FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

hey pak!!

go to the oac board:  the video of Bwater's semifinal win with the local clock operator is posted for all to see.

just imagine if it was your team on "D" that day.  Think ya still would be pissed.

NOW, ALL CAN SEE THE TRUTH!!        Oh yeah!!  GO PROFS!!

Umm, not sure when the OAC board posted "the play" ... but I had it on my web site for about eight months (Dec. 6, 2004 to whenever www.poopaw.com stopped working).

"When time stood still" was voted the #4 play in the BC Top 25 plays ... with the one-yard TD that followed as the #1 play.

If www.poopaw.com ever starts working again, you'll be able to view those two plays as many times as you want.  We (BC fans) have nothing to hide.

http://www.bridgewaterfootball.com/top25plays2.html

[seventiesraider]

Thats ok kid, I really never want to see that Brian Ratliff 59 yard TD catch from the Stagg Bowl again

[hasanova]

Olinemom - I watched a rerun of Jim Valvano's 1993 ESPY speech between the two Jimmy V Foundation basketball games last night.  Basically, he said we wouldn't win a basketball (or football) game every day, but we could laugh every day!  With that in mind, we decided to expand the horizons of the site - football is a religous experience, isn't it?  I've been to games at Clemson, Tennessee and Ohio State, and they sure think it is!

     I love that speech by Jimmy V.  God took a great away WAY TOO SOON. Do you remember the delight on his face when that imporrible, improbable shot fell in and they won the big dance?  It was pure magic!!!

     I just lost a long post about my love for footbal and baseball.  It is just not my day!  I set the clock this morning for 6am to make some brownies for the Eagle club tonight and only woke up at 8:35 am, barely making it to my 9:00 class.  Needless to say the brownies didn't get made.Oh well . . . But to sum it all up. I LOVE FOOTBALL!!  but I think you have already noticed that.  One doesn't make 14 pans of brownies every Sunday for Film day on Monday  after traveling wherever the game has been that weekend and not love hte game and the players!. 
     
     And I love baseball, college baseball at any rate.  I have made a bunch of trips to Georgia and California with my baseball team.  Last year we went to Fullerton to see them play, but it rained and we got to see Oklahoma or somebody else.  It wasn't such a good game.  I supported UVa in the spring--they had a great spring!! You know, one of their players, Ryan Zimmerman, was on their team in the spring and by September was in a Washington Nationals uniform.  And the Nats just traded away Castillo (or whatever his name was)so they made room to keep Ryan(he is a really nice guy!!)   I took them brownies too.  When I went to the ACC baseball tournament in Jacksonville, I took about 300 brownies to UVa, about the same amount to Florida State (Ilove Coach Martin and the guys!) and the same to Miami because we were to have 3 Miami players on our summer league team.  I was pretty popular that week.  It's always fun to cheer for good players and teams.  And the ACC has some great players.  I went down to Durham. NC or as I call it, JJ Land, (yeah, I'm guilty of being a Duke basketball fan!!  After all he's from Cave Springs in Va.  Same school as Tom Hagen who plays baseball at UVa--he's my favorite player at UVa. ) TEAM USA is stationed there and I had a fabulous time.  --Me and my brownies, we were again a hit.  I met all the players, some I knew already as they were from UVa, FSU and Miami.  But you name the great college player and he was there.  It was some great baseball!  They had autograph night both weekends and I got myself a shirt autographed and then I got a ball autographed for a friend of mine's son (he went to Hampden-Sydney so you know he had to be a real good friend) who absolutely lives and breathes baseball.  If you could have seen his face when I gave him that ball, it was priceless!!  A lot of fun too.  What is life if you can't make people happy? 

    I've promised to go to Tennessee this spring.  The UT catcher JJ Arecibia  and the guys from Miami (Chris Perez, John Jay, Andrew Lane, Eddie Roriguez) are all going to be playing there.  I can't wait  As to who to root for,  I usually have to root for whoever is batting , unless Chris(going in the first 5 rounds next June unless I miss my guess!) or Andrew is pitching. 

