2023 NCAA Tournament

[Gregory Sager]

Oswego is very athletic defensively, Sparks, Anderson, Green are all tough matchups, with their length and quickness.

Nice win for the Lakers.  Congrats to Coach Leone and his charges.  Toughest possible environment and they came away with the W and ended a 63 game home court win streak.

I'm thinking that this is the biggest win for a SUNYAC team since Welsh left Potsdam for Iona. Your thoughts on that topic?

Oh, and I can't be the only central New York product who thinks that the RMC broadcaster's constant pronunciation of the Lakers' school as "Ozz-WAY-go State" is the play-by-play equivalent of fingernails on a blackboard.

[SpringSt7]

In D1 basketball, all but 1 of the national champions since 2002 have had a combined KenPom adjusted offensive and adjusted defensive efficiency that adds up to less than 50, i.e, the 1st ranked offense and the 48th ranked defense, or the 24th ranked offense and the 25th ranked defense.

I took Matt Snyder's rankings and applied the same thing to this year's field---offense is listed first, followed by defense, and then sorted by the total:

1. Oswego St. 3-6-9
2. Randolph Macon 8-2-10
3. St. Joseph's CT 13-1-14
4. Christopher Newport 4-18-22
5. Keene St. 18-11-29
6. Hampden-Sydney 10-21-31
7. Johns Hopkins 32-3-35
8. Williams 16-20-36
9. Swarthmore 7-42-49
10. UW Oshkosh 37-12-49
11. Mount Union 17-33-50

Note: Guilford (45-4-49) would have met the criteria if they made the tournament.

Checking in on this: 9 of the 11 teams listed advanced to the Sweet 16, which is the maximum number as Christopher Newport and Hampden-Sydney played against each other and so too did Williams and St. Joe's.

These took a big hit yesterday with St. Joe's and Johns Hopkins falling to teams that did not meet the criteria but there is a chance that all four regional champions come from this list today, although it could also just be 1, the winner of Oshkosh and Mount Union.

[thebear]

Oswego is very athletic defensively, Sparks, Anderson, Green are all tough matchups, with their length and quickness.

Nice win for the Lakers.  Congrats to Coach Leone and his charges.  Toughest possible environment and they came away with the W and ended a 63 game home court win streak.

I'm thinking that this is the biggest win for a SUNYAC team since Welsh left Potsdam for Iona. Your thoughts on that topic?

Oh, and I can't be the only central New York product who thinks that the RMC broadcaster's constant pronunciation of the Lakers' school as "Ozz-WAY-go State" is the play-by-play equivalent of fingernails on a blackboard.

Potsdam coached by Sherry Dobbs - had a win over unbeaten & #3 St. John Fisher in 2005 at this same spot in the tournament [Sweet Sixteen] but couldn't get past eventual #2 Rochester to get to the final four.

That was on a Neutral court [in a snowstorm], as Amherst was hosting 3 NY schools. 

The Laker's win last night on RMC's home court, adds quite a few degree of difficulty points.

I think Curle's Plattsburgh teams and at least one [either Leone or Broderick's] Oswego team also played in the Sweet Sixteen, but did not advance. 

Oswego last night, played their starters far more than they normally do, only 21 minutes off the bench. 

They average 60 minutes from the bench for the season, so we shall see if that maximum effort last night impacts their play tonight.

No SUNYAC team has made the Final Four since the undefeated 1986 Potsdam team.

My brother in law is an Oswego native, he says Oz-wego. 

[sac]

Whitewater
Swarthmore
Christopher-Newport
Mt. Union

[SpringSt7]

Not the be all and end all, and Newport certainly got close last year, but have to feel good for 3 teams---Mount Union, Christopher Newport, and Swarthmore getting to the Final Four after both being two wins away in 2020

[TheOsprey]

Mount Union vs UW-Whitewater in the Final Four. Now where have I seen that before?

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Teams that made both the men and women tournaments:

Babson                    M: Pool A, L (n) Utica 72-60;                    W: Pool C, W vs ME Maritime 69-44
                                                                                                            W vs SUNY New Paltz 76-66
                                                                                                            W vs Marietta 73-59
                                                                                                            L vs Rhode Island College 47-60


Chris Newport       M: Pool A, W (n) Farmingdale St 61-60;     W: Pool A, W vs Brooklyn 89-52
                                             W @ Hampden-Sydney 72-59;                   W vs Elizabethtown 66-55
                                             W vs Mary Hardin-Baylor 72-60;                 W (n) Wartburg 60-51
                                             W vs Wheaton 76-70;                                W @ Tufts 72-56
                                                (n) Swarthmore                                      (n) Rhode Island College
Emory                     M: Pool C, L @ Hampden-Sydney 59-63;     W: Pool C, L (n) Millikin 70-76

Hope                     M: Pool A, W (n) Bethany Lutheran 79-65;  W: Pool A, W vs St Norbert 82-61
                                              L @ UW-Oshkosh 50-51;                           L vs Wartburg 67-81

Johns Hopkins         M: Pool C, W vs Mitchell 89-71;                  W: Pool C, L (n) Skidmore 59-62
                                             W vs Hamilton 81-71
                                              L (n) UW-Whitewater 82-83 OT

La Roche                 M: Pool A, L @ Stockton 70-86;                  W: Pool A, L @ Ithaca 42-58

