MBB: Little East

MeOak21 · January 16, 2007, 03:21:29 PM

Oh, thanks. I hadn't checked that out

PressBreaker · January 16, 2007, 03:25:05 PM

Ok...so now RIC is ranked 22 and KSC ranked 24....who is voting? You are correct that what happend six weeks ago might not be important now BUT.........it should be considered until they play again. I have NEVER seen a poll where two teams have an identical record, and played each other and the team that won that head to head match up be ranked lower than the losing team.

Maybe we need some new voters. This is an easy one! KSC #22 and RIC # 24...Simple

PressBreaker · January 16, 2007, 03:46:49 PM

With all due respect....HEAD TO HEAD counts more than anything. That strenght of schedule stuff goes out the door on that one. They didn't beat Keene, no matter who they played head to head is ALWAYS the FIRST tie breaker. In ANY tie breaking system.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · January 16, 2007, 03:50:59 PM

OK. I don't totally agree with you, but I do feel that if you include schedule and level of play, that should still equal RIC being ahead. That's what's so odd to me.

It's not about the criteria they use to evaluate. I'm just wondering what people thought and we're never going to know. That's why it's a discussion.

MeOak21 · January 16, 2007, 04:10:52 PM

Well, after this week it will be much easier for voters to distinguish whether KSC or RIC is the better team. Tonight we have RIC vs. WCSU and KSC vs. ECSU. The top four teams in the LEC facing off in a conference that is known for eating itself alive. Should be a lot of fun to watch...

Pat Coleman · January 16, 2007, 05:28:01 PM

One of our voters noticed the discussion about teams with similar records and head-to-head results and sent along this comparison from the D-I coaches' poll:

#1 Florida is 16-2 with a loss to Kansas
#5 Kansas is 15-2 with a win over Flordia
#2 UCLA is 15-1 with a loss to Oregon
#10 Oregon is 16-1 with a win over UCLA

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · January 17, 2007, 09:04:13 AM

Keene is now 13-2 with a loss to Eastern Connecticut.

MeOak21 · January 17, 2007, 10:00:15 AM

Come on Keene, why do you have to do that to me?

RIC crushes WCSU 85-61.

PressBreaker · January 17, 2007, 10:06:49 AM

Pat, I saw the note you put up about the poll results, I can see where your point stands however, in this case it should not have been ranked that way...the game against Iona shouldn't count as it was an exhibition. It looks as thought the point is long gone since KSC lost to Eastern Conn. last night. It did make for good discussion.

Out of curiosity, who does vote?

MeOak21 · January 17, 2007, 10:12:30 AM

PressBreaker- I basically asked the same question not long ago. Hoops pointed me in the direction of the FAQ. Follow this link http://www.d3hoops.com/faq.php
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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · January 17, 2007, 12:07:33 PM

Quote from: PressBreaker on January 17, 2007, 10:06:49 AM
Out of curiosity, who does vote?

Again it's on the site FAQ. Three voters from each of the eight regions and Pat. Voters are Coaches, SIDs and Media.

PressBreaker · January 17, 2007, 01:23:17 PM

Thanks Hoops Fan....if a media outlet wanted to get voting priviliages how would they go about that?

Pat Coleman · January 17, 2007, 01:35:01 PM

Spots in the poll turn over on occasion, a few a year. We'd have to know who you are, you'd have to cover Division III on a regular basis and we'd have to have some reason to believe you can reasonably evaluate the national scene.

PressBreaker · January 17, 2007, 03:38:17 PM

Thanks Pat, I appreciate the info. I'll pass it on to the appropriate people. There is an internet broadcast company who I feel might be good to involve.

MeOak21 · January 17, 2007, 04:52:53 PM

Any predictions for what will happen in the poll next week if Keene beats RIC this weekend?

Will it pull them both out of the Top 25. I guess that would be my prediction