D3 Playoffs

Started by Fatherof4, November 04, 2022, 03:01:00 PM

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Fatherof4

Hello to all. I'm a new member with little to no understanding of how teams are chosen for the playoffs. If there's already a thread that explains the process, can someone point me to it. If not, can someone explain it to me? I apologize in advance for my ignorance. Also, how are the playoff opponents chosen? Thank you in advance.


Fatherof4


wally_wabash

Our 2021 projected bracket article will also walk through the round-by-round process of selecting the at-large teams and would be a good resource for getting a feel for how the process works. 

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If we assign the unranked teams a value of Tied for 41st (41 points) in the November 13th Top 25 poll, then the Trinity TX bracket (lower right quadrant) is the toughest by far.

Lower right (Trinity) 116 points
Upper right (NCC) - 204 points
Upper left (SJU) - 160 points
Lower left (UMU) - 170 points

The Trinity quadrant has #3, #5, #6, #9, #13, #15, #20 and unranked Pomona-Pitzer

Ralph Turner

NCC has #10, #19, #22, RV29, and three unranked teams. They should be well-rested

SJU has #7, #8, #12, #23, #25, RV 40 and one unranked team.

UMU has #11, #14, #16, #17, RV T32, RV T37 and one unranked team

sjujohnnie

Seems as if the quadrant that St John's lands in always has a harder path than Mount Union or the other quadrants.

Etchglow

Quote from: sjujohnnie on November 13, 2022, 10:24:49 PM
Seems as if the quadrant that St John's lands in always has a harder path than Mount Union or the other quadrants.

Seems like they're in the second most loaded if you look at poll rankings.  The Island quadrant is, as usual, insanely top loaded.

bleedpurple

Quote from: Etchglow on November 13, 2022, 10:41:40 PM
Quote from: sjujohnnie on November 13, 2022, 10:24:49 PM
Seems as if the quadrant that St John's lands in always has a harder path than Mount Union or the other quadrants.

Seems like they're in the second most loaded if you look at poll rankings.  The Island quadrant is, as usual, insanely top loaded.

I agree that the most loaded is the Island.  However, I believe the SJU quadrant is far more difficult than the Mount Union quadrant than the numbers in the poll suggests.

kiko

Quote from: bleedpurple on November 13, 2022, 10:47:32 PM
Quote from: Etchglow on November 13, 2022, 10:41:40 PM
Quote from: sjujohnnie on November 13, 2022, 10:24:49 PM
Seems as if the quadrant that St John's lands in always has a harder path than Mount Union or the other quadrants.

Seems like they're in the second most loaded if you look at poll rankings.  The Island quadrant is, as usual, insanely top loaded.

I agree that the most loaded is the Island.  However, I believe the SJU quadrant is far more difficult than the Mount Union quadrant than the numbers in the poll suggests.

I agree with this, and when the first two matchups were posted, had to remind myself of how, generally speaking, the level of opponent ramps up big time in the second round unless you get sent East.

Toby Taff

Quote from: kiko on November 14, 2022, 01:30:33 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 13, 2022, 10:47:32 PM
Quote from: Etchglow on November 13, 2022, 10:41:40 PM
Quote from: sjujohnnie on November 13, 2022, 10:24:49 PM
Seems as if the quadrant that St John's lands in always has a harder path than Mount Union or the other quadrants.

Seems like they're in the second most loaded if you look at poll rankings.  The Island quadrant is, as usual, insanely top loaded.

I agree that the most loaded is the Island.  However, I believe the SJU quadrant is far more difficult than the Mount Union quadrant than the numbers in the poll suggests.

I agree with this, and when the first two matchups were posted, had to remind myself of how, generally speaking, the level of opponent ramps up big time in the second round unless you get sent East.
For Texas and those west the road is always difficult!
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

desertcat1

Quote from: Toby Taff on November 14, 2022, 09:09:00 AM
Quote from: kiko on November 14, 2022, 01:30:33 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 13, 2022, 10:47:32 PM
Quote from: Etchglow on November 13, 2022, 10:41:40 PM
Quote from: sjujohnnie on November 13, 2022, 10:24:49 PM
Seems as if the quadrant that St John's lands in always has a harder path than Mount Union or the other quadrants.

