose-Hulman
12-1-3
0.510
0-1-1
12-1-3
--

REGION VIII - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - November 02, 2022

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Chicago
15-0-1
0.607
9-0-1
15-0-1
1
2.
North Central (Ill.)
14-0-4
0.547
3-0-2
14-0-4
2
3.
North Park
13-2-2
0.541
3-2-2
13-2-2
3
4.
Calvin
12-2-1
0.545
2-1-0
14-2-2
4
5.
MSOE
13-2-4
0.532
1-0-0
13-2-4
7
6.
Wheaton (Ill.)
8-4-4
0.534
2-3-1
8-4-4
6
7.
Carthage
8-6-5
0.562
1-4-2
8-6-5
--

REGION IX - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - November 02, 2022

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Gustavus Adolphus
13-0-4
0.558
3-0-2
13-0-4
1
2.
UW-Eau Claire
18-2-0
0.548
4-1-0
18-2-0
2
3.
St. Olaf
11-5-1
0.582
2-4-0
11-5-1
4
4.
UW-Platteville
12-4-2
0.582
3-4-1
12-4-2
3
5.
Wartburg
7-2-9
0.553
2-1-4
7-2-9
5
6.
Luther
10-3-5
0.550
2-3-1
10-3-5
6
7.
UW-Whitewater
12-6-1
0.531
2-3-1
12-6-1
--

REGION X - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - November 02, 2022

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Willamette
12-2-3
0.544
3-2-0
10-1-2
1
2.
Pacific Lutheran
15-3-0
0.531
2-3-0
15-3-0
3
3.
Mary Hardin-Baylor
9-2-2
0.544
2-1-0
11-2-2
2
4.
Southwestern
8-5-2
0.551
1-4-1
8-5-2
--
5.
St. Thomas (Texas)
12-1-3
0.503
2-1-2
12-1-3
4
6.
Trinity (Texas)
8-4-3
0.541
1-3-2
8-4-3
7
7.
Whitman
9-6-1
0.530
3-1-0
11-7-1
5
Christan Shirk
Special Consultant and Advisor
D3soccer.com

MNBob

@Christan: Are the RvR shown the "results versus teams ranked in either the third weekly rankings or the final rankings" as described here?

Christan Shirk

Quote from: MNBob on November 02, 2022, 03:54:25 PM
@Christan: Are the RvR shown the "results versus teams ranked in either the third weekly rankings or the final rankings" as described here?

For this week's rankings (11/2), the Results versus Ranked (RvR) refers to results versus teams ranked in last week's rankings (10/26).  The final rankings will only be done next Monday, so it can't be based on that.  And the selection/ranking committee can't know the results versus teams ranked in the third weekly rankings while they are still deliberating over the third weekly rankings.  So, if you look at the article you cited, here's the key part to understanding this:

Quote"Results versus ranked teams" criteria spelled out

For the . . .

first weekly rankings:  N/A (no previous rankings)

second weekly rankings:  results versus teams ranked in the first weekly rankings

third weekly ranking:  results versus teams ranked in the second weekly rankings

final rankings:  results versus teams ranked in the third weekly rankings

at-large selections:  results versus teams ranked in either the third weekly rankings or the final rankings
Christan Shirk
Special Consultant and Advisor
D3soccer.com

PaulNewman

Cristan, for whatever reason the 2021 RR are coming up on the home page link.

Christan Shirk

Quote from: PaulNewman on November 02, 2022, 04:36:56 PM
Cristan, for whatever reason the 2021 RR are coming up on the home page link.
Thanks.  It's been fixed.
Christan Shirk
Special Consultant and Advisor
D3soccer.com

PaulNewman

Cristan, in your article/guide you have a box chart that says men have 43 AQs, 1 Pool B, and 21 Pool Cs...and just the to left of those numbers you have calculations that would suggest 20 Pool Cs.  Is it 20 or 21.  I'm assuming 20 since 43+1 =44 and 20 more maxes field out at 64. 

And I assume it's not a leap to say UWEC will be the Pool B, and thus not potentially taking one of the Pool C spots.

Christan Shirk

Quote from: PaulNewman on November 02, 2022, 06:14:22 PM
Cristan, in your article/guide you have a box chart that says men have 43 AQs, 1 Pool B, and 21 Pool Cs...and just the to left of those numbers you have calculations that would suggest 20 Pool Cs.  Is it 20 or 21.  I'm assuming 20 since 43+1 =44 and 20 more maxes field out at 64. 

And I assume it's not a leap to say UWEC will be the Pool B, and thus not potentially taking one of the Pool C spots.

