Big Dance 2022 - Let's Go!

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Hopkins92

Quote from: Ejay on November 07, 2022, 02:19:54 PM
There are some really juicy potential second round games!
St Lawrence/Amherst
Mary Washington/OWU
Kenyon/Calvin
Stevens/Middlebury
North Park/ Ohio Northern

Yes, though, the Ohio Wesleyan v. PSU-H first round game is another one of my circled first round match-ups. PSU-H is a sleeper to do some damage in that bracket... Though I don't see either team beating Kenyon, they will both be a handful.

EnmoreCat

Is there seeding in this and if so, is it done on regional rankings? And not knowing the geography all that well, at what stage could teams have to travel long distances, i.e. fly for a game?

Coach Jeff

Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 07, 2022, 02:36:17 PM
Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 07, 2022, 02:02:59 PM
UAA with 4 teams, and 3 of them in the same "region" of the bracket... Weird.

As mentioned elsewhere, NESCAC with the "expected" 5 teams, many of us shaking heads over 6 win Williams getting in over a very good Montclair St. team.

Also, like the UAA, they have placed 3 of the NESCAC teams in the same "region." Just shows you they aren't messing with the same type of subjective or, I dunno how to characterize it, but say in the D1 basketball where they get all wrapped up in trying to spread out the teams within a conference.

Looks like IMO that they are wanting to make sure there is a NESCAC team in the final 4.  That way they can still say that it is the best league.  Just my thoughts... :)

MNBob

It'll be a pleasant drop into the low 30s in the upper midwest this weekend for those hosting.

MNBob

Quote from: EnmoreCat on November 07, 2022, 03:09:44 PM
Is there seeding in this and if so, is it done on regional rankings? And not knowing the geography all that well, at what stage could teams have to travel long distances, i.e. fly for a game?
The team listed first for each game is considered the favorite, higher seed, right?

Kuiper

Quote from: EnmoreCat on November 07, 2022, 03:09:44 PM
Is there seeding in this and if so, is it done on regional rankings? And not knowing the geography all that well, at what stage could teams have to travel long distances, i.e. fly for a game?

I expect there will be teams flying to games in Round 1.  Willamette has to travel to the University of Chicago, which is 2,175 miles away and Pacific Lutheran has to travel to Mary Hardin-Baylor in Temple, Texas, which is 2,114 miles away.  Ironically, both would take around 32 hours without traffic to drive according to Google maps. 

Chapman is much closer to Mary Hardin-Baylor at 1,373 miles, but I suspect they aren't taking a 20 hour bus ride there.


futbolfan

Another reason NESCAC might say they are the best league is their 40-4-11 out of conference record this year, and the fact they had 4 teams make the ncaas last year (out of 11, while uaa and CC had 5), and all 4 went to at least the Elite 8, losing only to each other.

jknezek

Quote from: Kuiper on November 07, 2022, 03:21:24 PM
Quote from: EnmoreCat on November 07, 2022, 03:09:44 PM
Is there seeding in this and if so, is it done on regional rankings? And not knowing the geography all that well, at what stage could teams have to travel long distances, i.e. fly for a game?

I expect there will be teams flying to games in Round 1.  Willamette has to travel to the University of Chicago, which is 2,175 miles away and Pacific Lutheran has to travel to Mary Hardin-Baylor in Temple, Texas, which is 2,114 miles away.  Ironically, both would take around 32 hours without traffic to drive according to Google maps. 

Chapman is much closer to Mary Hardin-Baylor at 1,373 miles, but I suspect they aren't taking a 20 hour bus ride there.

Rule is either 500 or 600 miles. I don't know if they went back to 500. But regardless, if you are farther than that according to the NCAA TES calculator, you fly.

oacalum

Does anyone know the list of schools in the tournament this year that do not play on Sundays?

Hopkins92

Quote from: futbolfan on November 07, 2022, 03:25:50 PM
Another reason NESCAC might say they are the best league is their 40-4-11 out of conference record this year, and the fact they had 4 teams make the ncaas last year (out of 11, while uaa and CC had 5), and all 4 went to at least the Elite 8, losing only to each other.

Yeah, I made a comparison to the SEC at the beginning of the season.

It might annoy a lot of us, but the numbers don't lie. Someone else made another very compelling argument on their dominance int tournament itself (w-l record is pretty stunning the last... 6-7 years?)

Kuiper

Quote from: jknezek on November 07, 2022, 03:27:43 PM
Quote from: Kuiper on November 07, 2022, 03:21:24 PM
Quote from: EnmoreCat on November 07, 2022, 03:09:44 PM
Is there seeding in this and if so, is it done on regional rankings? And not knowing the geography all that well, at what stage could teams have to travel long distances, i.e. fly for a game?

I expect there will be teams flying to games in Round 1.  Willamette has to travel to the University of Chicago, which is 2,175 miles away and Pacific Lutheran has to travel to Mary Hardin-Baylor in Temple, Texas, which is 2,114 miles away.  Ironically, both would take around 32 hours without traffic to drive according to Google maps. 

Chapman is much closer to Mary Hardin-Baylor at 1,373 miles, but I suspect they aren't taking a 20 hour bus ride there.

Rule is either 500 or 600 miles. I don't know if they went back to 500. But regardless, if you are farther than that according to the NCAA TES calculator, you fly.

That means Birmingham Southern will also be flying to University of Chicago.

MNBob

Quote from: oacalum on November 07, 2022, 03:28:28 PM
Does anyone know the list of schools in the tournament this year that do not play on Sundays?

Games times are slowly filling in on the bracket. Right now the only bracket that plays Friday/Saturday is the Kenyon bracket.

d4_Pace


Looks like IMO that they are wanting to make sure there is a NESCAC team in the final 4.  That way they can still say that it is the best league.  Just my thoughts... :)
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At this point there is just no credible argument to be made against the NESCAC being the best conference in the country.

College Soccer Observer

Quote from: MNBob on November 07, 2022, 03:39:09 PM
Quote from: oacalum on November 07, 2022, 03:28:28 PM
Does anyone know the list of schools in the tournament this year that do not play on Sundays?

Games times are slowly filling in on the bracket. Right now the only bracket that plays Friday/Saturday is the Kenyon bracket.

Greenville and Calvin are both no Sunday play schools.  All other brackets are Sat-Sun.

EnmoreCat

Thanks for the insights.  I know the focus here has been on who gets in, but it seems a little strange to my Antipodean brain to have regions and at least not have a more regional flavour to the first and maybe second rounds, even combining adjacent  regions for that purpose. Anyway, will move on, lots of interesting match ups to ponder over.  I hadn't really known much about Husson until a few hours ago, but am fast approaching world expert status.