Seems like they're in the second most loaded if you look at poll rankings.  The Island quadrant is, as usual, insanely top loaded.

I agree that the most loaded is the Island.  However, I believe the SJU quadrant is far more difficult than the Mount Union quadrant than the numbers in the poll suggests.

I agree with this, and when the first two matchups were posted, had to remind myself of how, generally speaking, the level of opponent ramps up big time in the second round unless you get sent East.
For Texas and those west the road is always difficult!

That's life TT,  ;D
But where's the chocolates?  :-*

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Toby Taff

Quote from: desertcat1 on November 14, 2022, 09:42:38 AM
Quote from: Toby Taff on November 14, 2022, 09:09:00 AM
Quote from: kiko on November 14, 2022, 01:30:33 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 13, 2022, 10:47:32 PM
Quote from: Etchglow on November 13, 2022, 10:41:40 PM
Quote from: sjujohnnie on November 13, 2022, 10:24:49 PM
Seems as if the quadrant that St John's lands in always has a harder path than Mount Union or the other quadrants.

Seems like they're in the second most loaded if you look at poll rankings.  The Island quadrant is, as usual, insanely top loaded.

I agree that the most loaded is the Island.  However, I believe the SJU quadrant is far more difficult than the Mount Union quadrant than the numbers in the poll suggests.

I agree with this, and when the first two matchups were posted, had to remind myself of how, generally speaking, the level of opponent ramps up big time in the second round unless you get sent East.
For Texas and those west the road is always difficult!

That's life TT,  ;D
But where's the chocolates?  :-*

No hill for a climber? Right? ::)    Zzz Island,
I honestly barely looked at the UMU Bracket, and expected what we got in the top left and bottom right. Coach Fred used to get on the news every year after selection Sunday and say something like, it's a tough bracket but you have to beat' em all to win it all so order doesn't matter much. All this does is give all of those young defensive guys tougher competition and makes them better for the next run.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

Captainred81

Warning:  Mount Fan!!! 

I'm not too surprised with the bracket this year, outside of Utica.  Not because they don't deserve it, or because some else deserves it more, they just weren't on my radar at all.  I think that spot would be King's if they would have won.  I don't think that King's makes the tourney better or worse but the same. 

My opinions:  I think Mount comes out of their quad.  Not because it's easy though, but I think they strap a set on and win.  Susquehanna has a lot to prove and is tested and should make it to round 2 and give Mount a game.  I think Dal. Val has shown some offensive burst in the last few weeks and they bring some game changing athletes.  Nobile seems to be a Div 1 type of player.  Even still I think Mount comes out on top.

I like UMHB in the lower right bracket.  I think beat Trinity after Huntingdon, but not sure who the next victim is.  Probably Linfield. 

North Central has a cake walk in the upper right.  Ithaca may challenge at first, but they're no match. 

In the upper left...nail biter between UWW and St. Johns, with Warhawks getting revenge.  UWL will make it interesting but ultimately fall short in Collegeville!!!

Any W.I.N is a B.F.D

colinsteinke

Quote from: Captainred81 on November 14, 2022, 04:29:25 PM
Warning:  Mount Fan!!! 

I'm not too surprised with the bracket this year, outside of Utica.  Not because they don't deserve it, or because some else deserves it more, they just weren't on my radar at all.  I think that spot would be King's if they would have won.  I don't think that King's makes the tourney better or worse but the same. 

My opinions:  I think Mount comes out of their quad.  Not because it's easy though, but I think they strap a set on and win.  Susquehanna has a lot to prove and is tested and should make it to round 2 and give Mount a game.  I think Dal. Val has shown some offensive burst in the last few weeks and they bring some game changing athletes.  Nobile seems to be a Div 1 type of player.  Even still I think Mount comes out on top.

I like UMHB in the lower right bracket.  I think beat Trinity after Huntingdon, but not sure who the next victim is.  Probably Linfield. 

North Central has a cake walk in the upper right.  Ithaca may challenge at first, but they're no match. 

In the upper left...nail biter between UWW and St. Johns, with Warhawks getting revenge.  UWL will make it interesting but ultimately fall short in Collegeville!!!

I am hoping that UWW is still embarrassed about how they didn't show up at SJU week one...and take it out on them for a trip to the Semis.

The question will be then, can UMU put up points against UWW's defense?