2023 D3 Men's Soccer National Perspective

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Nsno9

Calvin finish off Hope 3-1, scoreline flatters the Knights. Hope made things very uncomfortable, forcing Wunder into several saves including a PK stop with 2 minutes left. Calvin struck early in the second half with a goal from Schau after a neat interchange with Akintade, and scored their third via an PK with 3 seconds left, won and scored by Akintade.

Calvin have the hallmarks of a solid defensive team, with tall and experienced CBs and GK, but all have mistakes in them that have come back to bite the Knights on several occasions so far this year. They also don't have the solidity in the midfield to provide a shield for the back line, which means further chances for opposition. Scoring goals has not been a problem, and they certainly have potential to make a run towards the end of the year, but defense in the tournament is crucial when you need to tough out a result.

PaulNewman

Quickest goal in NCAA history?  VWU scored directly off the opening kickoff against Roanoke and 2 seconds went off the clock.

SierraFD3soccer

Quote from: PaulNewman on October 08, 2023, 10:34:13 AM
Quickest goal in NCAA history?  VWU scored directly off the opening kickoff against Roanoke and 2 seconds went off the clock.

Probably so. Unfortunately and of course, the camera person was asleep at the wheel or he was still in the portopotty. No actually footage.  Going to guess, like the long throw, everybody going try.

https://boxcast.tv/view/vwu-mens-soccer-vs-roanoke-college-zf44fxcm80fny9rqxh3b

OldNed

Quote from: PaulNewman on October 08, 2023, 10:34:13 AM
Quickest goal in NCAA history?  VWU scored directly off the opening kickoff against Roanoke and 2 seconds went off the clock.

As luck would have it, I was just looking at the D3 soccer record book regarding Niko Giantsopoulus and the post you made yesterday.  Xavier Carty from Johnson & Wales is in the record book for scoring in 3 seconds vs. Norwich, I'm pretty sure in 2015. 

Kuiper

#709
This Texas Lutheran - St. Thomas game has been chaos.  2-1 TLU on a PK, but not before a brawl and two red cards, including one on the TLU keeper who came all the way from his goal to the St. Thomas goal to head butt a defender as part of the brawl.  Buckle up for the ending to this one.

Update - chaos continues as a St. Thomas player picks up a second yellow and it's 10 on 9 with a timeout called because another brawl is brewing (and a player is injured)

Stream is now stopped.  Not sure if there is a bad injury or something like that. 

FINAL St Thomas 3 - Texas Lutheran 2

Craziest game I've seen in a long while.  After a 20 minute delay because an injury to a TLU player on a breakaway in the box, which led to the stream being stopped while the player was taken to the hospital, the game resumed.  The ref gave a red card to the UST defender for the foul (leaving them down 10 men to 8) and awarded TLU a pk.  The PK was hit over the bar and the UST had life, but barely.  The extra space of the field seemed to help UST though and they scored two goals at the 88:58 and 89:22 marks (the second of which on a free kick that resulted in a second yellow to a TLU player) dropping them to 9 players).

TLU with their first loss of the season and some bad injuries and red cards, while UST may have saved it's season (but certainly didn't look good doing so)

PaulNewman

OMG.  Have never seen anything like that in 13 years.  UMass-Boston vs Haverford the closest.  St Thomas down to 8 men with TLU at 10, down 2-1, under 2 minutes.  Win 3-2. 

Kuiper, take it away.....

SimpleCoach

Quote from: PaulNewman on October 08, 2023, 07:05:23 PM
OMG.  Have never seen anything like that in 13 years.  UMass-Boston vs Haverford the closest.  St Thomas down to 8 men with TLU at 10, down 2-1, under 2 minutes.  Win 3-2. 

Kuiper, take it away.....
I am not convinced that was a goal.... tried like 63 times to see if at what point it fully crosses the line.  The only conceivable place is if it bounced at the inside of the post and spun out?

PaulNewman

Quote from: SimpleCoach on October 08, 2023, 07:08:10 PM
Quote from: PaulNewman on October 08, 2023, 07:05:23 PM
OMG.  Have never seen anything like that in 13 years.  UMass-Boston vs Haverford the closest.  St Thomas down to 8 men with TLU at 10, down 2-1, under 2 minutes.  Win 3-2. 

Kuiper, take it away.....
I am not convinced that was a goal.... tried like 63 times to see if at what point it fully crosses the line.  The only conceivable place is if it bounced at the inside of the post and spun out?

I know.  I couldn't tell.  But even if it had ended 2-2 that would have been amazing.  St Thomas completely melted down and season was in jeopardy.  Already had a guy out today for red card in last game and now 3 more.  TLU melts down in last 2 minutes.  I mean, TLU gave up a free kick right at the top of 18 while up 10 men to 8 and without that we aren't even talking about the goal.

Kuiper

I posted more as an update on my post up thread, but I'll add that I think the camera operator got a red card too toward the end of the game, but at least it remained fixed on the TLU goal. I think the last goal either spun in and out or a TLU player helped it out, but our angle was far from ideal and my stream was fuzzy already.

