NPI Rankings 2024

[paclassic89]

https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_rankings/nitty_gritties/39211

The long awaited NPI ranks are out. At first glance, York at 16 stood out to me as an outlier compared to something like Massey.  NESCAC has 5 out of the top 10 teams

[Kuiper]

https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_rankings/nitty_gritties/39211

The long awaited NPI ranks are out. At first glance, York at 16 stood out to me as an outlier compared to something like Massey.  NESCAC has 5 out of the top 10 teams

Adrian at 17 is probably the poster child for NPI prioritizing wins  -- any wins -- over strength-of-schedule.  They are 9-0, but most of their opponents have been really sketchy (e.g., NAIA teams like 1-10-1 Siena Heights, 0-12 Defiance, and 1-7-2 Rochester Christian, and NCCAA teams like 1-7-1 Kuyper).  Those non-NCAA opponents don't count for NPI, meaning that they have a 3-0 record against 2-3-2 Wittenberg, 6-4-1 Wooster, and 2-7-1 Earlham.  Nice turnaround for Adrian from a 1-13-2 record last season, but it's not like they are suddenly one of the top 17 teams in the country.  If that's all it takes, then everyone can schedule non-NCAA cupcakes from the bargain bin at the Dollar Store's bankruptcy liquidation sale and then play a few middling teams.  You still need to meet the 10 win minimum for it to matter if you don't have the AQ, but it makes a mockery of the rankings.

[SierraFD3soccer]

Very interesting.

[EnmoreCat]

Apologies and I know I should have read the fine print on this earlier, will this order of merit determine seeding? And if you don't get the AQ, but are ranked in the 18 best of the rest (assuming my count of 46 D3 conferences is accurate), will that get you in.

Kuiper, I'm looking at you 😁.

[stlawus]

Some of these results are really whacky but I won't put too much stock just yet, as the NPI index for teams 14 through the 130s is separated by 4 points.  A lot of movement yet to be had.

[stlawus]

Apologies and I know I should have read the fine print on this earlier, will this order of merit determine seeding? And if you don't get the AQ, but are ranked in the 18 best of the rest (assuming my count of 46 D3 conferences is accurate), will that get you in.

Kuiper, I'm looking at you 😁.

There are 42 conferences and 22 at-large bids this season.

[EnmoreCat]

Clearly I can't count, thanks StLawUS.

[Kuiper]

Apologies and I know I should have read the fine print on this earlier, will this order of merit determine seeding? And if you don't get the AQ, but are ranked in the 18 best of the rest (assuming my count of 46 D3 conferences is accurate), will that get you in.

Kuiper, I'm looking at you 😁.

You mean you didn't pore over every word of every post and linked document/podcast in the NCAA Rule Change on Tournament Selection Criteria thread I started?!   

Seeding is determined by the NPI rankings at season's end.  They also approved a 2-year waiver of the 500 mile rule to avoid top seeds facing each other in the early games, so that makes seeding somewhat more important than under the old rules, but they also confirmed that seeding is considered, but still not determinative in who hosts, which theoretically cuts the other way.

[EnmoreCat]

As tempting as it was, I was waiting for the Brodie's Notes version.  Do appreciate you clarifying.

[Crossit4fun]

NPI ranking determines the at large bids into NCAA tournamemt AFTER the ACQ.

NPI for each team will change every week as most current results are factored in.

ACQ over rules NPI Rank then NPI

[wihsuafs24]

https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_rankings/nitty_gritties/39211

The long awaited NPI ranks are out. At first glance, York at 16 stood out to me as an outlier compared to something like Massey.  NESCAC has 5 out of the top 10 teams

Not questioning the data itself, but is this an official NCAA website? There's no (obvious) link to it from ncaa.com and I'd think the RPI rankings would be published openly/directly under "rankings"...?

[Crossit4fun]

The NCAA had stated they would appear in several areas on the website under the Rankings ribbon was one of them. I would give it a week or two to see if they add it.

They all mentioned a first posting in mid October so they beat that by a week.

[wihsuafs24]

Yeah - I guess I expected it to be a drop-down option on ncaa.com as it is for DI. (Plus the "nitty_gritties" part of the thread threw me...)

[Ron Boerger]

According to the 2024-25 NCAA prechampionship manual, the first regional rankings isn't due out until October 23rd.  Yesterday (October 8) a regional advisory committees training call should have been held, with the first regional mock ranking to be held October 15th followed by a national mock ranking the following day.  Given that, it's not surprising that the NCAA website hasn't been updated with a link to this information.

Those interested will also find the dials to be used this season in calculating the men's soccer NPI:

• Winning percentage/SOS:  15%/85% ("SOS" means the average of opponents' NPI)
• Home/Away Win/Loss: 1/1 (meaning you gain no more advantage from a road win than a home win)
• Quality Win Base:  54.0 (meaning a win against an opponent with an NPI > 54 is a "quality win")
• QWB multiplier:  .750 (subtract 54 from your opponent's NPI, multiply by .75, the result is your bonus)
• Minimum wins: 10.0

The dials for women's soccer are slightly different; variances are

• WP/SOS:  20/80
• QWB multiplier:  .500
• Minimum wins:  8.0

[EnmoreCat]

I had a quick re-read of the original NCAA advice and think I know the answer to this, but will check my comprehension.  Do post-season conference games get taken into account for the calcs, or do they only provide the AQ and the rankings cut off at regular season end?