Big Dance 2022 - Let's Go!

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Saint of Old

Quote from: NEsoccerfan on November 17, 2022, 03:34:03 PM
This will be Amherst's 12th straight sweet 16. With Messiah bowing out early this year, is that the longest current streak?
That would have been the longest streak whether or not Messiah had bowed out early.


NEsoccerfan

Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 17, 2022, 03:51:56 PM
Quote from: NEsoccerfan on November 17, 2022, 03:47:56 PM
Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 17, 2022, 03:44:36 PM
Amherst: https://youtu.be/WeLaTE2O0iA

That's the only one I've seen because it was posted on another thread, which prompted me to point out their 12th straight sweet 16 :-)

Yeah, scanning around and not finding others... Very few teams put together highlight packages.

https://www.stevensducks.tv/

You can go there and get the entire game On Demand... Pretty easy just to spot-watch to see the goals and the PKs.

Same deal here for Catholic-Chris Newport: https://www.cnusports.com/watch/?Archive=723&type=Archive

Thanks a bunch. Just watched the Stevens equalizer in slow motion about 5 times in a row and while I can't say with 100% certainty, that did NOT look like a goal to me. 

Hopkins92

Quote from: NEsoccerfan on November 17, 2022, 04:46:53 PM
Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 17, 2022, 03:51:56 PM
Quote from: NEsoccerfan on November 17, 2022, 03:47:56 PM
Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 17, 2022, 03:44:36 PM
Amherst: https://youtu.be/WeLaTE2O0iA

That's the only one I've seen because it was posted on another thread, which prompted me to point out their 12th straight sweet 16 :-)

Yeah, scanning around and not finding others... Very few teams put together highlight packages.

https://www.stevensducks.tv/

You can go there and get the entire game On Demand... Pretty easy just to spot-watch to see the goals and the PKs.

Same deal here for Catholic-Chris Newport: https://www.cnusports.com/watch/?Archive=723&type=Archive

Thanks a bunch. Just watched the Stevens equalizer in slow motion about 5 times in a row and while I can't say with 100% certainty, that did NOT look like a goal to me.

Samesies. Also the same opinion of the Mighty Ducks fan that posted about it in real-time, as well.

We talked about luck earlier in the week... Prime example.

SierraFD3soccer

Quote from: NEsoccerfan on November 17, 2022, 04:46:53 PM
Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 17, 2022, 03:51:56 PM
Quote from: NEsoccerfan on November 17, 2022, 03:47:56 PM
Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 17, 2022, 03:44:36 PM
Amherst: https://youtu.be/WeLaTE2O0iA

That's the only one I've seen because it was posted on another thread, which prompted me to point out their 12th straight sweet 16 :-)

Yeah, scanning around and not finding others... Very few teams put together highlight packages.

https://www.stevensducks.tv/

You can go there and get the entire game On Demand... Pretty easy just to spot-watch to see the goals and the PKs.

Same deal here for Catholic-Chris Newport: https://www.cnusports.com/watch/?Archive=723&type=Archive

Thanks a bunch. Just watched the Stevens equalizer in slow motion about 5 times in a row and while I can't say with 100% certainty, that did NOT look like a goal to me.

Agreed, definitely not especially on turf. Ball has to go all the way over the line. AR on the far side could see that to call it as well.

SimpleCoach

Quote from: SierraFD3soccer on November 17, 2022, 07:04:30 PM
Quote from: NEsoccerfan on November 17, 2022, 04:46:53 PM
Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 17, 2022, 03:51:56 PM
Quote from: NEsoccerfan on November 17, 2022, 03:47:56 PM
Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 17, 2022, 03:44:36 PM
Amherst: https://youtu.be/WeLaTE2O0iA

That's the only one I've seen because it was posted on another thread, which prompted me to point out their 12th straight sweet 16 :-)

Just because I haven't seen anyone suggest it was a goal, two observations.  First off, the linesman was in the perfect spot to judge.  Just making that observation because he was not out of position, not deferring to his wisdom on the call. Just giving him props for being where he was supposed to be.

Second, when the ball comes across, the wheel that helps move the goals, is right outside the near post.  Am wondering if it doest hit the post then hit the tire to come back out.  That's the only thing I can logically see happening that would explain how that ball came back out of the goal the way it did.

Yeah, scanning around and not finding others... Very few teams put together highlight packages.

https://www.stevensducks.tv/

You can go there and get the entire game On Demand... Pretty easy just to spot-watch to see the goals and the PKs.