Mary Washington     M: Pool C, W (n) St Lawrence 69-42;          W: Pool C, W (n) Roger Williams 69-60
                                              L @ Stockton 65-68;                                 W @ DeSales 75-69
                                                                                                             L @ Smith 65-68 OT


Marymount              M: Pool A, L @ Oswego St 62-80;               W: Pool A, L (n) St John Fisher 72-80

Mitchell                   M: Pool A, L @ Johns Hopkins 71-89;          W: Pool A, L @ DeSales 60-78

NYU                        M: Pool C, L (n) Lancaster Bible 64-67;       W: Pool A, W (n) Greensboro 71-54
                                                                                                             W @ Messiah 62-41
                                                                                                             W (n) Trine 66-49
                                                                                                             L @ Transylvania 63-79

Rowan                     M: Pool A, W vs Cal Lutheran 83-77;          W: Pool A, L (n) RI College 59-67
                                              W vs Utica 83-72
                                               L (n) UW-Oshkosh 72-91

Scranton                  M: Pool A, W (n) NC Wesleyan 65-64;        W: Pool A, W vs St Joseph's (ME) 64-45
                                               L @ Randolph-Macon 41-63;                     L vs Rhode Island College 55-62

St John Fisher         M: Pool A, W (n) Whitworth 74-59;            W: Pool A, W (n) Marymount 80-72
                                               L @ Swarthmore 78-101;                          L @ Smith 64-65

St Norbert               M: Pool A, W (n) Carleton 81-77;                W: Pool A, L @ Hope 61-82
                                              L @ Wheaton 71-75

Tufts                       M: Pool C, W (n) Widener 78-66;                W: Pool A, W vs Merchant Marine 72-57
                                              L @ Keene St 72-77;                                 W vs Skidmore 59-50
                                                                                                             W vs Trinity (TX) 65-52
                                                                                                              L vs Chris Newport 56-72

UW-Oshkosh           M: Pool C, W vs Fontbonne 86-58;              W: Pool C, W (n) Wash & Lee 58-55
                                             W vs Hope 51-50;                                      L @ Ohio Northern 60-71
                                             W (n) Rowan 91-72
                                             L @ Mount Union 67-78

UW-Whitewater    M: Pool A, W (n) Wabash 90-83;                 W: Pool A, W vs Webster 69-50
                                             W @ Case Western Reserve 78-75;              W vs Gustavus Adolphus 68-63   
                                             W (n) Johns Hopkins 83-82 OT;                    L (n) Trinity (CT) 56-63
                                             W (n) Oswego St 77-74
                                                 (n) Mount Union
WashU                    M: Pool C, W vs Coe 69-48;                         W: Pool C, L (n) Trine 69-79
                                              L vs North Park 69-72

18 made both fields
2 still have teams playing
6 men advanced farther
4 women advanced farther
7 lost same round


Interestingly, both Mary Washington teams were eliminated by a score of 68-65.

[y_jack_lok]

Mount Union vs UW-Whitewater in the Final Four. Now where have I seen that before?

A different sport, of course.

But the Swarthmore/CNU semi-final is a repeat from 2019.

[SpringSt7]

If Oshkosh hadn't lost to Mount Union, Swat could've had a chance to go Nichols-Newport-Oshkosh in their last 3 games just like they did in 2019.

[TheOsprey]

Mount Union vs UW-Whitewater in the Final Four. Now where have I seen that before?

A different sport, of course.

But the Swarthmore/CNU semi-final is a repeat from 2019.

I like this semi-final better--  clearly fascinating.  Swat really had no business winning, but they found a way.  The other sport at this level is too (yawning)... predictable.

[Greek Tragedy]

Saw parts of 2 entertaining semi finals last night. Apparently CNU wanted Swarthmore to win as they missed 4 FTs in a row to keep Swarthmore within 3. Swarthmore said, "Thanks, but no thanks, you can play in the Naty." and missed two game-tying 3s at the end.

Whitewater blew a late 20-pt 1st half lead to lose to Mount Union, despite the Purple Raiders shooting 1-18 from 3. The Warhawks were very charitable at the line, going 16-28, because they felt bad that Mount Union was missing so many 3s.

[CNU85]

Just read the D3hoops piece on the game tomorrow. Who is Trey Nelson? 

[SpringSt7]

In D1 basketball, all but 1 of the national champions since 2002 have had a combined KenPom adjusted offensive and adjusted defensive efficiency that adds up to less than 50, i.e, the 1st ranked offense and the 48th ranked defense, or the 24th ranked offense and the 25th ranked defense.

I took Matt Snyder's rankings and applied the same thing to this year's field---offense is listed first, followed by defense, and then sorted by the total:

1. Oswego St. 3-6-9
2. Randolph Macon 8-2-10
3. St. Joseph's CT 13-1-14
4. Christopher Newport 4-18-22
5. Keene St. 18-11-29
6. Hampden-Sydney 10-21-31
7. Johns Hopkins 32-3-35
8. Williams 16-20-36
9. Swarthmore 7-42-49
10. UW Oshkosh 37-12-49
11. Mount Union 17-33-50

Note: Guilford (45-4-49) would have met the criteria if they made the tournament.

Bingo

[CNU85]

Just read the D3hoops piece on the game tomorrow. Who is Trey Nelson? 

Thanks for fixing that! 

[SpringSt7]

Omg