     I'm sure this is more than you wanted to read about my  loving sports.  But you know, maybe I can get Llamaguy to let us have Communion at the Stagg Bowl in honor of the team who will play against the  MUC / Rowan finalist.  Now that's a religious experience I can guarantee you would like!!

     Much as I hate to say it, it's back to the papers . . . please come to the Stagg Bowl.  It's great football and even better company.  Everybody I've met there has been really nice!!

Jimmy V lives on.  Not just for NC State fans, but for all of us.  When he stood in the middle of Reynolds Coliseum and said, "don't ever give up, don't ever give up," it sent a chill through me.  Often, in my day-to-day life, I have to remind myself how right he was.

Yes, I vividly remember the NCAA Championship game in '83.  I was sitting alone in my den in Durham and leaped to my feet and yelled at the top of my lungs.  I think I woke everyone in the neighborhood that had already gone to bed.  Houston was Phi Slamma Jamma, so State took the moniker Phi Packa Attacka.  lol  When the final shot went up, I thought it was an "air ball" miss - how stunned was I - and everyone else! - when Lorenzo Charles dunked it at the buzzer!  Who can ever forget Jim Valvano's frenzied, spontaneous dance around the floor at "The Pit" in New Mexico?  I certainly never will.

Sports are a metaphor for life - and every season brings the chance for rebirth (the '69 Mets).  Sports are for some the zenith of their life (John Updike's Run, Rabbit, Run), but for others only a springboard (Bill Bradley).  For many, sports allow us to live a more exciting life vicariously throught the exploits of others (all parents).  Sports give us a familial kinship that is key to the human experience ('80 USA Hockey Team).  Sports are, plainly, important, but without the people who fervently support them, are just exercise.

Not sure if I'll make the Stagg Bowl on the 17th, but I'll try.  It would be so nice to meet everyone with whom I've enjoyed talking on this board.  Save me a brownie ...    

[Rugby Guy]

I LOVE how Rowan keeps bring up the clock.  Cheating requires an intention to deceive.  Unless the clock operator intended it, it was a mistake.  He and God are the only two who will ever know about that.  Now, nobody will disagree that on THAT play..that ONE play of however many in the game were run, Rowan got screwed.  They didn't get screwed on the next play...the one that actually won the game.  As Mom and Llama have said, BC surely got screwed on Cruz's TD that wasn't given to him.  Why don't the Rowan fans complain about that?  Oh yeah...because their single-mindedness and  tunnel vision prohibit it.    There were 122 offensive plays that game, not one.

[pakownr97]

hey pak!!

go to the oac board:  the video of Bwater's semifinal win with the local clock operator is posted for all to see.

just imagine if it was your team on "D" that day.  Think ya still would be pissed.

NOW, ALL CAN SEE THE TRUTH!!        Oh yeah!!  GO PROFS!!

For any of you Rowan fans still here,  remember this.  It was our own "Kid" who brought the clock film to the authorities' attention.  If BC was a crooked program, no one outside of Bridgewater would have ever known.  Thanks for your integrity, Kid.



Umm, not sure when the OAC board posted "the play" ... but I had it on my web site for about eight months (Dec. 6, 2004 to whenever www.poopaw.com stopped working).

"When time stood still" was voted the #4 play in the BC Top 25 plays ... with the one-yard TD that followed as the #1 play.

If www.poopaw.com ever starts working again, you'll be able to view those two plays as many times as you want.  We (BC fans) have nothing to hide.

http://www.bridgewaterfootball.com/top25plays2.html

If any Rowan fans are still here, chew on this.  It was our own "Kid" who filmed the clock stoppage, and turned it over to BC, then NCAA officials.  If not for the integrity of one of Bridgewater's own, Rowan fans would never even know about it.

[Pat Coleman]

Well, they would probably still be complaining about it but without irrefutable evidence.

Let's put it this way -- I was 500 miles away listening on a laptop in Mount Union's press box and I knew there was something wrong.