Same deal here for Catholic-Chris Newport: https://www.cnusports.com/watch/?Archive=723&type=Archive

Thanks a bunch. Just watched the Stevens equalizer in slow motion about 5 times in a row and while I can't say with 100% certainty, that did NOT look like a goal to me.

Agreed, definitely not especially on turf. Ball has to go all the way over the line. AR on the far side could see that to call it as well.

First off, credit to the linesman who was where he was supposed to be.  Whether he made the right call no idea.

Second, am wondering if it is possible that the ball cam across the goal mouth and hit the post and that tire that sits on the outside of the goal.  Only reason I say that is because the angle at which the ball came back out seemed odd to me.

But outside of that, no idea.

SC.

Ejay

Quote from: SimpleCoach on November 17, 2022, 07:24:22 PM
First off, credit to the linesman who was where he was supposed to be.  Whether he made the right call no idea.

While the linesman was even with the last defender, he was still about 8 years off the end line.  I don't think he's in a position to clearly see if the whole of the ball crossed the whole of the line.

Hopkins92

Yeah, but I think SC has a point... Kind of alluded to by those watching that night... The ball coming back out like that didn't really seem "natural."  Anyhoo... Tis what it Tis.

GKForverr1

Fun first post! I was on site for the Williams Messiah game and I think you all would be interested to know.....

Just prior to the Messiah group
Being pulled away for the interview post game....the Williams team and fans were surrounding coach Siebert and could be heard yelling "we F——ed them" we F—-ed them up" repeatedly.

Prior to the game as the Williams players entered the facility they also yelled similar statements "let's F—— them up" etc.

Some middle school children near me looked around like did we just hear what I think we heard? This wasn't just an in the huddle moment only heard by the team. This was heard by anyone within 100 yards of the field.

So between that and the 18 fouls Saturday and 17 Sunday...I was not impressed.

A huge credit to the Williams keeper for his play. He was tremendous. Many solid defensive efforts that were legit by the team.....but the cumulative foul count and disgusting language...lacked the sportsmanship that NCAA experience is supposed to have.

I love a good physical game...played shoulder to shoulder. When your strategy is to cut people down to break up the game...what has the game become? I think college soccer has gotten uglier over the years as more teams lean into fouling to foul and not a foul as a result of a genuine effort to win the ball in a tough honest 1v1 battle.

I hope whoever wins it all plays straight up!

Another Mom


Saint of Old

Quote from: GKForverr1 on November 18, 2022, 02:11:43 PM
Fun first post! I was on site for the Williams Messiah game and I think you all would be interested to know.....

Just prior to the Messiah group
Being pulled away for the interview post game....the Williams team and fans were surrounding coach Siebert and could be heard yelling "we F——ed them" we F—-ed them up" repeatedly.

Prior to the game as the Williams players entered the facility they also yelled similar statements "let's F—— them up" etc.

Some middle school children near me looked around like did we just hear what I think we heard? This wasn't just an in the huddle moment only heard by the team. This was heard by anyone within 100 yards of the field.

So between that and the 18 fouls Saturday and 17 Sunday...I was not impressed.

A huge credit to the Williams keeper for his play. He was tremendous. Many solid defensive efforts that were legit by the team.....but the cumulative foul count and disgusting language...lacked the sportsmanship that NCAA experience is supposed to have.

I love a good physical game...played shoulder to shoulder. When your strategy is to cut people down to break up the game...what has the game become? I think college soccer has gotten uglier over the years as more teams lean into fouling to foul and not a foul as a result of a genuine effort to win the ball in a tough honest 1v1 battle.

I hope whoever wins it all plays straight up!
There are many risks to playing good football man.
Ironically Williams has a reputation of playing the game the right way. They do have the benefit of playing in NESCAC which means they have the ability and experience to adjust their style due to having to do so during the regular conference season.
Messiah have always played good football and in NY humble opinion the right way. Watching my Saints play Amherst last week, I had similar feelings, but Amherst has a team of Ballers. They are technical and have good control despite being physical. Their patterns are not as sophisticated as SLU and I guess Messiah, but that means improvement is needed  from teams who play football on the ground and a passing game.
I think it is frustrating to lose to a team that are not as pleasing on the eye as your team, but in tournaments like this/D1/WorldCup/ChampionsLeague... Teams have to find a way to win.
NESCAC deserves to be where they are, because they have atleast 6 teams who play differently in the conference (Tufts/Amherst/Williams etc) while the rest of the country sees a different type of football only at Tourney time.

I won't mention bad  luck having to do anything with Messiah losing, since there are guys who will 2 foot tackle you on the boards if u raise that possibility.


