FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

cave2bens · January 16, 2009, 02:48:03 PM

Quote from: SaintsFAN on January 16, 2009, 10:07:26 AM
Quote from: Adam Sayer on January 15, 2009, 01:43:25 PM

I'm betting the patience in Ann Arbor is less than South Bend. Notre Dame hasn't been good for a long time...maybe not necessarily this bad, but they haven't been top notch for years (and some idiot decided to give Charlie a 10-year deal).

The idiot that signed Weis to that deal in 2005 (for playing USC close in South Bend) is no longer the AD. Weis is literally on his last leg. Well, hopefully. Most times, coaches are gone before the AD but that 10 year added some security to his job.

The cynic in me also wonders if "image of Notre Dame" doesn't play a part? There was some racial insinuation resultant of Willingham's termination on several fronts. Now you've a coach, savvy in the art of lawsuits and litigation, who is also the "weight" behind the Hannah and Friends autism foundation. Potential publicity nightmares on the national stage because IT IS - Notre Dame.

should Charlie depart under less than congenial circumstances?

70_dc_alum · January 19, 2009, 10:08:31 PM

I know by now you have probably already seen the updates on the attached across the Sportcenter ticker on ESPN (s) today. BUT just in case you did not knwo and was wondering why it is relevant here is Martindale is a DC grad played/coached in the 80's. was also my D-coordinator in High School which is how me and my brother found DC.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3842703

I heard he was going to come back to his alma matter to look for a QB

cave2bens · January 21, 2009, 03:26:50 PM

Why DC70, you weren't enticed "on Top of the Hill" as a wee lad by the exploits of Northmont/DC running back Tommy Shaffner or my favorite Claytonite, Lynn Viets?

How soon the past is forgotten!

70_dc_alum · January 25, 2009, 09:09:48 AM

dont forget Von Cummings late 80s early 90s...probably the best RB to graduate from DC and another Northmont guy. last i heard he is in Prison for scamming money. they were going to put him in the Northmont HOF until they found his new "mailing address"

SaintsFAN · January 27, 2009, 08:57:18 AM

what is up in here?

Sayer, I know you've got a snow day today... I've got one too since my sled is terrible in the white stuff. I'm watching the news on TV and there is life proof of how bad the Cincinnati drivers are. They have webcams everywhere and there are cars off to the side of the road, SUVs traveling too fast and police lights.

Its amazing how scared Cincinnatians get of this "white death", and then drive like idiots to top it off.. hello, jergoff.. just because you have an SUV, doesn't mean you can't fly off the road.

One a good note: a lady friend wants me to go sledding with her tonight... that sounds like it should be great fun.

D3_DPUFan · January 27, 2009, 09:01:38 AM

For any Franklin fans out there...who will be the signal caller for the Grizzlies next season with Chad Rupp moving on? Any youngsters in the mix?

KYGrizzly · January 27, 2009, 01:58:59 PM

Thought I would post the link to where a high school football coach here in Louisville has been arraigned for the death of a player last summer.

Waiting to see how the outcome of this case changes high school football and coaching.

//http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20090127/NEWS01/901270403/1008

D3_DPUFan · January 27, 2009, 05:08:13 PM

QuoteThought I would post the link to where a high school football coach here in Louisville has been arraigned for the death of a player last summer.

Waiting to see how the outcome of this case changes high school football and coaching.

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20090127/NEWS01/901270403/1008

It's getting a tremendous amout of national attention....outome of the trial could obviously have enormous ramifications...what's the feeling about this coach? Good guy? The national media will sensationalize this so I don't put much stock in their reporting...no matter, very sad story indeed...

KYGrizzly · January 28, 2009, 09:49:11 AM

D3_DPUFan,

Since he has been coaching around this area in high school I have only heard good things about him. When this story first came out the father had nothing negative to say about the coach.

In response to your question as the QB situation at Franklin next year I have not heard anything. I still have four years of elgibilty left, you think they would be interested in a 52 year old who can't run or throw. But I do like to tailgate.

Adam Sayer · January 28, 2009, 07:10:35 PM

This was reported in Cincy a few days ago and the radio said the parents wern't filing the charges. The problem isn't the weather or the coaching styles...it's the kids who sit in their living rooms all summer in the Air Conditioning playing video games. They get out in August and try to play, and their bodies arn't used to the heat. If this was something the coach did, there would be more than 1 kid getting sick or overheating. This coach did nothing wrong. The most ubsetting thing is the charge is reckless homocide...as if the coach had intended this to happen. I heard no one ever did an autopsy. What's up with that? Maybe this kid had a health condition. There is no way in hell this guy can get in any trouble. If he does, then its a sad day for all coaches.

D3_DPUFan · January 28, 2009, 07:56:02 PM

QuoteD3_DPUFan,

Since he has been coaching around this area in high school I have only heard good things about him. When this story first came out the father had nothing negative to say about the coach.

In response to your question as the QB situation at Franklin next year I have not heard anything. I still have four years of elgibilty left, you think they would be interested in a 52 year old who can't run or throw. But I do like to tailgate.

Thanks for the info...hope the situation in Louisvile works out for everyone involved...tough story..

On the Franklin QB situation, I'm sure Coach Leonard has someone lined up who will throw for a million yards...in the Red Faught tradition..

I'm with you on the 4 years of eligibility...but I think I'm too valuable int he parking lot...grilling and drinking...

KYGrizzly · January 29, 2009, 08:27:10 AM

Adam,

I agree with you I from all the reports I hear that he has not done anything wrong. There was a similar football players death four years ago at another high school here in Louisville where their was no action taken. In this case the Grand Jury recommended a trial.

Word is that there is going to be a civil suit brought against the coach, so that has to be a family member filing that suit I would think.

SaintsFAN · January 29, 2009, 09:56:14 AM

Adam,

Sorry... but I have to do this.. I got your piece of mail the other day and as soon as I can... I'm scanning it into my computer... I've been needing a new picture on here. Call it being a proud older brother, if it makes you feel better!

zak66 · January 29, 2009, 10:31:17 AM

adam,

a kid passed out 15 minutes before the one who died. the kid who died was takeing a certain medication that can dehydrate you.

Adam Sayer · January 30, 2009, 04:16:22 PM

I stand corrected. If a problem did occur prior to the kid dying, then the coach needs to have some sense. Not necessarily stopping practice, but giving an extended water break or extra breaks, or giving the kids a break to change into shoulder pads and helmets instead of full gear. Still, a 94 degree heat index is hot, but it's not a situation that extra water and/or light equipment can't fix.

Even still, if the child was taking medication that causes dehydration, he needed to address the situation on his own. At some point, kids need to held accountable. You can't expect a coach to keep track of every child's personal need. If the child has asthma, the child needs to know to have an inhaler nearby, if a child needs extra water, he should have a water bottle nearby, etc. If he had requested this, and was denied, then I see the coach at fault.

It's sad, but coaches have been doing the same thing for 50+ years in August. The only thing that has changed is the physical conditioning of America's youth.

What may I ask was the medication for?