Yes, it is 20 Pool C at-large berths.  Thanks for pointing out the error so I could get it corrected.

The only other Pool B team that is regionally ranked is Covenant at #7 in Region VI.  UW-Eau Claire is done playing while Covenent has the CCS final against La Grange.  While a Covenant win will improve their win pct. and their SOS will climb a little given La Grange is a .700 team, that won't come close to closing the gap on Eau Claire.  Yes, I think it's safe to mark UW-Eau Claire down in ink as the Pool B at-large berth.
Christan Shirk
Special Consultant and Advisor
D3soccer.com

4samuy

Chris,

Does usc rankings = NCAA regional rankings?

College Soccer Observer

Saving Christan from having to reply:  The answer is no, the USC rankings are different from the NCAA rankings.

4samuy

#41
Thanks college soccer observer!

That's what I thought.  IMO when the committee gets together this weekend, although not published, they
Will do Their hypothetical rankings, such as who is the top seed in the tournament and on down.  I would throw this out to the boards,  who do you think hypothetically would be the top four "seeds" come tournament selection time, based on primary and secondary criteria that were posted in the regional rankings yesterday?  IMHO it goes deeper than the information that was presented, but if you do your research you will probably be able to come to some conclusions.

jknezek

Quote from: 4samuy on November 03, 2022, 02:55:45 PM
Thanks college soccer observer!

That's what I thought.  IMO when the committee gets together this weekend, although not published, they will do
Their hypothetical rankings, such as who is the top seed in the tournament and on down.  I would throw this out to the boards,  who do think hypothetically would be the top four "seeds" come tournament selection time, based on primary and secondary criteria?

Assuming everyone holds serve through conference tournaments or, in Chicago's case, their last couple games...
Messiah, Chicago are easy. Winning Percentage drives Messiah, who has a good enough SoS for a team with a single blemish. And Chicago, who has both winning percentage and SoS and a ridiculous number of RROs.

Then I think Kenyon. That winning percentage is good, the RROs are good enough, but they do have the worst SoS of any top ranked Regionally Ranked team. However, ranked 1st, with only 1 blemish. I think they get the nod.

That just leaves the tough last one. Do you reward Stevens winning percentage and 5-0+ RvR, or Amherst's ridiculous SoS and 8+ RR games? I'd lean Amherst, but a case can be made for Stevens.

Structuring them as 1-2-3-4 I'd go Chicago, Messiah, Kenyon, Amherst. However, if Stevens gets in over Amherst, I'd put Stevens the 3 seed and Kenyon the 4th. Because Stevens has a better SoS and RRO resume than Kenyon, it outweighs the extra tie to me.

Chicago's resume has more RRO, bigger SoS, than Messiah and Kenyon and the same winning % as Kenyon. Messiah has a hair better winning % than either, but not the RRO or SoS to catch Chicago. However, they do have more RROs and a better SoS than Kenyon.

I think 1-2 are clear. 3/4 are harder.

4samuy

Jknezek,

Well thought out response based on all the criteria the NCAA committee looks at.  Yes messiah has a top winning percentage, Chicago has a top SOS and RVR. But Messiah has an advantage as it relates to common opponent. Messiah beat NYU at home earlier this year 2-1. Chicago went on the road last week at NYU and drew 0-0. I don't think the common opponent will trump the primary criteria currently but could become a factor after this weekends results.

IMO, Chicago could have done a better job of scheduling over the last couple of weeks and could have put at least on more game on the schedule.

As far as RVR ,  pure numbers give the advantage to Chicago,  10 messiah 7, if you peel back the onion a bit, 5 of Chicago's RVRs are in the so called "top half" of regionally ranked as to messiahs 4. So although Chicago seems to have the RVR advantage, the quality of those are quite similar.

SOS is where IMHO Chicago separates themselves and woul give them the hypothetical number 1 seed in the tournament.


As far as 3 and 4, as much as I think Amherst will be an extremely tough out in the tournament, and the Nescac are the darlings of the Ncaa :) looking at the numbers their 10 wins imho does not get them into the top four.

So IMHO that leaves Kenyon and Stevens.

I think Stevens gets 3 just due to their SOS. And Kenyon comes in at 4 based on winning pct and RVR.

College Soccer Observer

This will be a shock to Enmore Cat and other that I am defending Amherst, but keep in mind that per Nescac league rules, their teams are only allowed 15 regular season games where other teams can play up to 18. Wins are therefor always going to be down for Nescac teams vs other top squads unless they run the table.