Either way, I'll stick to my story that going down several men with Aleman and Castro still on the pitch was better for UST because it created space.  Also, if there was one player TLU could not lose it was their GK Peña.  He lost his mind running all the way down the field to head butt a player.  His backup was not up to this moment (not that this was his fault - the two extra TLU players should have been able to protect the goal!). 

PaulNewman

Kuiper, I think that last red on TLU was for a violent swing/shove or he got yellow for the foul and then another for the aggression.

Still cannot believe TLU gave up that free kick in that spot.

TLU backup GK is gonna need serious trauma debriefing.  He was inconsolable and may have fractured his hand hitting the post.

Freddyfud

Quote from: Kuiper on October 08, 2023, 06:13:53 PM
The ref gave a red card to the UST defender for the foul (leaving them down 10 men to 8) and awarded TLU a pk.
How was that not double jeopardy?  Did he not make a play on the ball?  Or given everything else in the game maybe a second yellow?

Sounds like the game was nuts.  Hope no one was hurt.

Kuiper

Quote from: PaulNewman on October 08, 2023, 07:29:45 PM
Kuiper, I think that last red on TLU was for a violent swing/shove or he got yellow for the foul and then another for the aggression.

Still cannot believe TLU gave up that free kick in that spot.

TLU backup GK is gonna need serious trauma debriefing.  He was inconsolable and may have fractured his hand hitting the post.

The commentator said it was a second yellow, but it didn't matter in the moment (although might later if there is a bigger suspension involved), but I totally agree about the foul and the backup GK.  I saw him hit the post too - he's a big boy who probably hit it hard too.  To put my comments about the backup GK in context, that's a Freshman replacing a Senior in that situation.  He had only played the last 6 minutes and 39 seconds of a 4-0 win thus far this year and that's it for his college experience.  I'm sure he's great in training, but he probably was still trying to get his heart rate down from the run into the field and had very little warmup most likely.  This one is going to haunt him.

GenerallyInterested

Quote from: Kuiper on October 08, 2023, 08:05:44 PM
Quote from: PaulNewman on October 08, 2023, 07:29:45 PM
Kuiper, I think that last red on TLU was for a violent swing/shove or he got yellow for the foul and then another for the aggression.

Still cannot believe TLU gave up that free kick in that spot.

TLU backup GK is gonna need serious trauma debriefing.  He was inconsolable and may have fractured his hand hitting the post.

The commentator said it was a second yellow, but it didn't matter in the moment (although might later if there is a bigger suspension involved), but I totally agree about the foul and the backup GK.  I saw him hit the post too - he's a big boy who probably hit it hard too.  To put my comments about the backup GK in context, that's a Freshman replacing a Senior in that situation.  He had only played the last 6 minutes and 39 seconds of a 4-0 win thus far this year and that's it for his college experience.  I'm sure he's great in training, but he probably was still trying to get his heart rate down from the run into the field and had very little warmup most likely.  This one is going to haunt him.

Young GK put in a tough spot, but no excuse for hitting and kicking the goalposts the way he did.  granted  - I think every kid on that field was probably out of sorts after (and during) that game....never seen anything like it.  Not sure if the referee managed it well either.  I think both teams will need some serious debriefing after that one.  The injury looked really bad for the TLU player - went back and looked at it a few times - direct contact to his ankle....afraid a bad break at minimum.....best wishes to him

Gregory Sager

What a truly weird game that was. The fact that the cameraman basically abandoned his post in the last minute and a half of the contest made it even weirder.

Quote from: PaulNewman on October 08, 2023, 07:29:45 PM
Kuiper, I think that last red on TLU was for a violent swing/shove or he got yellow for the foul and then another for the aggression.

He got a yellow for that foul, after having already been booked in the first half, so he went off for a double yellow. It doesn't appear in the box score, though; the official scorer clearly had a hard time keeping up with the avalanche of bookings.

I'm with the UST PBP guy. The CR wasn't blowing his whistle early in a very chippy game, and then as it got even rougher he overcompensated and got card-happy. Funny thing is, he would've missed the head-butt by Peña altogether if one of the ARs hadn't come over to inform the CR of it.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

PaulNewman

Quote from: Gregory Sager on October 08, 2023, 11:08:14 PM
What a truly weird game that was. The fact that the cameraman basically abandoned his post in the last minute and a half of the contest made it even weirder.

Quote from: PaulNewman on October 08, 2023, 07:29:45 PM
Kuiper, I think that last red on TLU was for a violent swing/shove or he got yellow for the foul and then another for the aggression.

He got a yellow for that foul, after having already been booked in the first half, so he went off for a double yellow. It doesn't appear in the box score, though; the official scorer clearly had a hard time keeping up with the avalanche of bookings.

I'm with the UST PBP guy. The CR wasn't blowing his whistle early in a very chippy game, and then as it got even rougher he overcompensated and got card-happy. Funny thing is, he would've missed the head-butt by Peña altogether if one of the ARs hadn't come over to inform the CR of it.

I'm sure you guys are right but there is no question that the TLU player swung and hit a STU player in the face, and the ref immediately reacted and a handful of folks ran onto the field to get him off and to separate everyone.