NCAA TOURNAMENT 2024

[SimpleCoach]

A terrible way to decide a semifinal. 

SC.

[Newenglander]

There's technically been VAR all season it's just been up to the host institution's discretion.

got it - watched it a lot of games across conferences - didn't see it once

[Little Giant 89]

Next game at nine eastern?

Is it too much to hope that they put some water down on that "turf" before the second match, or would that just result in mud?

[Hopkins92]

Absolutely wild that VAR has been in the mix all season. I think many would be in my camp of never once hearing that mentioned either on a broadcast or on this board of fairly knowledgeable folks.

Wild.

[Kuiper]

Absolutely wild that VAR has been in the mix all season. I think many would be in my camp of never once hearing that mentioned either on a broadcast or on this board of fairly knowledgeable folks.

Wild.

I said it was put in place this year, but it was actually started last season as an experimental rule and than expanded for this season. 

The experimental rule was in 2023 and a conference had to adopt the rule to allow it and to collect data.  Back in 2016, they had previously allowed Video Review for goals, cards, and to identify participants in a fight.  I think it was almost exlusively used for fights because no one had goal line cameras.  The experimental year last year allowed called PKs, red cards, and DOGSO calls.

https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/soccer/rules/2023PRMWSO_ExperimentalRule.pdf

Experimental Rule: In advance of the 2023 soccer season, this correspondence is to make you
aware that the Men's and Women's Soccer Rules Committee plans to consider and study potential
rules changes involving expanded use of video review.

In an effort to obtain data and feedback, the Men's and Women's Soccer Rules Committee and
Playing Rules Oversight Panel are allowing any Division I, II or III conference to experiment during
regular season conference games and/or the conference tournament with expanded use of video
review, including called penalty kicks, red cards and denial of an obvious goal-scoring opportunity
situations, and to allow an assistant referee to assist the referee during video review.

Any conference interested in experimenting must submit the request in writing to Rich Grady
(ncaasoccersre@gmail.com) by June 1, 2023. Conferences granted permission to experiment are
required to collect data and submit it to the rules committee at the end of the season. The full
details of the experimental rule, including specific reviewable situations and data collection points,
are available below.

For 2024, they expanded video review, allowing everyone to do it if the referee determined that the video review equipment was available and in working condition.  They also expanded it to cover PKs not called (obviously at issue in the Amherst-Midd game), and a bunch of other things detailed below.  Most schools didn't have the video review equipment available in DIII as far as I know.  It was used in DI, although you can see they emphasize that it is encouraged at all levels. 

https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/soccer/rules/2024PRXSO_PointsofEmphasis.pdf

Video Review Expanded. After the successful implementation of an experimental rule
last season, video review has been expanded this year to include penalty kicks (whether
called or not called on the field), direct red card situations (whether issued or not on the
field), determining the proper decision in situations involving stopping a promising attack
or denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity and determining whether a goal should
be disallowed for an offside offense. Furthermore, it is emphasized that the use of video
review is encouraged for Divisions I, II and III of NCAA Soccer. The referee will meet with
game administration staff at least 30 minutes before kickoff to confirm if video review
equipment is available and that the equipment is in good working order.

[nescac1]

Is there any video of the PK call?  Very curious to see. 

[Dustin_Patrón]

Can't believe the center ref didn't use the second VAR as an opportunity to correct his mistake.

If it takes 5+ minutes of reviewing the video both times, how do we end up with two different verdicts.

Well played by both teams. It's a shame this center ref decided the game today.

Can see why PN doesn't like the FF.

[SKUD]

Yes, they replayed it 10 x

[GKForverr1]

Link shows both VAR moments

Imo gross game for a multitude of reasons. Hope this next one is better on the eyes

[Hopkins92]

kuiper, with all due respect (and I'll do this again - when I say that I mean it, you are legend on this board) a lot of stuff that gets posted in the rule changes thread gets pretty tedious and quite often over-looked.

But, more to the point, has anyone seen a regular season or up to this point NCAA tournament game where VAR gets trotted out??

Either it's part of the game or it's not. Bringing it in at the Final Four stage, in my opinion, is not the correct course.

[Bucket]

Can't believe the center ref didn't use the second VAR as an opportunity to correct his mistake.

If it takes 5+ minutes of reviewing the video both times, how do we end up with two different verdicts.

Well played by both teams. It's a shame this center ref decided the game today.

Can see why PN doesn't like the FF.

Correct. Neither was called on the field, neither warranted a call.

But if one was overturned based on video, then both should have. They were the same play. Obviously, neither should have been overturned.

Utterly egregious on the part of the center official.

[SKUD]

A terrible way to decide a semifinal. 

SC.

I think a more horrible way to decide a semi would be to ignore VAR and not review a foul in the box.

[Hopkins92]

I would also add, I only got to see the last 5 minutes live, which is why I'm not getting into the specific calls.

Hats off to both team for sportsmanship after the game. I think just about every player found every single guy on the other side to dap up.

Good to see after a weekend in college football where everyone thought waving a flag around was a reason to instigate a massive brawl.

[Bucket]

A terrible way to decide a semifinal. 

SC.

I think a more horrible way to decide a semi would be to ignore VAR and not review a foul in the box.

Did you watch the video? Neither was a foul in the box. And neither was called on the field.

I don't care about using VAR. But be competent if you're going to use it and overturn what was not called on the field.

And that penalty call was utterly incompetent.

[paclassic89]

kuiper, with all due respect (and I'll do this again - when I say that I mean it, you are legend on this board) a lot of stuff that gets posted in the rule changes thread gets pretty tedious and quite often over-looked.

But, more to the point, has anyone seen a regular season or up to this point NCAA tournament game where VAR gets trotted out??

Either it's part of the game or it's not. Bringing it in at the Final Four stage, in my opinion, is not the correct course.

The Kenyon vs Denison NCAC semifinals had a PK overturned after VAR