MBB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Toph]

They'll probably lose by 30 now.

By the way, with one upset over a DI opponent already in the books, will Carroll do the same tonight?

[Mr. Ypsi]

They'll probably lose by 30 now.

By the way, with one upset over a DI opponent already in the books, will Carroll do the same tonight?

Toph, sorry to pick on you, but I already called out Pat Coleman on this, so feel honored!

UPS winning was NOT an upset.  We should get over this mindset that ANY d3 win over ANY d1 team is an upset!  UPS was BETTER than bottom-dweller Riverside!  In fact, Riverside is so bad that  ANY d3 team worthy of top 25 consideration should beat them.

By objective standards, IWU should be favored over nearly 50% of d1 teams.

We (collective 'we') have a sense that d1 is AUTOMATICALLY better than d2, and d3 is AUTOMATICALLY worse than d1 or d2.  Folks, it AIN'T true!  On AVERAGE, of course it is true - IWU is not about to beat Duke.  But IWU would beat quite a few d1s (including Illinois State, one mile up the road, if they had the guts to play us), and there are MANY d3s who would be favored over many d2s, and some d3s who would be favored over some d1s.

[Pat Coleman]

Since the average annual D3/D1 record is about 1-43, we should be happy for what we get and play it up when we can.

[jdean]

They'll probably lose by 30 now.

By the way, with one upset over a DI opponent already in the books, will Carroll do the same tonight?

I see JCU lost a heartbreaker to Cleve St. I think they've decided to save all their energy for the 1-18-06 showdown!

[Toph]

JCU shot the ball terribly, but were only down 11 at half.  The strangest thing was that they were getting open looks, the shots just weren't falling.  Cleveland State was able to outmuscle the much smaller Streaks. 

[Toph]

Congrats to BW beating Wooster!  Unfortunately JCU couldn't pull off the upset as well.

[jdean]

Congrats to BW beating Wooster! 

Its amazing that Wooster almost pulled off a huge upset.

Getting back to the real world, Mount is showing great improvement--they lost their first game by 20 but it took OT to lose the 2nd game by ten. The good news for Mount is the schedule lightens up this week---They get BW Weds night.

[johnworms]

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Nice win by Otterbein tonight. Down 48-35 at the half to Ohio Weslyan, they continued to chip away and finally took the lead with about 90 seconds left. Final score was 84-78, but it was essentially a one-possesion game. Fifth straight "o-club Classic" championship and their overall record now stands at 5-6 after winning three of their last four.

[Toph]

Happy New Year to all.  Can't wait to get the OAC schedule started again.

[Toph]

How about Wilmington taking down ONU at home?

[jdean]

Mount beat one of the best teams from Tiffin today. They led by ten a good part of the game. The Berg made a run at them and brought it down to 4 but Mount held on and made some foul shoots. Karpinski dominated the 1H with 19 but the guards did their part in the 2H.

[ScotsFan]

How about Wilmington taking down ONU at home?

How about Wilmington taking down BW in Berea?  The Quakers have quietly come on as this week's OAC frontrunners.  Just when it looked like BW was going to run away with the OAC, Wilmington pulled a "Not so fast, my friend!"     I guess we can add the Quakers to the list of quality teams in the GL Region.  I had mentioned this on the MIAA board on how this region is as deep as I can remember.  I don't know how you would rank these teams, but for now here would be my GL Regional rankings:

1. Hope
2. Albion
3. Wittenberg
4. Wooster
5. Wilmington
6. B-W
7. CMU
8. ONU
9. JCU

This is just my opinion on how these teams stack up, but nonetheless, that is a pretty impressive list of teams. 

[Ralph Turner]

OAC Baseball Message Board is up!

Join us!

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4198.0

(I am looking for a volunteer to help with the OAC board.)

[devossed]

How about Wilmington taking down ONU at home?

How about Wilmington taking down BW in Berea?  The Quakers have quietly come on as this week's OAC frontrunners.  Just when it looked like BW was going to run away with the OAC, Wilmington pulled a "Not so fast, my friend!"     I guess we can add the Quakers to the list of quality teams in the GL Region.  I had mentioned this on the MIAA board on how this region is as deep as I can remember.  I don't know how you would rank these teams, but for now here would be my GL Regional rankings:

1. Hope
2. Albion
3. Wittenberg
4. Wooster
5. Wilmington
6. B-W
7. CMU
8. ONU
9. JCU

This is just my opinion on how these teams stack up, but nonetheless, that is a pretty impressive list of teams. 

I think it's about as accurate as you can be at this point--though as others have said you can take the top 1-4 and draw them out of a hat and be pretty close too...

[Toph]

I am a little surprised that Wilmington beat BW, but everyone around the OAC always likes to say that its the best conference top to bottom. 

As for the SF regional rankings, I'd say it's pretty accurate, but I think the margin of separtion between the top 4 OAC schools is minimal.  Look at the losses of BW, ONU, Wilmington, and JCU:

BW:
Losses to Albion and Wilmington

ONU:
Losses to BW, Wittenberg, and Wilmington

Wilmington:
Loss to JCU

JCU:
Losses to Rochester, ONU, Cleveland State, and Hope

So far, that looks like a pretty strong strength of schedule (and I haven't even pointed out the wins against top opponents).  Should be a good one at the DeCarlo Varsity Center tomorrow!