SimpleCoach

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Quote from: SimpleCoach on November 17, 2022, 07:24:22 PM
Quote from: SierraFD3soccer on November 17, 2022, 07:04:30 PM
Quote from: NEsoccerfan on November 17, 2022, 04:46:53 PM
Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 17, 2022, 03:51:56 PM
Quote from: NEsoccerfan on November 17, 2022, 03:47:56 PM
Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 17, 2022, 03:44:36 PM
Amherst: https://youtu.be/WeLaTE2O0iA

That's the only one I've seen because it was posted on another thread, which prompted me to point out their 12th straight sweet 16 :-)

Just because I haven't seen anyone suggest it was a goal, two observations.  First off, the linesman was in the perfect spot to judge.  Just making that observation because he was not out of position, not deferring to his wisdom on the call. Just giving him props for being where he was supposed to be.

Second, when the ball comes across, the wheel that helps move the goals, is right outside the near post.  Am wondering if it doest hit the post then hit the tire to come back out.  That's the only thing I can logically see happening that would explain how that ball came back out of the goal the way it did.

Yeah, scanning around and not finding others... Very few teams put together highlight packages.

https://www.stevensducks.tv/

You can go there and get the entire game On Demand... Pretty easy just to spot-watch to see the goals and the PKs.

Same deal here for Catholic-Chris Newport: https://www.cnusports.com/watch/?Archive=723&type=Archive

Thanks a bunch. Just watched the Stevens equalizer in slow motion about 5 times in a row and while I can't say with 100% certainty, that did NOT look like a goal to me.

Agreed, definitely not especially on turf. Ball has to go all the way over the line. AR on the far side could see that to call it as well.

First off, credit to the linesman who was where he was supposed to be.  Whether he made the right call no idea.

Second, am wondering if it is possible that the ball cam across the goal mouth and hit the post and that tire that sits on the outside of the goal.  Only reason I say that is because the angle at which the ball came back out seemed odd to me.

But outside of that, no idea.

SC.

Ok.  Because this is sort of driving me nuts.  I took this snapshot of the game film.  I am wondering if the ball had a spin on the ball off the first post that went in then out? 

Best shot from the angle where it looks like a goal...

Would have put the picture on here, but honestly have no clue how to do that.  I tried the whole [img] thing, but alas, I am still a Kodachrome sort of guy.

PaulNewman


Sat 19 | Day
29°
35%
WSW 21 mph
Cloudy and becoming windy with snow showers in the morning. High 29F. Winds WSW at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of snow 40%. Winds could occasionally gust over 40 mph.

That's Chicago. 

Gambier not a lot better with high topping out at 30 and 10-20 mph winds, and Sunday topping out around 25.

Amherst and Hoboken look downright balmy, sneaking into low 40s with minimal wind.

Yankeesoccerdad

Quote from: PaulNewman on November 18, 2022, 05:52:36 PM

Sat 19 | Day
29°
35%
WSW 21 mph
Cloudy and becoming windy with snow showers in the morning. High 29F. Winds WSW at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of snow 40%. Winds could occasionally gust over 40 mph.

That's Chicago. 

Gambier not a lot better with high topping out at 30 and 10-20 mph winds, and Sunday topping out around 25.

Amherst and Hoboken look downright balmy, sneaking into low 40s with minimal wind.

My rule of thumb is that standing on a soccer sideline for two hours is always 10 degrees colder than the posted weather, unless you are in the sun.  I thought Amherst would be cold, but looks like we got lucky!

PaulNewman

Quote from: Yankeesoccerdad on November 18, 2022, 06:27:48 PM
Quote from: PaulNewman on November 18, 2022, 05:52:36 PM

Sat 19 | Day
29°
35%
WSW 21 mph
Cloudy and becoming windy with snow showers in the morning. High 29F. Winds WSW at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of snow 40%. Winds could occasionally gust over 40 mph.

That's Chicago. 

Gambier not a lot better with high topping out at 30 and 10-20 mph winds, and Sunday topping out around 25.

Amherst and Hoboken look downright balmy, sneaking into low 40s with minimal wind.

My rule of thumb is that standing on a soccer sideline for two hours is always 10 degrees colder than the posted weather, unless you are in the sun.  I thought Amherst would be cold, but looks like we got lucky!

You'll definitely feel cold...just not frigid like the Midwest sites.  I always find that the feet are the worst...and hardest to combat no matter what you do.

camosfan

IF you drive to the game all you need should be in your car

toe warmers
blanket
two different coats
lined shoes
lined pants
and don't go to the top tier of those open stands.