[skoaltrain]

hey pak!!

go to the oac board:  the video of Bwater's semifinal win with the local clock operator is posted for all to see.

just imagine if it was your team on "D" that day.  Think ya still would be pissed.

NOW, ALL CAN SEE THE TRUTH!!        Oh yeah!!  GO PROFS!!

Umm, not sure when the OAC board posted "the play" ... but I had it on my web site for about eight months (Dec. 6, 2004 to whenever www.poopaw.com stopped working).

"When time stood still" was voted the #4 play in the BC Top 25 plays ... with the one-yard TD that followed as the #1 play.

If www.poopaw.com ever starts working again, you'll be able to view those two plays as many times as you want.  We (BC fans) have nothing to hide.

http://www.bridgewaterfootball.com/top25plays2.html

Thanks for the reminder Kid.  I know you and I chatted a while ago.  I need to get you some space.  How much do you need?  100MB?

[pakownr97]

Hey Kid,

Defending your honor just cost me a karma point.  You owe me one, LOL!

[Outsider14]

ah geez... it'll never go away. which i suppose it shouldn't. can you imagine if that had happened at the end of the penn state/michigan game this year? ah well. if the south can still relive the civil war and what might have been, than rowan can relive their 2001 championship that never was as long as they want. i feel their pain...

[Bwana]

I am a Lamar Neal fan even though I finished with an 85 in one of his classes and got a C even though I was #5 out of 50 among the students.
 I was in his classroom the day after the 1994 Contract with America elections and my friends gave him some grief.

I, too, am a Lamar fan...took numerous classes with him but fortunately never really got the sharp end of his sometimes capricious grading practices.  I asked above as while I was at BC he wore this terrible toupe, which I once got to see lifted off his head by a student at the late, lamented Elbow Room.   He started to not use the rug in my senior year, and sometime after I left he dumped the rug completely, but I am not clear when that was...

Well I've been here since 1983 and I never saw it.  Lamar was always sans toupé during my time at BC.  Lots of fun, I`ll have to agree there, especially at the ODAC baseball tournaments!!

Lamar started to voice some concerns about the rug while I was there, especially after his Atlanta run-in on the way back from Christmas 1980.

I distinctly remember as freshman being off campus having  a brew (beer age was 18 then) when another frosh went up to a large upper class football player and asked if Lamar wore a toupe.  The football player knew lamar used tape to hold it down-and the tape was fairly strong-so he says "Of course not!  If he did, could I do this?"...reaches over, puts his hand on top of lamar's head and the toupe, and lifts up.

What he didn't know was that Lamar apparently did not change the tape each day, and the player proceeded to life the toupe right off Lamar's head, tape stringing behind.

As  you might imagine, Lamar was none too happy.

[pakownr97]

Hey Kid,

Defending your honor just cost me a karma point.  You owe me one, LOL!

Nevermind,

My karma is taking a real beating anyway.  Must be some Rowan lurkers on here.  Anyway, they started it.

[Jeremybozz]

  Being right in front of the press box when "Time stood still" I have always suspected and will go to my grave with the belief that 3 or 4 umbrella's might have obscured Mac's view of the clock for whatever that is worth.
  Mac ran the clock for W&L and BC for many years with no problems and I just think his overall record gives him a leg to stand on when he defends his honesty.

[Olinemom]

hasanova,
     I think I can definitely save you a brownie.  I have heard something about  chicken, macaroni & cheese, brownies, etc. GCol has said something about coming up as well.  That would be a shot in the arm!

Saturday approaches.  Who will win the 2 semifinals? What say you?

[Jeremybozz]

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[hasanova]

hasanova,
     I think I can definitely save you a brownie.  I have heard something about  chicken, macaroni & cheese, brownies, etc. GCol has said something about coming up as well.  That would be a shot in the arm!

Saturday approaches.  Who will win the 2 semifinals? What say you?

Thanks.  All sounds good!  Wesley and Rowan have good teams, but I think the home field advantage, December weather and tradition all favor UW-W and Mt. Union.  What do you think?